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Tony SoXai	Posted - 2010.12.14 17:27:00 - [1] So there's been a lot of debate on whether solo PvP is dead or not. The truth is that it isn't dead. It just isn't insanely popular at the moment, but it can be done if you set your mind to it and don't aimlessly wander about, which can run you into gatecamps/dram tacklers. It can be boring to have to take your time and be patient when finding targets, but that's the price you pay to be a successful solo PvPer. I learned this the hard way and lost many Vexors to stupidity and impatience. If you are serious about solo PvP, a piece of advice is to make an alt and train it for covops/probing to find you targets. I would also reccomend you stay in a certain system only for as long as you can before the local campers begin to take notice, then change system. I usually follow a "circuit" around the eve universe going in a kind of circle, but sometimes I also decide to take a trip into deep 0.0 Anyway, here is the Ishtar that I use For solo PvP and also for 1v1ing people in Amarr/Dodixie sometimes. [Ishtar, Supertar] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Armor EM Hardener True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 10MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Ogre II x1 It's got 65k ehp (75k with hardners on overload) and 600 dps. Dual prop and double webs. It is able to flee pretty much any 1v1 it gets into, if it has to. The faction isn't absolutely nevessary it just gives better tank and stuff. I just mean to show that Vagabonds and Curses aren't even close to the only ships viable for solo. Just don't buy your T2/pirate ship before you have had lots of experience in cheaper ships. Start with having 1v1s with other frigs and practicing you GTFO abilities and also your abilties to keep on them if they try to GTFO. Get used to cliking on a celestial on your overview and spamming the warp button as your ships is about to blow up and get to know all of the station mechanics like the 30 second timers ad stuff. Make safespots because you will undoubtedly be back in that system some day even if you plan on leaving soon. Overall just be careful but don't be afraid to engage outnumbered (not by a lot though). You won't get good by reading eft or forums though, the best way to do it is to get out there and practice for yourself. This post is mostly directed at those of you who haven't experienced "good" pvp yet but all comments are of course welcome. I would also like a rating and critique of my Ishtar :)
Merdaneth Amarr Angel Wing.	Posted - 2010.12.14 17:42:00 - [2] Stupid forum at my post... In short: What is your engagement range. What ships will return fire if you engage them? Give us a list of your last 10 (non-drop-a-can-kind) engagements. How many hours between each fight do you need to spend looking for it? ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Dark Assassin15 Failed Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.12.14 18:02:00 - [3] [Ishtar, Diaper-Sniper] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Centii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Centii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Centii A-Type Reactive Plating Damage Control II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Faint Warp Disruptor I 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Garde II x5 Warden II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II x5 it's a DRONE BOAT......
Target Painter	Posted - 2010.12.14 21:49:00 - [4] Originally by: Dark Assassin15 it's a DRONE BOAT...... How much those A-types run for nowadays?
Dark Assassin15 Failed Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.12.14 21:53:00 - [5] Edited by: Dark Assassin15 on 14/12/2010 21:54:49 Edited by: Dark Assassin15 on 14/12/2010 21:54:04 Originally by: Target Painter Originally by: Dark Assassin15 it's a DRONE BOAT...... How much those A-types run for nowadays? if i'm not mistaken they are not too expensive. the reason i use that Resistance plate is because i dont have trimarks and energized plating gives more resists but no ehp so i use a better adaptive plate to compensate for the loss of trimarks, Garde II's hit like mini sledge hammers and wardens can hit out to about 120km
Dark Assassin15 Failed Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.12.15 01:58:00 - [6] Edited by: Dark Assassin15 on 15/12/2010 01:58:46 Originally by: Dark Assassin15 Edited by: Dark Assassin15 on 14/12/2010 21:54:49 Edited by: Dark Assassin15 on 14/12/2010 21:54:04 Originally by: Target Painter Originally by: Dark Assassin15 it's a DRONE BOAT...... How much those A-types run for nowadays? if i'm not mistaken they are not too expensive. the reason i use that Resistance plate is because i dont have trimarks and energized plating gives more resists but no ehp so i use a better adaptive plate to compensate for the loss of trimarks, Garde II's hit like mini sledge hammers and wardens can hit out to about 120km yea there expensive, i was curious and check contracts. just used t2. its a hac after all. once you drop your drones orbit them at 50 or so to keep your target within optimal of the gaurds and dont be afraid to abandon them either. let your drones do the work
Widemouth Deepthroat	Posted - 2010.12.16 08:47:00 - [7] Plated ishtar for 0.0...must be noob.
