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Kaiser
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Posted - 2005.01.15 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kaiser on 15/01/2005 11:11:11
Rubra Libertas Militia is looking for sponsors to bring our war with FA in empire as well.
Our corp is made of 30-40 active players, all pvp players. Most of us are fighting since the game started. We are fighting FA since 8 months now.
Do you think regional alliances are against freedom?
Well, this is your chance to help us hurt one of them in empire as well.
Stop whining in forum how bad 0.0 alliances are, and help us killing FA in empire ! We are not against any alliance to be honest but who cares? FA is surely one of the biggest one so... 
Do you dislike FA for what they did to you or your corp? You were in Period Basis before they were taking over?
Well, we are here to fight them. With your contribution, we can fight them in empire as well.
Do you plan to invade FA? or FA is fighting you in your own region and you need to hurt them in empire as well?
Hire us then. we already killing FA for free in fountain.
Go figure what we could do in empire 
OOC
We are looking for serious sponsors to bring our war with FA on in empire.
People who know us know we are serious pvp players, and as a corp we are fairly strong and active.
In first 3 weeks after shiva, when war in empire was on, we killed countless ships of them.
If you don't like FA for any kind of reason and wonna hurt them, sponsor our war in empire (or just join us, but this is not recruitment msg, we do have that in recruitment folder).
If you know us you know you can be pretty sure they will bleed for that.
Btw, given NORAD are FA allies, we don't mind killing them as well in empire.
We aren't mercs, so we aren't asking overprice for our services.
we are asking just the cost to declare war to FA in empire. Given the fact we haven't started any war in empire so far, the cost should be pretty cheap.
I think any serious corp based in 0.0 can afford that without problem.
We post killmails in public website as well, so you can check our "results" as well.
Send me a msg or convo me ingame if interested.
You can spnsor us and still hiring mercs if you want more guys against FA.
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Kaiser
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Posted - 2005.01.15 11:21:00 -
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I posted in the wrong folder. Can a mod move it to the right one?
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Lucas Vicenzo
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Posted - 2005.01.15 12:39:00 -
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These guys are worth the cash, no doubt.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2005.01.15 12:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Lucas Vicenzo
These guys are worth the cash, no doubt.
Some might ask why pay Rubra Libertas Militia instead of some professional established mercs such as BDCI and FRICK who would be doing the job for you not for themselves?
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Ehhe
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Posted - 2005.01.15 13:00:00 -
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No offence, but who sane would sponsor rookies? Warping two battleships to enemy POS, can you spell unprofessional?
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Chris
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Posted - 2005.01.15 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ehhe
No offence, but who sane would sponsor rookies? Warping two battleships to enemy POS, can you spell unprofessional?
There are mercenary corporations that are up to the task, why hire pirates?
We aren't pirates, if we were we would be ransoming FA rather than just killing them 
As far as the warping to a POS goes I have no idea as I was offline at the time.
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Kaiser
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Posted - 2005.01.15 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ehhe
No offence, but who sane would sponsor rookies? Warping two battleships to enemy POS, can you spell unprofessional?
There are mercenary corporations that are up to the task, why hire pirates?
No offense, but why u don't post with your main?
1) we are not pirates. we fight only FA.
2) Since we post our kills, anyone can check our results and eventually retract sponsorship. Somehow, i think none will ever be disappointed 
3) Why us and not BDCI or others? who said they can't hire both?
We aren't mercs, we aren't charging bilions for contracts. We asking just for war cost.
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Lazlo Lawson
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Posted - 2005.01.15 14:42:00 -
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Okay forgive me because I haven't been playing Eve that long but the one thing I didn't see is WHY you're fighting FA. I'm just trying to get a grip on how eve politics work but so far it's damn confusing as to what the conflicts are about.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.01.15 14:57:00 -
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They originate from a group of people who were unhappy with how some corps got kicked out of FA a (long) while back during a reformation.
That should be a short enough version to avoid turning this thread into something that has potential of becoming nasty, so please dont go there ;)
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.01.15 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Velsharoon on 15/01/2005 17:59:46
You obviously dont hate them enough to finance your own war...
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Moonlight Express
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Posted - 2005.01.15 23:03:00 -
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Please give me some isk so that I can go have fun and shoot stuff. Whaaaaaaa! 
Sorry, but your mommy is not here to give you ice cream money. Get a job like everyone else, you bums.
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ElectroSister4
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Posted - 2005.01.15 23:25:00 -
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Yeah.. if i had lots of isk i would do it.. i know it would be worth it!
Hmm wonder why FA started flaming the thread so soon? Are they a little scared maybe? hmm 
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"Its better to burn out then to fade away" - Kurgan
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Lazlo Lawson
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Posted - 2005.01.15 23:40:00 -
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Ah okay, some old hatchet to bury. Reminds me of the Hatfields and McCoys :P. Are there a lot of conflicts like this throughout eve? "You podded my mom 16 months ago, DIE!!!"
I guess the next question is, if FA is an alliance in 0.0 space, why would Rubra Libertas need money to fight them in empire? Can't they just fly to their region to kill FA? Do FA hide in empire? And if that's true then how could they kick anyone out of a 0.0 area if they aren't there? This stuff is confusing  .
