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Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.14 06:45:00 -
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Cool, why not give all ships from all races big drone bays so that Gallente loses it's only special thing it had left.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1048
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Posted - 2012.08.14 07:37:00 -
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St Mio wrote:
Also for shield tanking these frigs, you're looking at a mid for your AB, and two for your Codebreaker/Analyzer. This means only the Heron can really fit a (one slot!) shield tank.
Unfortunately one mid slot is currently all that is needed to get an overpowered active shield tank.
Ban ASBs, give the Heron one more mid.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1051
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:15:00 -
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I seriously disagree with the idea that these frigs should be limited to hisec. It's vital for EVE to do every little thing possible to encourage new players to leave the hisec starter systems as early as possibly, and out there you want a cloak on exploration vessels.
Not being able to fit the exploration hislot trio of cloak, probes and salvager seriously limits the usability of Imicus and Helios for exploration. Please reconsider this.
CCP Fozzie wrote:
I also do not believe that ships like these detract from the power or usefulness of the Gallente race in any way. Gallente remain the masters of drones, with Amarr and Minmatar behind them and Caldari in the rear. Introducing ships with unbonused light drones for each faction does not take anything away from the Gallente race, and all of you Gallente drone purists are going to have something to cheer about in my next frigate balance thread, I promise.
The problem in giving all ships drones and still claiming that Gallente are the "drone masters" is the fact that at best this mastery is only evidenced by 50% more dps and HP on the same set of combat drones, on a few selected ships.
Flight of Warrior IIs on Cane: 80.4 dps, Myrmidon 121 dps.
In case of all other drones, Gallente ships are (for some reason) treated just like all other ships, ECM drones work just well on all ships- except that the so-called drone boats lose much more dps than the other ships when using EWAR drones.
So why not re-establish the drone mastery, and extend the drone dmg bonus to cover all types of drone effects?
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1051
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:41:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:
What the hell are you complaining about?
It can't fit all the modules needed in lowsec exploration, making it the worst choice.
Before the buff it was superior in combat abilities because of drones, now the rest get the same advantages but can fit all the modules.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1051
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:42:00 -
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Alticus C Bear wrote: cap reduction bonus for local tanks may help new players manage exploration sites better without making them overpowered for PVP.
DCUII+SARII is plenty enough for beginner sites, and there is no need to permarun it.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1051
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:20:00 -
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No ship in this game should be meant for hisec only, what kind of idea that even is?
The cloak certainly is the module that is fitted on all probing ships used outside the starter systems. This means that the Imicus must do without a salvager, a module which would benefit new players in their ISK-gathering ventures.
It doesn't need four mid slots, it needs a third high. Just like the Helios. The other ships are not down a slot, they all have the same amount. Just better slot layouts, allowing them to fit all modules needed for running profession sites.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1058
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Posted - 2012.08.16 08:26:00 -
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Thanks for adding the 3rd hi on the Imicus, now Gallente noobs can also enjoy the rewards and excitement of lowsec exploration, and not having to refit for mags <3
For me, cloak was the single module that opened EVE to me. Fitted on my Imicus, it allowed me to learn the mechanics of lowsec survival, dscan and probing in relative safety.
If noobs in NPC corps learn that they can actually go to lowsec and do stuff there, get rich and have big time fun while doing that, we have hope that the hisec-infested culture in NPC corps starts giving in to the more adventurous and rewarding lifestyle of non-CONCORD space.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:14:00 -
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Drone ships don't become obsolete just because you have to pay more attention to drones. I've always deployed drones before "pulling agro" to save time, and rat aggro being deadly to drones is greatly exaggerated. (WHs, low/null exploration, L4s) Small drones take long time to lock, are hard to hit, and large ones have lots of HP. And of course, you have spares in the drone bay.
Anyway, looking forward to these new frigs - Heron, Imicus and Probe will be superb cancrackers, substituting our dessies and covopses in wh profession sites.
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