Korg Leaf Time Bandits.	Posted - 2010.12.16 09:31:00 - [8] I prefer the gila to the ishtar, cause it nano's better
Fastbikkel T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2010.12.16 09:38:00 - [9] Setup doesn't look too bad. I've given up on the ishtar though, in every single engagement i had i lost it withing seconds. Ishtar gets a lot of hostile attention. I have tried armor set and also nano set, both cases seem "fail" to me. This ship costs a lot of isk that are not worth it, but that is just personal. Don't go solo with this one, go in gang and warp in after the group has arrived. If you warp in first, you die first. -If the enemy is in range, so are you-
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2010.12.16 09:39:00 - [10] Confirming that "solo" PVP requires an alt in a covt ops, if you are serious about your "solo" PVP.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2010.12.16 09:46:00 - [11] Edited by: Omara Otawan on 16/12/2010 09:48:04 Originally by: Mutnin Confirming that "solo" PVP requires an alt in a covt ops, if you are serious about your "solo" PVP. Not required I'd say, but highly recommended if you want to be effective / successful (that is assuming running around in a junk t1 frigate or inty isnt the pinnacle of solo pvp though). As long as the probing alt isnt in the actual fight, that still does count as solo pvp.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2010.12.16 09:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Omara Otawan Originally by: Mutnin Confirming that "solo" PVP requires an alt in a covt ops, if you are serious about your "solo" PVP. Not required I'd say, but highly recommended if you want to be effective / successful. As long as the probing alt isnt in the actual fight, that still does count as solo pvp. Does that also count for alts in command ships as well and covts as you suggested being on grid for you to get warp-ins. It's all dual boxing in the end, regardless if they are on the grid helping you fight or not. Having a alt scout provides a ton of intel that is often hard to come by,, if you are actually soloing with one account. It allows you to size up your competition in prior to ever having your self seen in many cases giving you and edge over them by suprise Much less it allows you to avoid camps get warp in's ect..ect.. Personally, I don't solo so much anymore, I "dual box". When I used to solo the risk was much more than it is with out the scout hence the reason I no longer consider it soloing. I do enjoy just jumping in a Vexor from time to time and blindly with no scouts, just traveling around as a flashy to see what happens, but anytime a scout is involved it's really dual boxing. Once you get to that conclusion the next step is to just put the alt in a combat ship and dual box in something more useful than a cloaking fig. Anyway sry on the derail.. just one of those tid bits that annoys me, simply because real soloing requires much more effort, skill and luck.
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.12.16 10:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Mutnin ... 1337 pvpers consider even 20 rokhs synced together solo if there is only 1 person piloting them. So boosting/probing t3 alt means nothing...
Korg Leaf Time Bandits.	Posted - 2010.12.16 10:52:00 - [14] Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Originally by: Mutnin ... 1337 pvpers consider even 20 rokhs synced together solo if there is only 1 person piloting them. So boosting/probing t3 alt means nothing... Although I agree using alts isnt solo, if 1 pilot is using 20 rokhs all at the same time to pvp that would be fairly impressive
carbomb Super Team Munkey	Posted - 2010.12.16 11:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Tony SoXai [Ishtar, Supertar] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Armor EM Hardener True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 10MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Ogre II x1 looks ok although i'd consider using nos instead of the neuts as you will be dead in the water if you get neuted. atleast the small nos's will allow you to keep ur hardeners active and ur webs going (hopefully) allowing you a little more time to try and kill ur target. ofc sometimes u will be just f**ked but thats just pvp. I used to run dual rep ishtar but found that the lack of hp was susceptible to instapoppage. All in all, good ship tho.
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.12.16 12:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Korg Leaf Although I agree using alts isnt solo, if 1 pilot is using 20 rokhs all at the same time to pvp that would be fairly impressive Well, at first i was like , bet then... .
Dark Assassin15 Failed Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.12.16 13:06:00 - [17] Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat Plated ishtar for 0.0...must be noob. yea, Freakin Noobs These days.
Easley Thames The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.16 14:48:00 - [18] That fit is great, but nothing is worse than landing 20k off with only a scram fit. I would drop one web for a disruptor, unless you're looking mostly for consensual pvp where people will stick around or move into scram range themselves. Post-nano-age I used to roam in similar setup. One thing to keep in mind was that this is really not a speedy boat, and it usually requires fighting very close to protect your drones. Therefore it's high risk. The DPS is good but not amazing, so you can't always end fights as fast as you would like. ---
Diesel47	Posted - 2010.12.16 14:55:00 - [19] Originally by: Tony SoXai So there's been a lot of debate on whether solo PvP is dead or not. The truth is that it isn't dead. It just isn't insanely popular at the moment, but it can be done if you set your mind to it and don't aimlessly wander about, which can run you into gatecamps/dram tacklers. It can be boring to have to take your time and be patient when finding targets, but that's the price you pay to be a successful solo PvPer. I learned this the hard way and lost many Vexors to stupidity and impatience. If you are serious about solo PvP, a piece of advice is to make an alt and train it for covops/probing to find you targets. I would also reccomend you stay in a certain system only for as long as you can before the local campers begin to take notice, then change system. I usually follow a "circuit" around the eve universe going in a kind of circle, but sometimes I also decide to take a trip into deep 0.0 Anyway, here is the Ishtar that I use For solo PvP and also for 1v1ing people in Amarr/Dodixie sometimes. [Ishtar, Supertar] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Armor EM Hardener True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 10MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Ogre II x1 It's got 65k ehp (75k with hardners on overload) and 600 dps. Dual prop and double webs. It is able to flee pretty much any 1v1 it gets into, if it has to. The faction isn't absolutely nevessary it just gives better tank and stuff. I just mean to show that Vagabonds and Curses aren't even close to the only ships viable for solo. Just don't buy your T2/pirate ship before you have had lots of experience in cheaper ships. Start with having 1v1s with other frigs and practicing you GTFO abilities and also your abilties to keep on them if they try to GTFO. Get used to cliking on a celestial on your overview and spamming the warp button as your ships is about to blow up and get to know all of the station mechanics like the 30 second timers ad stuff. Make safespots because you will undoubtedly be back in that system some day even if you plan on leaving soon. Overall just be careful but don't be afraid to engage outnumbered (not by a lot though). You won't get good by reading eft or forums though, the best way to do it is to get out there and practice for yourself. This post is mostly directed at those of you who haven't experienced "good" pvp yet but all comments are of course welcome. I would also like a rating and critique of my Ishtar :) I can say Solo Pvp is dead because all the WoW players and other noobs who have no real skill/talent migrated to EvE and now all you see is ganks and blobs. Blob killmails are not even worth posting IMO. If you see solo pvp tell me where it is because I do not find it often.
