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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
532
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Posted - 2012.08.12 03:55:00 -
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San Severina wrote:Karah Serrigan wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:People make it sound like t4 is chump change. It is not. I'm happy if my militia hits t3. If we hit t4, then I'm grateful and consider it icing on the cake.
+5 imps at t4: 32500lp 32,5m isk. Profit=~68m ISK/LP=2.1k +5 imps at t5: 16250lp 16,25m isk. Profit=~ 84m ISK/LP=5,1k You see, t4 isnt bad, but t5 is more than twice as good :) IT saddens me to see FW reduced to a numbers game for EvE's gnarled, mean, penny pinching, greedy little shopkeepers. A bunch of boring ass PVE for ISK, with the games equivalent of Wall Street Sub Prime Mortgage Crowd. Go suck a Chode the lot of you.
I love these holier than though people who are above isk. And how they look down on anyone who can add and subtract as if that ability makes them despicable. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
199
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Posted - 2012.08.12 04:13:00 -
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Karah Serrigan wrote:Seems like nulli gave up. They are flipping the systems as we speak and they will be in possession of amarr faction after the next downtime tomorrow. However they can only get about 46 systems as of now and time is too short to grind another 10 to vulnerabl tomorrow.
Maybe they were encouraged by Labapi, a system Minmatar flipped just to let people farm it, and which is still only 51.3%. And Evati, which they flipped right away, which has been open to Minmatar plexers for ages now, is still only 49.3%. If the farming hordes have abandoned Minmatar to the extent that Labapi's still not Vulnerable, then Amarr having systems enough for T4 might just deliver the memo to the rest of them. Nulli and Hun and the Horde can continue to contest the systems they need for T5. Another argument: if T5 is right ******* there, with T4+ systems already taken, then maybe their own peons will be encouraged to stop farming vulnerable systems and get to work.
The T4/T5 push only happens when people start dumping LP into the systems.
Vordak Kallager wrote:We'll be doing our best to make sure they are only able to hit T3 tomorrow.
You can't take systems enough for that by tomorrow. You can steal upgrade levels - but that's what 'level 6' is for, and that's a fight where the defender has an information advantage with the militia window. So all you can do is fight them at the bunkers. They'll be grinding a (relatively very weak) structure down outside of a deadspace pocket, with cynos ready - something they might've done before. So have fun with that :-) |

San Severina
Hoplite Brigade
16
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Posted - 2012.08.12 05:19:00 -
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Cearain wrote:San Severina wrote:Karah Serrigan wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:People make it sound like t4 is chump change. It is not. I'm happy if my militia hits t3. If we hit t4, then I'm grateful and consider it icing on the cake.
+5 imps at t4: 32500lp 32,5m isk. Profit=~68m ISK/LP=2.1k +5 imps at t5: 16250lp 16,25m isk. Profit=~ 84m ISK/LP=5,1k You see, t4 isnt bad, but t5 is more than twice as good :) IT saddens me to see FW reduced to a numbers game for EvE's gnarled, mean, penny pinching, greedy little shopkeepers. A bunch of boring ass PVE for ISK, with the games equivalent of Wall Street Sub Prime Mortgage Crowd. Go suck a Chode the lot of you. I love these holier than thou people who are above isk. And how they look down on anyone who can add and subtract as if that ability makes them despicable.
None of us are above ISK, the same as we all need $$ irl. & we can all add and subtract, that doesn't mean it should be the primary focus of faction war. The same as the accumulation of wealth irl is the sole interest of the most banal & soulless 'citizens' the accumulation of LP & working the FW system seems to have attracted the very same people in the EvE universe. Or just brought out the 'greed is good' mentality in it's existing members. Please try to understand, not all of us play EvE with the accumulation of ISK as our ultimate goal. |

Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
293
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Posted - 2012.08.12 05:28:00 -
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most of the wars ever started has been about money. If it wasn't started over money, money did sure enter the picture very quickly. Wether it was the raw money or the power that money offered/could buy On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |

