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Kaahles Fulcrum Weapon Systems Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.30 18:51:00 - [1] TL;DR need new headset with robust (thick spiral) cables (preferably replaceable). Wireless isn't an option so far (battery lifetime). Epic wall of text following: Why are headset cables usually so extremely **ty? My current one just died, after all not really unexpected since it's over a year old. Every 12-18 months I run into the same problem with my headsets. After a while the cable starts to twist and eventually breaks due to material fatigue. Over the years I tried several different models / manufacturers but somehow they all seem to use the most inexpensive and thus sub-par quality cables. At least in the 20-70 EUR price range and quite frankly I'm not ready to throw 200 bucks at the manufacturers for a headset which at least from the looks of it has nor really a better solution in the matters of cables. Wireless is not an option. Mostly due to much higher cost for similar sound quality and battery life time. I don't use my headsets for teamspeak only. I listen to music and watch movies with it so sound quality is important to me in that matter and at times I have that thing on my ears all day long while listening to music while doing stuff. 6 hours battery lifetime doesn't cut it there. I explored an alternative by looking for headsets which feature spiral cables, those that usually come with every decent stereo headphones in the 50-70 EUR price range (and a 6,3mm jack instead of 3,5mm but that isn't an issue). Best case scenario, those cables would be attached to the headset via a standard jack themselves so if they break, you can switch them. Big surprise there. Everything I could find so far where headsets for professional applications in radio/TV broadcast and aviation. Let's not talk about the price here... it's no fun although if I could ** money I'd buy one of those. At least if I break them I know that I should NOT use headsets under any circumstances. So the question is: Any of you guys there know some nice headset for 100 EUR max that has one or both of those features? Stereo would suffice btw I don't care for 5.1 headsets. If I want a surround sound experience I use my sound system. I also though about just buying a decent stereo headphone. I believe that I can get much better sound quality there for my money. In addition they usually come with changeable cables and robust spiral cables. Problem there: Teamspeak and other voice comms. Any suggestions on desk microphones or not too expensive bluetooth mics. Good speech quality and the usual noise suppression required. ----------------------------- OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! Contract me all your stuff so I can save it!

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:05:00 - [2] Headset cables are the worst things ever. I'm currently in the market myself as the wire for my left channel is going out unless I hold the wire just right. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us

Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:41:00 - [3] I discovered something worse actually: headsets with cables that don't work without batteries - for Ç259 or so. Bose QuietComfort 15 noise cancelling headphones ... (the noise cancelling is great but you'd expect them to work without noise cancelling when the battery is empty - nope!) How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Ron Sturgeon	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:59:00 - [4] There was a thread about headsets not long ago: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1436003 Someone suggested the Yihao headset which has a nylon cord. It costs less than 10 dollars so you won't lose much by trying them.
F0rum Tr0ll Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:06:00 - [5] It would seem these days the only way to win is with cheap throw away units. I used to buy the 100 dollar headsets and they died just as fast as my 13 dollar headphones. They don't make these headsets to last at all it seems, doesn't surprise me since there is hardly a market for them besides gamers. ----------------------------------- They see me trollin...
Vogue Skynet Nexus	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:15:00 - [6] I have got through 2 pairs of Plantronics DSP 550 headphones. Great sound quality but they in turn both broke. I now have a naff Logitech ú28 wired headset that no doubt will last ages. .................................................. One man with courage is a majority
Kaahles Fulcrum Weapon Systems Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:41:00 - [7] Oh there are some headsets that are made to last but you don't want to know what you've got to pay for them. Anyhow my favorite currently is going with a normal stereo headphone. Better sound quality and higher life expectancy. But yeah... what about voice comms then. It's a real *****. Either spend a fortune and get something nice or stick with the crappy stuff and spent a fortune over the years. About the Yihao: The seemingly cheap/crappy stuff sometimes really surprises in terms of lifetime. The thing is how does it look on side of sound quality? As I said above that's important to me (not "I need a 300 buck thingy"-important but it should be comparable to a decent stereo headphone for under 100) not only bass but all ranges across the board should be pretty decent and in a good balance. Maybe that's just me, maybe I'm crazy. I should give McGyver a call bet he solved that problem in no-time by jury rigging chewing gum, duct tape and a bit of copper wiring into the most awesome headset on the planet ----------------------------- OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! Contract me all your stuff so I can save it!
Ron Sturgeon	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:49:00 - [8] Originally by: Kaahles About the Yihao: The seemingly cheap/crappy stuff sometimes really surprises in terms of lifetime. The thing is how does it look on side of sound quality? I haven't used them, but people on dealextreme say that it has good bass but the high frequencies are not too shabby.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:58:00 - [9] I have used these for years and years and they still work and sound great. http://www.cyberacoustics.com/retail/Headsets/AC-401 Ignore the suggested retail price as you can get them for less at a normal store or online.
