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Ghalyen
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Posted - 2010.12.13 12:17:00 -
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Hello! I am about to finish up my skill training for Tech 2 Cruise missiles, and have been looking at which missiles I want to use.
It looks like a lot of the firepower of the Fury missiles would be wasted on cruisers or smaller, due to explosion size/sig radius. Comparing numbers with the explosion radius on the furies and the sig radiuses of Battleships though, and it looks like there will still be some wasted DPS there.
Will Guided Missile Precision make up for the difference there? Should I be using precision missiles on everything except Battleships then switch over to Furies for those??
Thanks much for your input!!
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1600 RT
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Posted - 2010.12.13 12:48:00 -
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if we speak about PvP there are very little reason to use cruise missilie and if you really want to use them faction ammo is the best choice for the 95% of the time if we speak about PvE fury missile with rigor rigs are gret for anything of the size of a BC and above, no reason to use javelin in pve. guided missile precision and target navigation prediction are very useful to make furies work
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Ghalyen
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Posted - 2010.12.13 12:52:00 -
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Yea this would be strictly PvE, Level 4 Mission running in a Raven for now, CNR eventually.
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.13 14:11:00 -
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Slap on 3x Rigor rigs and one TP. And get Guided Missile Precision to at least IV.
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Ghalyen
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Posted - 2010.12.13 15:12:00 -
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Guided Missile Precision is to level 5, got a TP- aren't Capacitor Control Rigs usually used on Ravens and not Rigors?
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Deo ExMachina
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Posted - 2010.12.13 15:36:00 -
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ok most people run lvl 4s for the isk. i will assume that is what you are doing. using tech 2 ammor is ok you get some more dps but you have to pay more for the ammo and faction ammo imo is better than tech 2 isw very costy. i made the mistake of using tech 2 and faction ammo in every mission trying to get it done fast but the time diff is not that great and i was not maken money cus i had to spend it on ammo tech one ammo works just fine and for some missions that are long range (worlds) i can see using faction or if you need alot more dps i can see using tech 2 but for the grind mission running just stick with t1 ammo
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Mookie Johnson
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Posted - 2010.12.13 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ghalyen aren't Capacitor Control Rigs usually used on Ravens and not Rigors?
Needs +3% CPU implant. Heavy booster gives you all the cap you'll ever need.
[Raven, Rigors] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Kinetic Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermal Deflection Field II Target Painter II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.12.13 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mookie Johnson
Originally by: Ghalyen aren't Capacitor Control Rigs usually used on Ravens and not Rigors?
Needs +3% CPU implant. Heavy booster gives you all the cap you'll ever need.
[Raven, Rigors] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Kinetic Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermal Deflection Field II Target Painter II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
A meta 4 target painter and a faction thermal shield hardener will cost about the same as the +3% CPU implant, and use less cap as a bonus.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.12.13 17:46:00 -
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Precision cruise missiles are _almost_ always worthless. Because they lose damage over faction, in effect the only time they end up better, is when they'd be doing almost no damage anyway.
Fury is ok - the damage output is high, but does, as you say, suffer from worse ability to hit small targets. So it's not the only ammo you'll ever need, but it does make a useful supplement to your normal loadout.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2010.12.13 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Deo ExMachina ok most people run lvl 4s for the isk. i will assume that is what you are doing. using tech 2 ammor is ok you get some more dps but you have to pay more for the ammo and faction ammo imo is better than tech 2 isw very costy. i made the mistake of using tech 2 and faction ammo in every mission trying to get it done fast but the time diff is not that great and i was not maken money cus i had to spend it on ammo tech one ammo works just fine and for some missions that are long range (worlds) i can see using faction or if you need alot more dps i can see using tech 2 but for the grind mission running just stick with t1 ammo
I fear you've only done half your work. Do you have actual data detailing what isk is made or lost due to using t2 ammo(not arguing faction here yet)?
In regards to worlds collide, I want to recall there's no ships outside of torp range(Ie some 45km tops) throughout the mission? (Assuming you don't do silly things like flying off in the wrong direction, shooting random rats you don't have to etc) Parrots, commence!
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.12.13 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ghalyen Guided Missile Precision is to level 5, got a TP- aren't Capacitor Control Rigs usually used on Ravens and not Rigors?
rigors have been standard ever since (well shortly after) the quantum rise expansion.
I use fury missiles on pretty much everything but elite cruisers.
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