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Melodee619
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.14 12:07:00 -
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Ok so the people that need/want to know, prolly know this already but who cares :).
Agel near Heorah has 12 macks an 3 orca's Tolle has 10-15 macks an 4 Orca's.
Speaking of Heorah, it is NEVER hit by gankers, an miners here are very lax about protecting themselves. I am just touring around tonight marking off all the bot operations, an figured what better way to make miners lives hard. |

Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
637
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Posted - 2012.08.14 12:08:00 -
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Melodee619 wrote:Ok so the people that need/want to know, prolly know this already but who cares :).
Agel near Heorah has 12 macks an 3 orca's Tolle has 10-15 macks an 4 Orca's.
Speaking of Heorah, it is NEVER hit by gankers, an miners here are very lax about protecting themselves. I am just touring around tonight marking off all the bot operations, an figured what better way to make miners lives hard. what proof and evidence do you have to back up these assumptions? The Like button is over there --> and up a lil bit. <3 |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
630
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Posted - 2012.08.14 12:14:00 -
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Her trick knee, tells her. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |

Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
141
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Posted - 2012.08.14 12:15:00 -
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Didjewno that ice miners are often AFK for many minutes at a time as mining ice is solo crushingly bland?
Knowledge is power!
edit: Also, you may get a response more inline with your intentions if you move this to C&P. The great Ganker War of 2012 was won by the carebears, and as a result the ruling class of GD are all miners. |

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
597
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Posted - 2012.08.14 12:19:00 -
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Posting in a thread where the OP is most likely an alt of an ice miner trying to get others to clear out the competition. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |

Peter Raptor
X-Exclusion-X
275
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Posted - 2012.08.14 12:19:00 -
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If you ice mine while at keyboard, you're doing it wrong. Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
637
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Posted - 2012.08.14 12:20:00 -
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Sarik Olecar wrote:Didjewno that ice miners are often AFK for many minutes at a time as mining ice is solo crushingly bland?
Knowledge is power!
edit: Also, you may get a response more inline with your intentions if you move this to C&P. The great Ganker War of 2012 was won by the carebears, and as a result the ruling class of GD are all miners. I disagree. we mostly sit under bridges and have funny hair. The Like button is over there --> and up a lil bit. <3 |

Melodee619
The Scope Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.08.14 12:25:00 -
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Virgil Travis wrote:Posting in a thread where the OP is most likely an alt of an ice miner trying to get others to clear out the competition.
Firstly, I am not an Alt, Secondly, I have more self respect than to mine. Third, Miners are fun to kill because they send you death threats.
My original char was called Zill so I dont need to hide. |

Melodee619
The Scope Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.08.14 12:27:00 -
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Sarik Olecar wrote:Didjewno that ice miners are often AFK for many minutes at a time as mining ice is solo crushingly bland?
Knowledge is power!
edit: Also, you may get a response more inline with your intentions if you move this to C&P. The great Ganker War of 2012 was won by the carebears, and as a result the ruling class of GD are all miners.
I wasn't looking for a"response" as such, just bored while sitting waiting in a belt.
edit C&P is even worse than general... an thats saying something. I usually stay out of there. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1039
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:15:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Her trick knee, tells her.
She used to be a miner too, but she took some veldspar to the knee?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
177
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:28:00 -
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Almost all players are obesesed about mining bots, i know we got a lot people who use ilegal programs like in every other mmo, but come on stop panic, here a lot people who mining afk for multiple reasons, here a lot mature people who love to mining, but hey somtime afk because of family, job etc, stop panic people we are just humans stop mention every miner...
CCP are responsible for true bots not we! they work they get money form thier work, some of CCP members tracking them,Stop panic and do your job ! Enjoy game, you pay monthly fee, stop care about them. Teemo for president. |

highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
209
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:32:00 -
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Sarik Olecar wrote:Didjewno that ice miners are often AFK for many minutes at a time as mining ice is solo crushingly bland?
Knowledge is power!
edit: Also, you may get a response more inline with your intentions if you move this to C&P. The great Ganker War of 2012 was won by the carebears, and as a result the ruling class of GD are all miners.
Seriously? You believe that?
Just because the miners cry the most in GD section, doesn't mean you won some "war" or that you somehow are the upper class of the GD section. If anything, the rest of the EVE community laughs at all the carebear tears in this section and come to dogpile.
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya |

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
597
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:42:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Her trick knee, tells her.
Did she take an arrow in it?
Sarik Olecar wrote:edit: Also, you may get a response more inline with your intentions if you move this to C&P. The great Ganker War of 2012 was won by the carebears, and as a result the ruling class of GD are all miners.
They just whine the most in here, even when the mining ships get buffed. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |

mulgrew Malukker
Essential Research
0
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:44:00 -
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if you guys want to see a bot mining then please visit Kino system ive been ice mining there for the last few days with my alts ( (3 macks and an orca ) and i dont use a bot or any program its easy enough mining like that ) but there is a guy in there who runs 2 fleets of 40+ retrieves in the ice belts fairly easy to spot as he has numbers in all the alt names or just sit in the belt and wait for them all to warp in . but there is botting and there is just taking the **** as this guy does, Imho all bots should get popped it would be nice if ccp did something about it but as of yet they havent answered any1 from the kino system and many people have reported this guy including me but as of yet no answer ???? |

Yui Okane-Mochi
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:50:00 -
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Ice mining with 8 skiffs, 2 Orcas and a Vulture (shield/armor/skirmish boosts).
I am happy mining 480 odd blocks an hour with the crew burning around roids like flies buzzing around steaming poo at 700ms
Practically bump and gank proof. Only need to tractor 8 cans every 14 mins or so.
The perfect thing to do whilst catching up on a years worth of anime and j dramas. Attention free mining at its best.
Thanks CCP.
t¦ÉFíú |

Satea Marsh
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:21:00 -
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melodee isn't an alt in the sense you mean, that is, a disposable, throw away alt. Melodee does misrepresent his real identity though. This particular character has been used in several infiltration operations. |

Vin Fell
Solaris Project Border World Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:22:00 -
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Mulgrew is correct in that post above. In Kino there is definitly someone using a 40+ Retriever Bot-army.. They are all in Science and Trade institute NPC corp. They all have random Eve Generated names with a number in the first name. And they all warp-in and Warp-out out at exactly the same time. Undock at exactly the same time. They have single-handedly ruined the Ice prices in the system and surrounding areas. I have petitioned them and bot-reported each and every one and the CCP GM's have responded saying they will look into the matter. Unfortunately I think it's a little too late now. :( |

Jason Xado
Xado Industries
8
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:32:00 -
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Please do not confuse multiboxing with botting. I see a lot of people throw out the "botting" claim when really all is happening is multiboxing.
Just my two cents. |

Jason Xado
Xado Industries
8
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:35:00 -
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Vin Fell wrote:Mulgrew is correct in that post above. In Kino there is definitly someone using a 40+ Retriever Bot-army.. They are all in Science and Trade institute NPC corp. They all have random Eve Generated names with a number in the first name. And they all warp-in and Warp-out out at exactly the same time. Undock at exactly the same time. They have single-handedly ruined the Ice prices in the system and surrounding areas. I have petitioned them and bot-reported each and every one and the CCP GM's have responded saying they will look into the matter. Unfortunately I think it's a little too late now. :(
1.) Being in an NPC corp is not evidence of botting. 2.) Randomly generated names is not evidence of botting. 3.) Warping, docking, and undocking at the same time is not evidence of botting, can be easily done with approved applications such as ISBoxer.
I'm not saying it isn't a bot, just that the behavior you are describing can also be attributed to multiboxing. |

Yui Okane-Mochi
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:36:00 -
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Multiboxing 40 will be nightmarish. 11 is hard enough.
It would be possible to do so pretty easily with ISBoxer tho. I use that to control 8 miners on one high spec PC whilst the orca and command ship toons run off a different, less well endowed machine.
t¦ÉFíú
Edit:pÇÇThat said putting numbers in the first name field is.... bottish. You'd think a role player would give more thought to the name that will stick with him or her forever... |

