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ImmutableDark	Posted - 2010.12.19 12:42:00 - [1] There is no cookie cutter Scorpion fit so I'm pulling two that are commonly held to be good. [Scorpion, rah] Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Large Particle Dispersion Augmentor I Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Berserker TP-900 x1 Ogre II x1 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 EHP: 41k DPS: 499 ECM: 5x6.6 VS Phoon 36% chance to jam per module BASE ~90% Jam Rate 18.6% chance to jam per module with 1 eccm ~64% Jam Rate 10.2% chance to jam per module with 2 eccm 41.6% Jam Rate Modified Tank. EHP/1-Jam Rate/(AVGBSDPS/ScorpDPS) 0 eccm 414k/2=207k 1 eccm 115k/2=57.5k 2 eccm 70.9k/2=35.45k YOU CAN EASILY FIT 1 ECCM=SCORP DIES [Potato Bake] Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Large Particle Dispersion Augmentor I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Berserker TP-900 x1 Ogre II x1 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 DPS: 499 HPS: 293 EHP: 48519 Sig: 504m One midslot eccm basically cancels out the entire ecm of this setup. Why no armor fleet setup? Because the best setup I've seen for it uses 4 different racial ecm mods on it that have a jam strength between 6~7. I wouldn't waste that jam strength on a horse that had been shot in the face. If I were an FC I wouldn't waste time repping up a horrible jamming ship that does 0 dps and is 100% likely to get primaried. It's really only good at killing mission runners... I hate mission runners so I still like the scorpion... but it's a useless ship basically it costs way too much for what it does which is basically die a damn lot. I'm not even going to suggest a fix for the scorpion... they broke the only thing that was STILL good about it which was the ecm burst bonus... I have no idea why they broke this ship so badly damn. I'd make another topic about how ecm is semi-broken now but I cbf'd making any more of these broken caldari ship threads.
heheheh Phoenix Club	Posted - 2010.12.19 12:44:00 - [2] OP is very stupid
Aunty Nora	Posted - 2010.12.19 12:45:00 - [3] Every ship has something worng with it, thats the whole point you thick nonce.
Akiba Penrose Banana Airlines	Posted - 2010.12.19 12:51:00 - [4] Originally by: ImmutableDark YOU CAN EASILY FIT 1 ECCM=SCORP DIES This really made me lol. Merry Christmas to you sir.
Mr Dilkington	Posted - 2010.12.19 12:56:00 - [5] I would just like to thank the OP for giving us such amusment on vent this morning.
Mr Dilkington	Posted - 2010.12.19 13:07:00 - [6] and to top it off, all three stupid whine threads are in the wrong forum.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.19 13:11:00 - [7] Originally by: ImmutableDark YOU CAN EASILY FIT 1 ECCM=SCORP DIES So what we do, right, is we get ImmutableDark and Frogout in the same room together.. \|Bounty Fix\|Mining Makeover\|
Mr Dilkington	Posted - 2010.12.19 13:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Black Dranzer Originally by: ImmutableDark YOU CAN EASILY FIT 1 ECCM=SCORP DIES So what we do, right, is we get ImmutableDark and Frogout in the same room together.. lol now that i would like to see
Scorpionidae	Posted - 2010.12.19 13:41:00 - [9] Hay... I'm not broken!!! Scorpionidae
King Gore The Church of Sentcha	Posted - 2010.12.19 14:07:00 - [10] Originally by: ImmutableDark RABBLE RABBLE.. and is 100% likely to get primaried...RABBLE RABBLE It's primary for a reason. - #DEVOUR# Scream for me. I'll die for you #DEVOUR# Scream for me. I'll die for you #DEVOUR#
ImmutableDark	Posted - 2010.12.19 14:12:00 - [11] Originally by: King Gore Originally by: ImmutableDark RABBLE RABBLE.. and is 100% likely to get primaried...RABBLE RABBLE It's primary for a reason. A bad reason it sucks damn. How many scorpions do you fly I'm guessing about none? I'm pretty sure that every pilot in eve is like hey guys I want a 0 dps innefectual battleship that dies all the time because people think it's better than it is.