Triple Entendre	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:54:00 - [10] Edited by: Triple Entendre on 30/12/2010 21:56:11 The Trust GXT 10 headset has good sound quality on both mic and headphones and they're fairly cheap too. There's a bonus in that the cable is thicker than many I've seen, and has put up with over a year of my incessant, habit-driven chewing on it. While the headphones have a very good range, especially for the price, the output seems to slightly focus on bass and cut the mid-range slightly. Not a bad thing at all for gaming or listening to music, but it means I have to swap them for something else when working on tracks. And I'm lazy. Originally by: CCP Zulu You're assuming I read threads before I turdpost in them :)

defiler Mad Hermit Wayward Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.30 22:10:00 - [11] Don't mean to hijack this thread (though in all honesty I wouldn't mind (consider it a birthday present (yes, really (I also like nesting parentheses (but no, I don't code LISP))))), but does anyone know if there are any good add-on mics for regular headphones? (SH HD650 in my case) A clever and comfy DIY solution would work as well just as long as it doesn't damage the cans, these things are pretty expensive... I've seen and tested various mics that you clip onto the cord, but in my experience the sound quality suffers since they end up so far from your mouth. (notify) Lurking Device II is already ForumLurking.
Citizen20100211442 Minmatar Carebear Evolution White Angels.	Posted - 2010.12.30 22:24:00 - [12] Just dont buy cheap headsets, and it will be fine. Look at those for 70+ euros for
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2010.12.30 22:43:00 - [13] Originally by: Citizen20100211442 Just dont buy cheap headsets, and it will be fine. Look at those for 70+ euros for o rly? then look at this picture on amazon.de ... (Ç99 headset). How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Kaahles Fulcrum Weapon Systems Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.30 23:38:00 - [14] Originally by: defiler Don't mean to hijack this thread (though in all honesty I wouldn't mind (consider it a birthday present (yes, really (I also like nesting parentheses (but no, I don't code LISP))))), but does anyone know if there are any good add-on mics for regular headphones? (SH HD650 in my case) A clever and comfy DIY solution would work as well just as long as it doesn't damage the cans, these things are pretty expensive... I've seen and tested various mics that you clip onto the cord, but in my experience the sound quality suffers since they end up so far from your mouth. Not really a thread hijacking since I consider buying some nice stereo headphones (they seem work out better for what I'm looking for so far) + desk or add-on mic as an alternative. I read a lot of good stuff about that USB desk microphone from logitech. But I don't really like those things. They look so stupid and I got way to much stuff on my desk as it is already. ----------------------------- OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! Contract me all your stuff so I can save it!
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2010.12.30 23:42:00 - [15] Edited by: Pan Crastus on 30/12/2010 23:42:33 Originally by: Kaahles [ I read a lot of good stuff about that USB desk microphone from logitech. But I don't really like those things. They look so stupid and I got way to much stuff on my desk as it is already. I wouldn't buy any of those cheap PC plastic crap brands when looking for quality audio equipment to be honest... I have an Audio Technica AT2020 USB microphone (Ç99) and it rocks. It's also heavy enough to beat a burglar's head to a pulp with, real quality stuff. ;-P How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Taedrin Gallente The Green Cross Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.12.31 01:17:00 - [16] I actually had a similar problem to you. I had bought a headset, and the wire got damaged in less than a year. This resulted in the right earpiece losing sound. I know this isn't what you are asking for, but I now use these. I've been using them for a few years now, and the cable is still holding strong. The only problem I have is that a few months ago, the fuzzy thing on the microphone tore a hole in it, and sometimes falls off now. Hardly critical to it's operation. I'm amazed that I haven't lost it yet, though. The sound quality is still amazing for the price (50 USD, so that's about... 40 Euros?) Judging by your post, though, you can't use newegg due to not living in the US. It shouldn't be TOO hard to find one of these though. And if you can't, I think there's a service out there that lets you ship an item to a US P.O. box, and they ship it internationally when they receive it. ---------- Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident" Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
Grez Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2010.12.31 03:15:00 - [17] Steelseries Sibera comes with an extension cord. Very useful, and helps route some of the cabling so it's protected. ---
Kill Rockstar	Posted - 2010.12.31 03:52:00 - [18] I totally agree with you about the ****ty quality of headphone cables... After breaking the cable on my rather expensive headphones and feeling the sting of having to buy a new pair at the same price rather than downgrading, I now Gaffa/Duck tape around the jacks and where the cable enters the earpiece is also reinforced in the same fashion. Now it doesn't matter when I shoot up out of my chair forgetting the headphones are on my head! \o/ If your neat it can be hardly noticeable and is super effective and kind on your wallet. Unless your problem is that your cable is breaking in the middle rather than at the jacks/usb or earpieces. In that case unplug and untwist them once in a while?