Forgive the ignorant questions, like I said, I'm just trying to learn.
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Kaiser
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Posted - 2005.01.16 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Velsharoon
Edited by: Velsharoon on 15/01/2005 17:59:46
You obviously dont hate them enough to finance your own war...
Well, actually we obviously do what we want. It shouldn't be your concern why we do or not do anything.
The thing we can afford fighting them doesn't mean we shouldn't look for sponsors.
Anyway, except the usual FA alts who start flaming, let's keep the thread clean.
The post wasn't flaming at all.
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.01.16 00:39:00 -
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Ask CORM.
I need my isk for my own war effort. Like someone said earlier, if you want to play, you have to put in the work yourself. No handouts here.
The truth will set you free
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2005.01.16 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lazlo Lawson
I guess the next question is, if FA is an alliance in 0.0 space, why would Rubra Libertas need money to fight them in empire? Can't they just fly to their region to kill FA?.
Because when you break open an FA ship in empire, it spits out candy like a piħata!
"Hey guys, look! 500 million ISK worth of megacyte!"
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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ZUDD
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Posted - 2005.01.16 06:22:00 -
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Edited by: ZUDD on 16/01/2005 06:23:56
All i have to say is: Look at www.eve-kills.com
We are in the top 10, all the ships killed by us are FA and friends. The other corps at the top kill a myriad of other people but we stick to the same kind of players instead of just random killings and still achieve a high level of results. After fighting the same people for almost a year our kills have not faltered and we continue to stay far ahead, and always come out ontop of FA.
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Gift
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Posted - 2005.01.16 06:24:00 -
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Loot is 100% behind Rubra Libertas Militia. Though we can not support you financially we will be more than happy to support you militarily.
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Skape Gote
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Posted - 2005.01.16 08:52:00 -
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I cant see what all the flames are about, all they asked was for sponsorship to cover the cost of the empire alliance war.
Either someone will think this is a good deal or they wont. As for just wanting to gank noobs and agent runners, it can be very effective to severely hinder an alliances ops by attacking im Empire.
Good luck Rubra Libertas Militia, hope you find that benefactor. Maybe passing on a percentage of loot sales back to your employer would make them more forthcoming? There should be plenty if you are as good as you say.
As for FA are you really suprised this many people in the game hate you?
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Lazlo Lawson
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Posted - 2005.01.16 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: Lazlo Lawson on 16/01/2005 08:54:00
Alright, I get the point. It isn't a grudge so much as it's about money. Like so many wars, eh? And I guess if a faction gets money to wage war, that's certainly more profitful. It's like United States going to United Nations for money to back their war against Iraq. Except unlike the United States, Rubra can't go to war alone if they don't get 'international' support.
I guess that leads to the next question, why limit your sites on FA(Iraq), when other you can also invade Iran, Syria, and whoever else you feel like? I guess that sort of rounds itself back to my first question. Wouldn't it be more profitful to just gank any ship you see come through, or is their like a 'freedom fighter' aspect going on? Fighting back against the oppressive Fountain Alliance for whatever they do to oppress people?
It's understood that it's about money, I got that now, but when you tell your pilots they must go attack FA at all costs, what's the reason you give them to motivate them? It can't be only 'They've got good loot', because I'm sure plenty of people have good loot, what do you tell them when they ask why?
Edit: The last guy posted something about FA being hated, why? I guess that's what I'm missing. Why are they hated?
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.01.16 09:37:00 -
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*shakes head at most FA posting in the thread, most of whom i have never seen in Fountain and especially not trying to engage Rubra*
Originally by: Lazlo Lawson
Ah okay, some old hatchet to bury. Reminds me of the Hatfields and McCoys :P. Are there a lot of conflicts like this throughout eve? "You podded my mom 16 months ago, DIE!!!"
I guess the next question is, if FA is an alliance in 0.0 space, why would Rubra Libertas need money to fight them in empire? Can't they just fly to their region to kill FA? Do FA hide in empire? And if that's true then how could they kick anyone out of a 0.0 area if they aren't there? This stuff is confusing .
Forgive the ignorant questions, like I said, I'm just trying to learn.
Like already stated I think, they do hunt in Fountain. However they want to hunt us in empire ASWELL, it's that simple.
You should take what neutrals (non-FA/Rubra) say with a grain of salt, for most replies are irrelevant and merely general anti-FA flaming.
Why are FA hated by many? Probably because we have grown fat for a long time in relative peace, people are jealous of our wallets and bpo collections. (irony)
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2005.01.16 10:04:00 -
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pirates.....not very good ones at that.
/me donates 1 isk to the "get rubra a clue" appeal.
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Kaiser
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Posted - 2005.01.16 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ticondrius
I'll take the challenge. I use no alts here.
You, Rubra, are a group of bloody kids who have nothing better to do than gank the occasional Indy or lone T1 cruiser and declare your uber1337ness to everyone.
