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Zero Causation	Posted - 2010.12.17 15:52:00 - [1] Approaching 90 mil skill points on an Amarr combat pilot. Every single skill dealing with combat for an Amarr pilot sub-Titan is maxed out completely. It's seems if all I want to be is the best Amarr combat pilot I can be, I'm done skill training. The only options left for a combat pilot that maxes one race seems to be to just start training another race. That doesn't sound very appealing and quite boring. Maybe we need more combat skills and or a level 6 for a lot of them? Specialization should keep going and not level off everyone at the same place so quickly. Thoughts?
Manfred Rickenbocker Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2010.12.17 15:58:00 - [2] One word: Certificates. What else says "I have the most shinyies of everyone!" more than being able to stick it in your profile? Get all those Amarr-everything certs to Elite! Also, if you havent, drones/missiles/shields also applies for Amarr as well. Finally, if you want to be the best Amarr you can be, you cant forgo those delicious delicious faction ships! ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times.
Kalle Demos Amarr Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.12.17 15:59:00 - [3] level 6 sounds stupid, make a 'level x' instead Originally by: Kool StoryBro <--- Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed. Random forum moments ftw
Keira Matrix	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:02:00 - [4] Originally by: Manfred Rickenbocker One word: Certificates. That has to be the worse suggestion for playing a game. Just like the crappy old achievements in WoW, although in WoW at least you had to do something to achieve them, in Eve all you do is wait.
SkinSin	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Kalle Demos level 6 sounds stupid, make a 'level x' instead It quite clearly needs to go to 11!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:03:00 - [6] Amarr-specialised Industry alt? Make your own shinies on a second character and become your own self-contained economyà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Kalle Demos Amarr Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:24:00 - [7] There is more to eve than Amarr! But I can understand the op, I have gotten to the point on one of my chars where the only thing left to train is a supercap which I am strongly against We need more ships!! Originally by: Kool StoryBro <--- Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed. Random forum moments ftw
Miriam Letisse	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:33:00 - [8] Even though the benefit is negligible, shield skills still have an effect on Amarr ships. Train those to the max! If you haven't already.
Roxanna Kell V.O.I.D.	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:36:00 - [9] Ship spec skills for all sub cap skills could keep people busy. Example: Raven specialisation Rank: 14 Bonus: 2% shield resistance per lvl Megathron specialisation Rank: 14 Bonus: 2% armor repair per lvl Raptor specialisation: Ran: 10 Bonus: 2% afterburner speed per lvl No spec for t2. This skills take a long time so spec can be rewarded instead of jacking up all races.
Miriam Letisse	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:40:00 - [10] Originally by: Roxanna Kell No spec for t2. This skills take a long time so spec can be rewarded instead of jacking up all races. Originally by: Roxanna Kell Raptor specialisation: huh?

Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse Broken Chains Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:44:00 - [11] Originally by: Zero Causation Approaching 90 mil skill points on an Amarr combat pilot. Every single skill dealing with combat for an Amarr pilot sub-Titan is maxed out completely. It's seems if all I want to be is the best Amarr combat pilot I can be, I'm done skill training. The only options left for a combat pilot that maxes one race seems to be to just start training another race. That doesn't sound very appealing and quite boring. Maybe we need more combat skills and or a level 6 for a lot of them? Specialization should keep going and not level off everyone at the same place so quickly. Thoughts? Gratz..you just won EVE. Commander Tac-Ops
Khorian Gallente Versatech Co. Blade.	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:47:00 - [12] How often have we heard from new players: But you have 100 mill SP, how am I ever gonna catch up? And you have to reply: It doesn't matter how much SP anyone has, eventually if you invest the time to learn the skills you will be as good as the 100 mill SP guy with your 20mill SP. Because no one EVER uses all his available skills at the same time, EVER. So no, keeping specializing more and more wont happen. What you should do is either start another char on the same account and consider this one "finished" or do as most other pvp people do and crosstrain for the other 3 races to be able to fly all ships to their fullest potential. There really is nothing better than not having to worry about what ships you might have available for use, because you can just hopp into any of them and use them. my 2cc You decide.
Keira Matrix	Posted - 2010.12.17 16:51:00 - [13] Originally by: Khorian There really is nothing better than not having to worry about what ships you might have available for use, because you can just hopp into any of them and use them. Very true, but if someone is role-playing more then this becomes less of an acceptable option.
Corvus Dove Caldari Event Horizon Plc. Consortium.	Posted - 2010.12.17 17:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Keira Matrix Originally by: Khorian There really is nothing better than not having to worry about what ships you might have available for use, because you can just hopp into any of them and use them. Very true, but if someone is role-playing more then this becomes less of an acceptable option. Not really. Learning the enemy's tech, trainign to be a spy, all sorts of RP opportunities there. ------------------------------------ I like long walks, a good book before bed, and human entrails served cold with a side order of scrap metal.
Shintai Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io	Posted - 2010.12.17 17:40:00 - [15] EvE is one of those funny games where SP/Level doesnt matter that much. A 5-10mio SP pilot can easily beat a 200mio SP pilot. Because it all comes down to modules layout and human skills. Also I am sure you can spend more Sps than anyone got and will have the next 5-10 years. Even if you only train race+neutral skills. -------------------------------------- Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Keira Matrix	Posted - 2010.12.17 17:44:00 - [16] Originally by: Corvus Dove Originally by: Keira Matrix Originally by: Khorian There really is nothing better than not having to worry about what ships you might have available for use, because you can just hopp into any of them and use them. Very true, but if someone is role-playing more then this becomes less of an acceptable option. Not really. Learning the enemy's tech, trainign to be a spy, all sorts of RP opportunities there. That's true but by opening up those possibilities you are also closing some which can never be opened again with that same character.
Zero Causation	Posted - 2010.12.17 17:47:00 - [17] Originally by: Miriam Letisse Even though the benefit is negligible, shield skills still have an effect on Amarr ships. Train those to the max! If you haven't already. Ya, I even have shield skills maxed, drones etc. Basically anything that is even remotely combat related to even Amarr I have trained. The only option to just cross train other races ships/weapons doesn't sound very exciting. I remember starting out in EvE thinking man, there is no way to catch up to those 2003 players! As a 2005 player though, I find it was not only fairly easy to catch up, the difference between a 90M SP skill level and a 30M skill level is very small if both specialized in the same thing. I have even trained Amarr cap ships which I never use just because I ran out of things to train!
OneTimeAt BannedSpank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.12.17 18:05:00 - [18] Have you got all those booster and thermodynamics skills maxed out too? How about Titans! Honestly cross training might sound boring to you but to me it means more choice. If it's for roleplay reasons then maybe you need to be able to fly Minmatar ships in order to commandeer slave heretics vessels ~
Witcher Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2010.12.17 18:08:00 - [19] bull**, im also pure amarr combat pilot and have over 100 mil and still have ** loads of stuff to train. your drones should be maxed out as these are generic support skills, all relevant support skills should be maxed out as well, for one jump portal generation should be level 5 rank 14 skill for titan, do you have that at 5 ? some people are just stupid and refuse to think before posting on forum
T'arho Sukri Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.17 19:08:00 - [20] ^^ and some people are easily butthurt Originally by: Schwa88 Edited by: Schwa88 on 04/11/2010 04:50:53 This thread has made my head asplode.