Khors Amtek Inc	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:59:00 - [19] AKG makes nice headphones with detachable cable (at both ends), however it's not really a headseat, so you'd need a seperate mic.
Freyus Bargem Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:23:00 - [20] Razer Carcharias Got a pair of these 3 week ago and they truly are the dogs dangly bits Awesome sound quality and cannot see you have any of the problems you listed in your post with a pair of these.

Jhagiti Tyran	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:43:00 - [21] I have had nothing but problems with headsets and after trying various expensive and shiny things the most robust ones have been Microsoft's LifeChat LX-3000. They where fairly cheap at less than ú30 and have so far lasted a lot longer than other headsets, sound and mic quality is about average but the bass is deep and clear so for the money they are definitely worth it unless you have a good quality sound card because it uses a USB and comes with built in software.
Dray Caldari Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:21:00 - [22] Cables have always been an issue for me, but more for twisting then wear, but good cabling is the issue and so far the best I've come across is Steelseries. I've been a gamer a long time, too long if you listen to my wife, but I'm a painfully practical person so what I buy has to do exactly what it's supposed to, I don't mind paying a little extra if I feel it's worth it, I cannot see me buying another headset that isn't Steelseries, and tbh if this current headset is anything to go by it won't be far a good while. I've had Creative, Logitech, Sennheiser, Razer, and Microsoft to name a few, this current Steelseries 5H V2 set is over 2 years old and going strong and that's the best life I've had from a headset for my PC to date as well as the most comfortable I've had, better than my Sennheiser and they were very comfortable. They may not have the best music playback quality but the set I bought was marketed as a gaming headset not audiophile so it's not really a problem and the cabling has a woven cloth cover which is great for wear and twisting. I could go on but it's starting to sound like a gushing marketing plug.
Edgar Berberos	Posted - 2011.01.01 04:23:00 - [23] Edited by: Edgar Berberos on 01/01/2011 04:25:05 Can relate here. Only right speaker working and it's a pain to listen these leftist songs with it. Point: pay more, get more.
Brujo Loco Amarr Brujeria Teologica	Posted - 2011.01.01 21:44:00 - [24] Some of them below 200$ and trust me, they rugged enough for your needs. http://www.ruggedradios.com/ Also, you can check out the old and used part of Ebay to buy old Racing/aviation headsets. If you manage to find some from the 70's or 80's , when cable coating was made to withstand severe punishment, you could refurbish them to your current needs. If you also feel your headset wiring is weak, do as some of my old venezuelan dj's friends did, since Venezuela has crap dollar and import regulations, you usually buy imported stuff and try to keep it alive as long as possible, try to buy a solid headphone, then COAT the wiring in Sleeves . This will avoid them breaking to them constantly coiling themselves. Some guys I knew instead of sleeves, since they were poor, coated them in black isolating tape, which was cheaper and easier to get than sleeves. Those headphones/headsets were practically waterproof . As a sidenote, I built a set of specific headphones (the extra mike to make it a headset is easily modded) using spare parts from an old electronics store. Ideally, since a lot of the small speakers in the headphones are usually the same within a certain price range, the only thing that would make them better was how well you managed to place the isolating foamy ring that covers your ear. Custom making those was relatively easy, since the foam was ez to get and the fake leather coat over it is ez to get as well in most stores dedicated to textiles. I could even custom make them for you If I was back in Venezuela, as the culture there is predominatly of maintenance instead of renewal since it's almost impossible to import things to the average person, so you need to make stuff last way longer than their regular lifetime expectancy. Even the spare parts from your previous headsets could make it able for you to create a new completely customized set for your head proportions. It's not rocket science, just good handwork, soldiering work, glue and silicone useage and a simple understanding of how the 1/8 mike needs to be coated, and recognizing good quality 1/8 jacks. Friend of mine used to coat his with a small silver lining, since silver is ez to melt from cheap jewelry, but he had a nice small working setup as he was a jeweller. He once custom made an awesome wiring set of silver threads (excellent conductor for small things, like headphones) for a very delicate pair of small headphones. Since he was unable to replicate the 1/8 jack he just coated it in silver too. A gift to one of his daughters. They worked perfectly, and I helped him assemble the small headspeakers. Our only problem was soldiering the silver threads to the headphones. We had to clear the material several times and it was a bit of pain. Was fun tho. good times --- Viva VENEZUELA!!! Archipelago Theory
Kaahles Fulcrum Weapon Systems Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.03 09:03:00 - [25] Originally by: Taedrin [...] I know this isn't what you are asking for, but I now use these. I've been using them for a few years now, and the cable is still holding strong. [...] The sound quality is still amazing for the price (50 USD, so that's about... 40 Euros?) Judging by your post, though, you can't use newegg due to not living in the US. It shouldn't be TOO hard to find one of these though. And if you can't, I think there's a service out there that lets you ship an item to a US P.O. box, and they ship it internationally when they receive it. If it keeps holding together it's a plus. How are the cables exactly? Those extremely "bare minimum" thingy or are they more comparable to a good mouse cord from thickness? Might be an option to consider. 50 USD / 40 EUR roughly yeah. But sometimes the bastards just change the currency and not the amount accordingly but considering what I'd have to pay to customs when I import from the US it usually is still cheaper to buy somewhere in Europe to begin with. Not an issue at all, we don't have newegg but something similar called alternate. They also sell you everything that has something to do with computers and then some. Originally by: Khors AKG makes nice headphones with detachable cable (at both ends), however it's not really a headseat, so you'd need a seperate mic. Just checked out some of those and I must say some of them are real nice stuff. Think I'll go to a local audio store were I can actually test some of those. If they turn out to be really good I think I'll go that way. Originally by: Dray steelseries stuff Another option I'm going to check out sometime this week. Sounds good so far, never tried any of those so far. Originally by: Brujo Loco stuff about modifying headsets I just say what everyone else was thinking here: McGyver can suck it dude ;) ----------------------------- OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! Contract me all your stuff so I can save it!