King Gore The Church of Sentcha	Posted - 2010.12.19 14:15:00 - [12] Originally by: ImmutableDark Originally by: King Gore Originally by: ImmutableDark RABBLE RABBLE.. and is 100% likely to get primaried...RABBLE RABBLE It's primary for a reason. A bad reason it sucks damn. How many scorpions do you fly I'm guessing about none? I'm pretty sure that every pilot in eve is like hey guys I want a 0 dps innefectual battleship that dies all the time because people think it's better than it is. Cry moar. Honestly, you couldn't throw this all in one thread? - #DEVOUR# Scream for me. I'll die for you #DEVOUR# Scream for me. I'll die for you #DEVOUR#
ImmutableDark	Posted - 2010.12.19 14:22:00 - [13] Edited by: ImmutableDark on 19/12/2010 14:21:58 Originally by: King Gore Originally by: ImmutableDark Originally by: King Gore Originally by: ImmutableDark RABBLE RABBLE.. and is 100% likely to get primaried...RABBLE RABBLE It's primary for a reason. A bad reason it sucks damn. How many scorpions do you fly I'm guessing about none? I'm pretty sure that every pilot in eve is like hey guys I want a 0 dps innefectual battleship that dies all the time because people think it's better than it is. Cry moar. Honestly, you couldn't throw this all in one thread? Bro who's crying now?
Shaemell Buttleson Euphoria Released	Posted - 2010.12.19 16:23:00 - [14] ImmutableDark needs to show us on the puppet where he was touched! * Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. - CCP Ildoge
Alpha Sentori Cayman Holdings	Posted - 2010.12.19 16:32:00 - [15] Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson ImmutableDark needs to show us on the puppet where he was touched! I spat my coffee out when I read this.... Thankyou Sir. This was a bad week to give up drinking!
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.12.19 17:19:00 - [16] Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 15% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength per level 20% bonus to ECM Target Jammer optimal and falloff range per level 20% Bonus to ECM Burst Range per level Much like sources of radiation (which I fear the OP may have some familiarity with), it is best to stay at range while in the Scorpion. Also, LOLMultispecs. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Aiwha Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.19 17:29:00 - [17] Scorp is a flee support boat. It makes a workable RRBS. (aka, some armor plates to give it some HP, armor rigs, and prayers that you don't get primaried.) Gullible
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2010.12.19 22:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Black Dranzer Originally by: ImmutableDark YOU CAN EASILY FIT 1 ECCM=SCORP DIES So what we do, right, is we get ImmutableDark and Frogout in the same room together.. Is that not one of the harbingers of the apocalypse?
Secondtryatthis	Posted - 2010.12.20 03:28:00 - [19] I'm sorry, but those scorp fits are just bad, and not just a little bit bad either.
Soldarius Caldari Independent Coalition	Posted - 2010.12.20 06:26:00 - [20] From which bodily orifice did you pull these **-fits? Tackle on a scorp? It's a long-range jamming BS! Fleet fit you armor tank it, which I personally don't care for as it has crap jam strength. For gang work, forget tank, pack it with 3 (and not more than 3) Hypnos SDA (meta 4 ECM mods are strictly better than T2), at least 1 of each racial ECM (higher jam strength and range), and MWD. For missile launchers use cruise missiles. If you are closing into tackle range (let alone torp range) with Scorp, you are doing it wrong. Cap and grid rigs? god you have no clue how to fit a scorpion. Hypnos SDA x3 PDS II QUAD LiF MWD Meta 4 racials (at least 1 of each) meta 4 multispec for jamming tackle frigates 1x scripted SeBo 1x Gravimetric ECCM) 4x cruise missile launchers 2x heavy neuts or 1x EM and Exp large smartbombs rigs: ECM augmentors/projectors drones: 5x medium Vespa EC-600 5x Warrior II Originally by:** CCP Masterplan "I'm cruel because I love you."