Dan Carter Murray
58
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Posted - 2012.08.12 05:30:00 -
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Karah Serrigan wrote:Koujjo Dian wrote:ISK, ISK, ISK and cashing out. That's all anyone is ever concerned about. Feel like I've walked into a Chinese gold farmer sub section of the forums. I'll be glad when CCP does the next round of FW changes and maybe FW will be about fighting for something instead of lining our wallets. What else is there to talk about? Breaking news, a huge fight broke out between the amarr and minmatar militias on the kamela gate in sosala . It looks like amarr are winning by having killed 3 rifters already and only losing 1 punisher, but minmatar brought reinforcements in form of 3 thrashers. The battle is raging on. -»\_(pâä)_/-»
Battle report is all wrong.
Minmatar brought reinforcements of 27 stabber fleets, 2 falcons, 3 blackbirds, 7 canes, and 12 tornadoes.
They then called the 4 punisher fleet pu$$ies for not sticking around.
Jjohnpaul xvii fapped during the engagement while reading the blog of Susan Black aka Susan B!tch (it's what she's known as within the amarr) and whored onto every kill mail (the 1 punisher).
Hans checked his EVE mail and was unable to join the engagement because he was rofling at hate mail from fweddit. Subsequently he considered joining amarr but decided to stay on easy street.
Nulli showed up 6 hours later to an abandoned battlefield in gunless Merlins with cynos and dropped caps on a non-vulnerable bunker because they have no clue wtf is going on.
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Ethan Argoin
The Forsworn Protectorate
14
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Posted - 2012.08.12 07:18:00 -
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Meh TBH I got to 600k LP and got BORED!!!!
I will be happy to cash in that 600k LP to cover my PVP losses, which is what my corp is in FW for.
But ultimately, to keep a good ISK income, alts are indeed the future. And I dont mean Minnie/Gallente alts either.
You can make good ISK in a Machariel or Nightmare in high sec smashing through level 4's while you hunt prey on your main. EASY!!
The less LP FARMER carebears that are in Factional Warfare in general the better. I hope CCP nerf it TBH! |

Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
2
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Posted - 2012.08.12 07:31:00 -
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When I see the Minmatar SFI fleet you can see what in fw is broken. The first who hits T5 wins. I mean: Have you ever seen a Omen Navy issue fleet? No. Minnies hit T5 several times and in long terms they wil always be winning because this T5 events caused do mauch imbalance that it can-¦t be repaired. They are all sitting on their billions of isk and several hundred SFI and in our militia you should be happy if you have at least one Omen Navy Issue. At least let us better not mention that minnie ships are still completely overpowered.... Okay amarr have the best BS but how often do you use BS in fw? All I see is as always: Thrashers, Ruptures, SFI. If we really hit only T4 that will be a real fail. lol. Totaly fail. But I suppose we won-¦t be able to make more. Well. After that we will be really f... because we will be plexed down again like hell and we will have to deal with minnie AND gallente plexers. In my opinion Nulli wasn-¦t that bad. I mean fw is really completely another eve and for this terms they weren-¦t bad.
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Ethan Argoin
The Forsworn Protectorate
15
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Posted - 2012.08.12 07:59:00 -
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Dr Sheng-Ji Yang wrote:When I see the Minmatar SFI fleet you can see what in fw is broken. The first who hits T5 wins. I mean: Have you ever seen a Omen Navy issue fleet? No. Minnies hit T5 several times and in long terms they wil always be winning because this T5 events caused so much imbalance that it can-¦t be repaired. They are all sitting on their billions of isk and several hundred SFI and in our militia you should be happy if you have at least one Omen Navy Issue. At least let us better not mention that minnie ships are still completely overpowered.... Okay amarr have the best BS but how often do you use BS in fw? All I see is as always: Thrashers, Ruptures, SFI. Actually fw is a total fail because you cant-¦t afford it without running a plexing or industrial support alt. Fail again. If we really hit only T4 that will be a real fail. lol. Totaly fail. But I suppose we won-¦t be able to make more. Well. No wonder when fightig against hundreds of SFI.... After that we will be really f... because we will be plexed down again like hell and we will have to deal with minnie AND gallente plexers. In my opinion Nulli wasn-¦t that bad. I mean fw is really completely another eve and for this terms they weren-¦t bad.
You are slightly incorrect there Sheng buddy.
Quite often Amarr do use NOmens and very regularly FATE will use BS. |

Crosi Wesdo
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
347
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Posted - 2012.08.12 09:04:00 -
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Karah Serrigan wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Karah Serrigan wrote: 200k lp per 2.5 hours is under the circumstance that you have full set of systems with majors to cycle through with no one to stop you. If caldari systems are really that quiet, then gratz, nice to have i guess. 330m isk per hour is really good, yes, but you can get that through highsec missioning too. However it takes effort, you need to know what to do and you need a machariel, which is not a stabbed 5m merlin. So yes, FW is better than missioning for the broad mass and i admit it, but the isk is nothing special. I can rival that with what i do. I, however, cannot rival t5 isk :P What exactly do you mean by gallente tier 4> amarr t4? 90% of the items are exactly the same, except for the faction ships and damage mods, which btw are bad because you need tags and the amount of tags you need isnt affected by tiers.
Need tags for ships? And the amarr bs are sub 300m while the gallente ships are 400-500m, is what i meant. I dispute that you can run lvl 4's at anywhere close to 330m per hour in any ship. Other than perhaps a once per quarter epic arc for some factions. Only for the faction mods. Sorry my wording wasnt precise there. You are right though, gallente ships are indeed better than implants but the daily turnover is quite for low for them so i reckon you will have trouble selling a million worth of dominix navy issues. Then again...ok you convinced me, gallente has a better store :D You dont have to believe me on the highsec missions part, but it is true, i dont want to disclose how exactly obviously, because competition would be a killer there :P
Well it will take us that long to re capture enough systems to cash out that over the month or two till it happens the market can absorb quite a few domis at good prices.
San Severina wrote: None of us are above ISK, the same as we all need $$ irl. & we can all add and subtract, that doesn't mean it should be the primary focus of faction war. The same as the accumulation of wealth irl is the sole interest of the most banal & soulless 'citizens' the accumulation of LP & working the FW system seems to have attracted the very same people in the EvE universe. Or just brought out the 'greed is good' mentality in it's existing members. Please try to understand, not all of us play EvE with the accumulation of ISK as our ultimate goal.
its all relative. You barely ever pvp and as such spend next to nothing to upkeep your play style. Faction war tends to be an expensive occupation but has good income to maintain it. |

Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance
186
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Posted - 2012.08.12 10:26:00 -
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they have been jumping a small super fleet around blitzing systems.
http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |

Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
537
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Posted - 2012.08.12 11:21:00 -
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Dr Sheng-Ji Yang wrote:When I see the Minmatar SFI fleet you can see what in fw is broken. The first who hits T5 wins.
If Nulli would have just let us finish up the work we would have been able to hit tier five in about 2 weeks. The reason we are not hitting tier five is because nulli decided to botch this. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
265
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Posted - 2012.08.12 12:33:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Dr Sheng-Ji Yang wrote:When I see the Minmatar SFI fleet you can see what in fw is broken. The first who hits T5 wins. If Nulli would have just let us finish up the work we would have been able to hit tier five in about 2 weeks. The reason we are not hitting tier five is because nulli decided to botch this.
Nulli failed at tier 5, but for different reasons than you think. Faction warfare was always only a temporary thing for them and they wanted to leave a week ago.
Also, complaining about the Minmatar running disposable all SFI fleets is just dumb considering that with a day old Minmatar farming alt each major will get you almost 3 SFI bpcs at Tier 5. I agree that its broken, but fw being broken doesn't mean that whoever hits Tier 5 first wins, considering theres no reason everyone shouldn't be able to get in on sweet Tier 5 goodness.
The moar you cry the less you pee |

Lexmana
686
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Posted - 2012.08.12 13:23:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote: theres no reason everyone shouldn't be able to get in on sweet Tier 5 goodness. Actually, it only take a few fools to stop it. And there are a lot of fools.
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Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
267
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Posted - 2012.08.12 13:36:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote: theres no reason everyone shouldn't be able to get in on sweet Tier 5 goodness. Actually, it only take a few fools to stop it. And there are a lot of fools.
Who's more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him? -Obi-wan Kenobi
The moar you cry the less you pee |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
480
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Posted - 2012.08.12 13:54:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:We'll be doing our best to make sure they are only able to hit T3 tomorrow. 
That would require actually engaging us. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á |

Dan Carter Murray
63
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Posted - 2012.08.12 14:10:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:We'll be doing our best to make sure they are only able to hit T3 tomorrow.  That would require actually engaging us.
That is the quote of the century right?
quick edit: this is what they yell as they run away from FW? |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
188
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Posted - 2012.08.12 17:15:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:Aiwha wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:We'll be doing our best to make sure they are only able to hit T3 tomorrow.  That would require actually engaging us. That is the quote of the century right? quick edit: this is what they yell as they run away from FW?
The 10-15 qcats that moved up north *only* got about 700 nulli kills in the 10 days we were there.
And that's not even the hun reloaded guys who were equally fun to farm. |

Dan Carter Murray
64
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Posted - 2012.08.12 18:01:00 -
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maybe not?
lol.
it appears everyone is mad at the soon-to-be highsec mining alliance  |

Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
537
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Posted - 2012.08.12 18:17:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Cearain wrote:Dr Sheng-Ji Yang wrote:When I see the Minmatar SFI fleet you can see what in fw is broken. The first who hits T5 wins. If Nulli would have just let us finish up the work we would have been able to hit tier five in about 2 weeks. The reason we are not hitting tier five is because nulli decided to botch this. Nulli failed at tier 5, but for different reasons than you think. Faction warfare was always only a temporary thing for them and they wanted to leave a week ago..
Then they are much dumber than I originally thought. They Kept farming systems that were already vulnerable instead of moving on to systems that were still contested.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Roderick Grey
House Of Serenity. Unprovoked Aggression
28
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:21:00 -
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Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights... |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
377
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:39:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights... The 18th century British Infantry is looking to recruit alliances like Nulli. |