Vantlor Gallente Scrap Iron Flotilla	Posted - 2011.01.04 04:54:00 - [26] Edited by: Vantlor on 04/01/2011 04:57:30 Edited by: Vantlor on 04/01/2011 04:57:13 G35: Newegg G35 Great heavy duty cable and is USB so no worries about your onboard fail card (not that they are bad...) G930: Newegg G930 Wireless! Atleast till the battery dies, but it lasts forever even when talking and with the volume up. I own both and love both and use both on a daily basis (wireless to work with me in my laptop bag etc and wired at home on desktop unless I roam the house listening to music on the wireles!). Expensive yes but the convenience of USB and either an awesome cable or NO cable rocks!
Taedrin Gallente The Green Cross Sev3rance	Posted - 2011.01.04 21:27:00 - [27] Originally by: Kaahles Originally by: Taedrin [...] I know this isn't what you are asking for, but I now use these. I've been using them for a few years now, and the cable is still holding strong. [...] The sound quality is still amazing for the price (50 USD, so that's about... 40 Euros?) Judging by your post, though, you can't use newegg due to not living in the US. It shouldn't be TOO hard to find one of these though. And if you can't, I think there's a service out there that lets you ship an item to a US P.O. box, and they ship it internationally when they receive it. If it keeps holding together it's a plus. How are the cables exactly? Those extremely "bare minimum" thingy or are they more comparable to a good mouse cord from thickness? Might be an option to consider. 50 USD / 40 EUR roughly yeah. But sometimes the bastards just change the currency and not the amount accordingly but considering what I'd have to pay to customs when I import from the US it usually is still cheaper to buy somewhere in Europe to begin with. Not an issue at all, we don't have newegg but something similar called alternate. They also sell you everything that has something to do with computers and then some. The cables outwardly appear to be average. The only reason why I vouch for them is that they haven't failed on me yet, and I have frequently abused them by forgetting that I'm wearing them when I walk away from my computer. I could just be very lucky though, I guess. If you are a normal user, and don't do strange things like regularly and intentionally put them through stressful situations I would guess that they would do fine. Another thing to consider is that if this happens to your headsets regularly is that you might be treating them wrong - for example coiling them up incorrectly such that it damages the cords over time. ---------- Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident" Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
Frozen 5ky	Posted - 2011.01.04 21:53:00 - [28] Sennheiser make good headsets. Mine has been in service for 4 or 5 years now. If you buy a USB headset, make sure it allows you to unplug the USB part and plug the headset into your sound card with a standard analog connector. Otherwise, your rage against cables might move on to USB soundcards...
Harrigan VonStudly Original Sin.	Posted - 2011.01.07 00:04:00 - [29] Originally by: Freyus Bargem Razer Carcharias Got a pair of these 3 week ago and they truly are the dogs dangly bits Awesome sound quality and cannot see you have any of the problems you listed in your post with a pair of these. Using these as well. Can wear them for hours without soreness to the ears. They fit over the ears. Great sound, great quality. The mic freq response is a range that you want as well. They're hard to beat. And the cord is heavy duty.
Carniflex StarHunt R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.01.07 10:58:00 - [30] G35 that was suggested is pretty solid piece. Mine is ticking second or .. umm .. dunno perhaps even third year by now. Only problem is that the soft pad things that go around your ears, that leathery crap is peeling off and it's not replaceable. Cable is very solid. I carry them with me every day and wear them daily for ~10h per day.



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