Aunty Nora	Posted - 2010.12.17 19:21:00 - [21] Only flying amar will leave you with not many options in certain combat situations, train up another race as well. Quote: I have gotten to the point on one of my chars where the only thing left to train is a supercap which I am strongly against lols as if
Zero Causation	Posted - 2010.12.17 22:44:00 - [22] Edited by: Zero Causation on 17/12/2010 22:44:27 Originally by: Witcher bull**, im also pure amarr combat pilot and have over 100 mil and still have ** loads of stuff to train. your drones should be maxed out as these are generic support skills, all relevant support skills should be maxed out as well, for one jump portal generation should be level 5 rank 14 skill for titan, do you have that at 5 ? some people are just stupid and refuse to think before posting on forum Really? That's the best you can come up with? My drones and relevant support skills are all maxed. Titan level 5? I've already said in the original post that I don't have nor care to have a Titan skill. I am a low-sec max-skill Amarr PvP'er, Titan would be a complete waste of time. Just stupid? I am suppose to take advice from a "Amarr PvP'er" that has 7 total kills in the last two years? You better slow down there, you might get worn out from all that PvP!
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.17 22:57:00 - [23] Did you have fun flying the new Amarr ships when you got them? Do you really think the other races have no fun ships to fly? Originally by: Khorian There really is nothing better than not having to worry about what ships you might have available for use, because you can just hopp into any of them and use them. my 2cc You decide. We have the same two cents. Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.12.17 23:01:00 - [24] Stop training. - I wish I was a three foot tall doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes
Generals4	Posted - 2010.12.17 23:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Zero Causation Approaching 90 mil skill points on an Amarr combat pilot. Every single skill dealing with combat for an Amarr pilot sub-Titan is maxed out completely. It's seems if all I want to be is the best Amarr combat pilot I can be, I'm done skill training. The only options left for a combat pilot that maxes one race seems to be to just start training another race. That doesn't sound very appealing and quite boring. Maybe we need more combat skills and or a level 6 for a lot of them? Specialization should keep going and not level off everyone at the same place so quickly. Thoughts? While cross training might seem "pointless" you could always go for those Pirate faction ships.
IcE DeX	Posted - 2010.12.17 23:27:00 - [26] hey, crosstrain sounds boring but it isnt, as you are a pure pvp amarr charakter you could start training for gallente for example. the mega or hyp are some real awesome ships i can just recommend to try them :). The other option is try to skill for trading or building which can be very nice too. Thats all options you have atm, if thats not fine for you you could start a new charakter or take a break of eve i think ;/. Hope that helped a bit your damn cold IcE
Rykuss	Posted - 2010.12.18 00:24:00 - [27] Firstly, congratulations for achieving your goal. Have you considered training non-combat skills to become a more well rounded Amarr citizen? How about your allies combat skills? Although I'm nowhere near achieving my goal of training all things Gallente, I can see myself being in your shoes someday. Forunately, I've already decided to cross train into Minmatar when that day comes. Best of luck to you.
Varesk Gallente Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.12.18 00:32:00 - [28] your stuff, may i have it?
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2010.12.18 00:36:00 - [29] scanning skills might be good. stealth bombers need missiles as well. shield skills, at least those for shield capacity will help as well. oh and max capacitor skills greatly help all races.
Barkaial Starfinder Minmatar The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost	Posted - 2010.12.18 00:40:00 - [30] Start another character? Play with it. No fun? Sell him later...



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