Jason Xado
Xado Industries
8
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:38:00 -
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Yui Okane-Mochi wrote:Multiboxing 40 will be nightmarish.
Multiboxing 40 ice miners with ISBOxer is almost as easy as running a single ice miner. You just need the hardware to support the clients. I can currently run 12 accounts on one box without any drop in performace, with low graphic settings.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1839
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:43:00 -
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Yui Okane-Mochi wrote:Ice mining with 8 skiffs, 2 Orcas and a Vulture (shield/armor/skirmish boosts).
I am happy mining 480 odd blocks an hour with the crew burning around roids like flies buzzing around steaming poo at 700ms
Practically bump and gank proof. Only need to tractor 8 cans every 14 mins or so.
The perfect thing to do whilst catching up on a years worth of anime and j dramas. Attention free mining at its best.
Thanks CCP.
t¦ÉFíú
How does that setup make you bump proof? Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Yui Okane-Mochi
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:44:00 -
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Jason Xado wrote:Yui Okane-Mochi wrote:Multiboxing 40 will be nightmarish. Multiboxing 40 ice miners with ISBOxer is almost as easy as running a single ice miner. You just need the hardware to support the clients. I can currently run 12 accounts on one box without any drop in performace, with low graphic settings.
No issues with RAM? I have 16GB on the 8 client box. Running 9 causes memory warnings. 10 makes stuff crash on undock (not fun!)
Granted, settings are far from low. I do like some eye candy.
t¦ÉFíú |

James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2353
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:47:00 -
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Wouldn't it be easier to list systems where there ISN'T botting going on? 
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½The daily saga of one man's quest to bring civilization to highsec by bumping miners out of range. |

Jason Xado
Xado Industries
8
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:48:00 -
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Yui Okane-Mochi wrote:Jason Xado wrote:Yui Okane-Mochi wrote:Multiboxing 40 will be nightmarish. Multiboxing 40 ice miners with ISBOxer is almost as easy as running a single ice miner. You just need the hardware to support the clients. I can currently run 12 accounts on one box without any drop in performace, with low graphic settings. No issues with RAM? I have 16GB on the 8 client box. Running 9 causes memory warnings. 10 makes stuff crash on undock (not fun!) Granted, settings are far from low. I do like some eye candy. t¦ÉFíú
No issues at all with only 8GB of RAM. You would be amazed the difference if you turn all your graphics settings to minimum. Just having one client with high graphics will start impacting performance. I'm hoping to get more on one box, but I'm only up to 12 accounts so far. |

KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:48:00 -
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At OP - good luck with getting anything done. CCP only does something once a year. Check back in 6 months.
Besides - the EVE economy would be a lot better if the trader bots were nailed first anyways. Just like in RL - automation is killing the markets. |

Yui Okane-Mochi
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:50:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Yui Okane-Mochi wrote:Ice mining with 8 skiffs, 2 Orcas and a Vulture (shield/armor/skirmish boosts).
I am happy mining 480 odd blocks an hour with the crew burning around roids like flies buzzing around steaming poo at 700ms
Practically bump and gank proof. Only need to tractor 8 cans every 14 mins or so.
The perfect thing to do whilst catching up on a years worth of anime and j dramas. Attention free mining at its best.
Thanks CCP.
t¦ÉFíú How does that setup make you bump proof?
10MN Afterburning skiff returns to the roid pretty quick if hit since it is orbiting at 12km. Tested with a mach bump. With bad luck/timing the ice harvester could get disengaged... but that's why there are 8 skiffs. That I am watching stuff on the next screen means a lost lock is quickly fixed.
I'm no pro bumper but it took me a lot of tries to bump one of the buzzing flies.
t¦ÉFíú
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Ensign X
73
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Posted - 2012.08.14 15:29:00 -
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This thread clearly demonstrates some of the problems with player-based bot-reporting. People who can't tell the difference between a legal program like ISBoxer and actual Botting behavior, reporting of Bots with NO effort to gather or provide intelligence or evidence and the misinformed such as the "King of all Highsec" James 315 thinking that somehow bots outnumber active players and spreading that misinformation to the ignorant masses. I have no doubt CCP takes bot reporting very seriously, but they can't be blamed for ignoring most of the reports considering who it is making them and the likelihood that most of the reports are straight up false. |

Jason Xado
Xado Industries
10
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Posted - 2012.08.14 15:32:00 -
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Yui Okane-Mochi wrote: That said putting numbers in the first name field is.... bottish. You'd think a role player would give more thought to the name that will stick with him or her forever...
All my alts just get a number. I tried refering them by name once and it just went to their heads. It is best to keep the worker class humble so they know their lot in the world :-) |

Sphit Ker
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
112
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Posted - 2012.08.14 15:34:00 -
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All the bots hang out in Chamemi. There are so many belts, hiding in the open is like pancake, really. |
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