Infinity Ziona Minmatar Cloakers	Posted - 2010.12.16 15:59:00 - [20] Using a scouting alt does not make the fight 2 v 1 if the alt isn't boosting or fighting. Its only job is to set up the fight. After that you are on your own. --------------------------------------------- Hate Bots / RMT? Do something worthwhile and good for EvE and cause tears and anguish for others, while doing absolutely nothing yourself! Join up.
Tony SoXai	Posted - 2010.12.16 20:59:00 - [21] Diesel, yeah that is pretty much the case, that's why you need to find it yourslef and why its hard to do like I said get a covops alt it helps so much and really you shouldnt feel dishonourable about it when soloing is basically you versus eve. There is no one area for PvP, a lot of people will suggest places like Amamake or rancer, those places are ok but I find it better to hang around the surrounding systems of those kinds of places as being in the main system often they will try and bait you or scan you down and gate/station camps are rediculously numbered. Infinity, exactly, how many fights will you engage outnumbered, anyway? yesterday I was watching this solo hurricane fight a dramiel, vengeance, and Harpy, they had to call their buddy in another cane in and what sucks is the guy didnt even kill one of them.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2010.12.16 23:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Infinity Ziona Using a scouting alt does not make the fight 2 v 1 if the alt isn't boosting or fighting. Its only job is to set up the fight. After that you are on your own. The problem in that thinking, is setting up the fight is more than half the battle in most cases. If you are any good you will in most cases already know what your chances of winning the fight are before you even engage the target when using a scout. Likely just splitting hairs, but personally when I alt scout I don't look at it as soloing, but rather dual boxing.
Xuthi Minmatar Monsters	Posted - 2010.12.17 01:48:00 - [23] Edited by: Xuthi on 17/12/2010 01:49:51 Quote: I can say Solo Pvp is dead because all the WoW players and other noobs who have no real skill/talent migrated to EvE and now all you see is ganks and blobs. Blob killmails are not even worth posting IMO. If you see solo pvp tell me where it is because I do not find it often. Try down the fw pipe around Tama i.e reisato -> rakapas -> pyne -> Nennamaila and all the way down to ouelleta and hevrice area. I used to come across lots of solo FW guys/pirates when I roamed down there, mostly in afs/ faction frigs etc.Its fine if your in a frig but I really wouldnt want to roam around low sec in a bc without a scout alt, esp as below -5. Just settin yourself up to get ganked really, in my opinion anyway.
Hidden Snake Caldari Inglorious-Basterds	Posted - 2010.12.17 08:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Xuthi Edited by: Xuthi on 17/12/2010 01:49:51 Quote: I can say Solo Pvp is dead because all the WoW players and other noobs who have no real skill/talent migrated to EvE and now all you see is ganks and blobs. Blob killmails are not even worth posting IMO. If you see solo pvp tell me where it is because I do not find it often. Try down the fw pipe around Tama i.e reisato -> rakapas -> pyne -> Nennamaila and all the way down to ouelleta and hevrice area. I used to come across lots of solo FW guys/pirates when I roamed down there, mostly in afs/ faction frigs etc.Its fine if your in a frig but I really wouldnt want to roam around low sec in a bc without a scout alt, esp as below -5. Just settin yourself up to get ganked really, in my opinion anyway. i would go pie for that funnu ishtar which would probably die to first militia gang coming around. unfortunately wituout scouts he will die in tama area. WE ARE in STASIS NOW!
Xuthi Minmatar Monsters	Posted - 2010.12.17 09:51:00 - [25] Edited by: Xuthi on 17/12/2010 09:54:21 Edited by: Xuthi on 17/12/2010 09:52:09 Quote: i would go pie for that funnu ishtar which would probably die to first militia gang coming around. unfortunately wituout scouts he will die in tama area. Ah that was aimed at Diesel complaining about the lack of solo pvp, but yeh I agree about the ishtar though OP did say he had a scout alt so its not all that bad.

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