Dimitryy Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.20 10:49:00 - [21] Originally by: ImmutableDark Originally by: King Gore Originally by: ImmutableDark RABBLE RABBLE.. and is 100% likely to get primaried...RABBLE RABBLE It's primary for a reason. A bad reason it sucks damn. How many scorpions do you fly I'm guessing about none? I'm pretty sure that every pilot in eve is like hey guys I want a 0 dps innefectual battleship that dies all the time because people think it's better than it is. You are bad and you should feel bad. ------------------------------------------ Jack Blackstone > Dimitryy I hope you die.
heheheh Phoenix Club	Posted - 2010.12.20 13:30:00 - [22] This is what happens when you copy random fits from Battleclinic
ImmutableDark	Posted - 2010.12.21 02:01:00 - [23] I'm pretty sure I'm the only scorpion pilot here.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.12.21 02:50:00 - [24] Originally by: ImmutableDark I'm pretty sure I'm the only terrible scorpion pilot here. fixed that for you. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2010.12.21 03:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: ImmutableDark I'm pretty sure I'm the only terrible scorpion pilot here. fixed that for you. That fit makes me a sad panda.
Aiwha Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.21 03:40:00 - [26] Originally by: ImmutableDark I'm pretty sure I'm the only scorpion pilot here. I fly scorpion. Scorpion is not broken. Gullible
ImmutableDark	Posted - 2010.12.21 12:02:00 - [27] Edited by: ImmutableDark on 21/12/2010 12:05:57 Originally by: Aiwha Originally by: ImmutableDark I'm pretty sure I'm the only scorpion pilot here. I fly scorpion. Scorpion is not broken. Battleclinic says you're a drake/ferox/onyx pilot. GTFO Known ships of the last 3 months Ship Fittings kills with lost 2010-12 Onyx Unknown 2 0 2010-11 Drake Unknown 1 0 2010-10 Onyx 1x, 4 1 Drake Unknown 2 0 2010-09 Drake 1x, 2 1 Ferox Unknown 2 0 Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Aiwha#ixzz18kMzkwoZ If you had flown a scorpion in the last 3 months I'm 100% sure you would have lost it. In fact there is no record of you ever losing a scorpion... clearly as far as I am concerned you're a damn liar.
FACLON ALT	Posted - 2010.12.21 15:32:00 - [28] Originally by: heheheh OP is very stupid
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2010.12.21 17:34:00 - [29] Originally by: ImmutableDark Edited by: ImmutableDark on 21/12/2010 12:05:57 Originally by: Aiwha Originally by: ImmutableDark I'm pretty sure I'm the only scorpion pilot here. I fly scorpion. Scorpion is not broken. Battleclinic says you're a drake/ferox/onyx pilot. GTFO Known ships of the last 3 months Ship Fittings kills with lost 2010-12 Onyx Unknown 2 0 2010-11 Drake Unknown 1 0 2010-10 Onyx 1x, 4 1 Drake Unknown 2 0 2010-09 Drake 1x, 2 1 Ferox Unknown 2 0 Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Aiwha#ixzz18kMzkwoZ If you had flown a scorpion in the last 3 months I'm 100% sure you would have lost it. In fact there is no record of you ever losing a scorpion... clearly as far as I am concerned you're a damn liar. lolbattleclinic. I own two RRBS scorpions, never lost one. Unfortunately, nobody's showed up to fight one of our RRBS fleets yet. :( Again, ur doin it wrong if you're loosing scorps solo, because the scorp is not a solo ship. In fact, few BS's are very good solo, frigate gangs will rip you to pieces. Gullible
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2010.12.21 23:06:00 - [30] Originally by: ImmutableDark In fact there is no record of you ever losing a scorpion This clearly proves he is a terrible Scorpion pilot. Oh wait, I meant the other thing.

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