Hrett
Justified Chaos
148
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Posted - 2012.08.13 23:02:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights...
Nulli deciding to enter FacWar
Nulli deciding to leave FacWar
I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |

Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
447
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Posted - 2012.08.13 23:06:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights...
So you're saying QCATS didn't actually "fight" Nulli. Instead, QCATS ganked Nulli.
I can live with that. |

Self-destruct It's Okay
RAM Legion DOT
0
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Posted - 2012.08.13 23:56:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights... http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=123531
"but I heard ASBs were OP!
oh god what is a transversal"
there's hundreds of killmails just like these -- I don't think QCATS are the problem here
I'm sure that in a competition of who can correctly orbit an anchor, Nulli would give gold-medal calibre performances. Sadly such elite tactics are not incredibly relevant to FW/actual pvp. |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
190
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Posted - 2012.08.14 00:11:00 -
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Self-destruct It's Okay wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights... http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=123531"but I heard ASBs were OP! oh god what is a transversal" there's hundreds of killmails just like these -- I don't think QCATS are the problem here I'm sure that in a competition of who can correctly orbit an anchor, Nulli would give gold-medal calibre performances. Sadly such elite tactics are not incredibly relevant to FW/actual pvp.
Was going to post something similar, saw it already done.
Just thought I'd add a few more "gunless frigates" here.
http://qcats.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14168578 http://qcats.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14318066 http://qcats.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14254446 <-- Not a great kill had far more than we needed, but love the cloak, guess they took tips from the caldari militia (or more specifically, the Hidden Snake fleet combat guide). http://qcats.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14269480
And not to mention, I love the guy who came up with these corp fits: (I'd say we probably killed 50 of these exact fits in the first week until they started running out//someone figured out they were really crap fits)
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17074480 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17074695
It looks like some nullsec "pro pvp" guy went into eft and went for max gank + tank with no understanding of frigate combat whatsoever. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
376
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Posted - 2012.08.14 00:46:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights... The 18th century British Infantry is looking to recruit alliances like Nulli.
The question is who would get the first volley? Us or them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdM44rovn6c Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
379
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Posted - 2012.08.14 02:21:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights... The 18th century British Infantry is looking to recruit alliances like Nulli. The question is who would get the first volley? Us or them? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdM44rovn6c http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War#Southern_theater
In an ironic sort of way, the Americans on the southern front employed Cockbag Thrasher ambush techniques at key jumpgates, err... battle points. The militiamen would alpha British pilots, err.. infantrymen, and then warp off, err.. run back into the forrest, before the British could return fire. |

Dan Carter Murray
74
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:09:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights... The 18th century British Infantry is looking to recruit alliances like Nulli. The question is who would get the first volley? Us or them? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdM44rovn6c http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War#Southern_theaterIn similar way, the Americans on the southern front employed Cockbag Thrasher ambush techniques at key jumpgates, err... battle points. The militiamen would alpha British pilots, err.. infantrymen, and then warp off, err.. run back into the forrest, before the British could return fire. This sort of warfare demoralized the British army who retreated to the safety of Otesala and eventually left low sec for good.
Uh...Brits came back though in 1812
And in the 60s via Beatles "British Invasion" |

Roderick Grey
House Of Serenity. Unprovoked Aggression
28
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Posted - 2012.08.14 15:14:00 -
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Self-destruct It's Okay wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights... http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=123531"but I heard ASBs were OP! oh god what is a transversal" there's hundreds of killmails just like these -- I don't think QCATS are the problem here I'm sure that in a competition of who can correctly orbit an anchor, Nulli would give gold-medal calibre performances. Sadly such elite tactics are not incredibly relevant to FW/actual pvp.
So your argument is that you have evidence of Some Nullitard doing something stupid, therefore they can't fight at all. |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
191
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Posted - 2012.08.14 15:18:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Self-destruct It's Okay wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Jesus, the amount of minmatard chest beating is ridiculous here.
I hope that most Qcats understand that ganking gunless frigs isn't fighting Nulli at all, that's ganking a gunless frig. And when Nulli complain about not receiving fights they're actually talking about organised engagements, with Fc's, Ewar... ships bigger than Thrashers... Y'know... good fights... http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=123531"but I heard ASBs were OP! oh god what is a transversal" there's hundreds of killmails just like these -- I don't think QCATS are the problem here I'm sure that in a competition of who can correctly orbit an anchor, Nulli would give gold-medal calibre performances. Sadly such elite tactics are not incredibly relevant to FW/actual pvp. So your argument is that you have evidence of Some Nullitard doing something stupid, therefore they can't fight at all.
That isn't an isolated incident: The argument is that most Nulli can't fight at all outside of a fleet with some FC telling them exactly what to do. |
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