You are not Mercs, at least you recognize that. Hell, you're not even pirates. You are ANARCHISTS and MURDERERS, nothing more. The simple fact that you picked FA as your target is about the only thing you did that prevents you from being labled a total waste of effort.
You "claimed" YZ an hour or so before downtime, when everyone is asleep.
You gank 1-3 ships a day and declare uberage victory over the evil FA forces!
Now...you want to go to empire and gank our noobs, agent runners and researchers! Up to today, I had some respect for you, you actually do/did what so many pirate groups will not do, come out to 0.0 and challenge an alliance head-on. 
BUT! What's WORSE is not only do you no longer seem to have the guts for facing us in our own territory, you want someone else to PAY for you to declare formal war?!?
Go back to Empire and Mine Omber for 6-8 months and pay for it yourself, no Mommy or Daddy in EVE to give you an "allowance" or handouts when you throw a tantrum...bloody kids.
Just to make it clear:
1) We are fighting FA in fountain since 9 months now NON STOP. No more words needed. We don't talk, we fight. I have yet to find another corp fighting FA for 9 months without access to 0.0, outnumbered 30:1.
2) You rarely see us on forum. We never troll other threads. We never post how good we are.
3) We can afford the war. This doesn't mean we couldn't seek for sponsors. This doesn't mean we won't keep fighting in fountain. But this will add options like hitting FA in their soft belly, forcing them to spread so we can fight them in 1:1 odds.
4) Please stop flaming. this is non sense. we are not asking FA to sponsor us so why all this angry reaction from FA alts?
5) it's funny that the people we fight usually respect us, and we respect them. Funny how the flames come from people who never seen a battlefield unless if in a 60 ships gang to seek 10 of ouyr BS
6) Luckly for FA, FA is also made of cool guys who fight, and sometimes fight also in fair odds. Who are able to have a civil chat in local after killing or losing the ship.
All this reaction makes me thinking some people are simply scared to go back at what was happening after shiva when we had war with FA and we were fighting them BOTH in fountain and in empire.
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scorchio
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Posted - 2005.01.16 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ticondrius
I'll take the challenge. I use no alts here.
You, Rubra, are a group of bloody kids who have nothing better to do than gank the occasional Indy or lone T1 cruiser and declare your uber1337ness to everyone.
You are not Mercs, at least you recognize that. Hell, you're not even pirates. You are ANARCHISTS and MURDERERS, nothing more. The simple fact that you picked FA as your target is about the only thing you did that prevents you from being labled a total waste of effort.
You "claimed" YZ an hour or so before downtime, when everyone is asleep.
You gank 1-3 ships a day and declare uberage victory over the evil FA forces!
Now...you want to go to empire and gank our noobs, agent runners and researchers! Up to today, I had some respect for you, you actually do/did what so many pirate groups will not do, come out to 0.0 and challenge an alliance head-on.
BUT! What's WORSE is not only do you no longer seem to have the guts for facing us in our own territory, you want someone else to PAY for you to declare formal war?!?
Go back to Empire and Mine Omber for 6-8 months and pay for it yourself, no Mommy or Daddy in EVE to give you an "allowance" or handouts when you throw a tantrum...bloody kids.
After that little outburst I am going to fund the war myself.
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Chris
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Posted - 2005.01.16 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Wuubaa
pirates.....not very good ones at that.
/me donates 1 isk to the "get rubra a clue" appeal.
How exactly are we pirates exactly? We're hardly any different to you, we never ask for bounties EVER and if a member was caught trying to there would be severe repercussions as a result.
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2005.01.16 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Wuubaa on 16/01/2005 12:51:21
u attacked me before i was fa.
You attacked me when i was FA....not unsuprisingly
and you still attack me now if you see me.
Therefore u = pirates.
Originally by: Kaiser
1) we are not pirates. we fight only FA.
Oooooooooooo....************.....
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.01.16 13:37:00 -
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Sorry Kaiser it wasnt meant to be a flame, and I didnt mean to disrespect cos tbh I have never heard of you guys.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2005.01.16 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: ZUDD
Edited by: ZUDD on 16/01/2005 06:23:56
All i have to say is: Look at www.eve-kills.com
We are in the top 10,
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Slightly off-topic and out of nothing but curiosity as I had never heard of this site, how many corps actually use it for every single kill? Would be nice to think that everyone does as it would prove more interesting statistically than individual corp/alliance kill-lists. On the other hand, if only a few corps are using it, the rankings and overall stats mean very little.
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Chris
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Posted - 2005.01.16 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kariss
Originally by: ZUDD
Edited by: ZUDD on 16/01/2005 06:23:56
All i have to say is: Look at www.eve-kills.com
We are in the top 10,
<snip>
Slightly off-topic and out of nothing but curiosity as I had never heard of this site, how many corps actually use it for every single kill? Would be nice to think that everyone does as it would prove more interesting statistically than individual corp/alliance kill-lists. On the other hand, if only a few corps are using it, the rankings and overall stats mean very little.
I doubt many alliance corps use it as they probably have their own kill boards.
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Insane Damage
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Posted - 2005.01.16 15:01:00 -
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u say that fa doesnt deserve to be in 0.0, then why are they still around ? |
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