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Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.31 23:54:00 - [1] CCP Starship contest is an amateur piece of rubbish. They have failed to include many ships, as far as I can tell from people wondering why on Earth their submission have not been included (and seem to go with the rules, and still look good)... I have noticed that some submissions that are up for voting on don't even follow the rules! One doesn't even have the length of the ship on the presentation - another (and please correct me if I'm wrong) displays a racial logo. So, the rules have not been followed when uploading ships - so I want to know every other persons ship & mine have not been included. If it is your website mechanics that failed (uploading possibly because of size, even though I uploaded 3 different versions, one size being less than 1 MB) then upload my ship from the link I just provided or from the petition I just sent you. I don't care if the competition is already in progress - its principle now - put it up and any one elses you have failed to do right by. Your failure to do the right thing by your customers has shown your true nature as a company that can not be trusted. I still can't believe how badly run this contest has been. Waiting for a reply either here on this forum topic (which would help to inform everyone else in the situation) or via email. Thank you for your time --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Zangorus	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:06:00 - [2] Looks like **** tbh. Don't be so mad cause u didnt win
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:19:00 - [3] Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 01/01/2011 00:22:20 Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 01/01/2011 00:21:03 Originally by: Zangorus Looks like **** tbh. Don't be so mad cause u didnt win wtf? You CCP? If you are post as CCP! Didn't win? there isn't a winner yet, all the ships up there are the submissions, not the semi finalists... do you get it? Heaps of ships haven't got in, and the reasons are questionable... ffs - read my post first. I don't care if my ship looks like some form of Caldari turd - as far as I undestand it - it follows the rules and should have been submitted with many others. Go be a shill somewhere else! --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:28:00 - [4] Edited by: Captain Megadeath on 01/01/2011 00:31:34 Originally by: Ivan Tesla@deviantart Same, I haven't received any response from CCP and I doubt I will. I canceled my accounts with them so I think thats just fair - treat me like sh#t then no money for them. Why rant if you already ragequit? You are now (of your own choice) no-longer part of the EvE community? So why the tears? I would also say "your stuff, can I haz?" but no point now....... Edit: A quick look at those that got through explains why your trainwreck didn't get in. It's a matter of taste, those that got through have some, your abomination that you tried to label as Caldari doesn't. Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails my name actually is short for catherine Yeah, Katie Door perhaps...... lol
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:32:00 - [5] Originally by: Captain Megadeath Originally by: Ivan Tesla@deviantart Same, I haven't received any response from CCP and I doubt I will. I canceled my accounts with them so I think thats just fair - treat me like sh#t then no money for them. Why rant if you already ragequit? You are now (of your own choice) no-longer part of the EvE community? So why the tears? I would also say "your stuff, can I haz?" but no point now....... Well I guess your right, I'll stop now. But since you and those like you are fine with ****y service by CCP - enjoy --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Pesets The Hunt Club	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:34:00 - [6] Their choice was in part based on how appropriate the ship would look within Eve universe. One could argue that your ship looks good on its own, but i'd say its shape is too weird even for Caldari. Personally, i'd exclude a couple other entries as well, but it's up to the CCP art team to decide where they want to take the look'n'feel of their game.
Lady Skank Ban Evasion inc	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:39:00 - [7] No need for anyone to ask "u mad?" because its pretty obvious that you are in deed pretty mad as this is your second butt hurt ship contest thread on the first page. Its new years EVE maybe you should get a drink and something to smoke and then go and find a willing lass/lad and relax.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:40:00 - [8] You didn't get in because the ones that did are much better. Personaly I am mad because I didn't finish my entry on time so I have to wait till next time
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:41:00 - [9] Would you happen to have a link to the rules that you feel have been broken here? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.01.01 00:57:00 - [10] Art thou crazed, brother? Thou art crazed. Thine veritable scrapheap of a vessel aught to tarnsh notte the majesty of the hallowed CCP database.
Mistress Mirrabell	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:00:00 - [11] Edited by: Mistress Mirrabell on 01/01/2011 01:00:36 Wow, so now i know what This and This would look like if they did the nasty...
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Tippia Would you happen to have a link to the rules that you feel have been broken here? He doesn't have to. They're plain for everyone to see. Corrupt, political reasons joke entries got in while others didn't. The odds of all of Silnys' work, although very high quality (I'll reserve any criticism and praise for his DA page), getting into the initial screening are next to impossible, since absolutely none were Added from the original entry number posted a week before the site shut down, but some subtracted. I posted two THREADS, appealing for REASON, DURING the contest, one for a compilation of pending entries, and one ASKING THEM TO UPDATE REVISIONS, ON WHAT WAS ALREADY ACCEPTED, LEGITIMATE FOR THE 47, AND ALREADY POSTED ON THEIR WEBPAGE and neither received a response from CCP. The only conceivable reason why the final version of my ship, Nekhbeti didn't get in is that the background I used, although clearly CCP resources, might not have been an official wallpaper, but then, they deleted all of their old screens and wallpapers from the archives, prior to the contest so there's no way of telling unless otherwise indicated in the file online. Ivan has every right to be angry, as does everyone else who doted and checked on the progress of the broken contest as it was going on during the holidays, taking time out from more important things. As for the LAMMERGEIR Caldari and MANY others, there is NO acceptable reason why they weren't accepted and a ship like the Republic Fleet Stalker, (although any effort is appreciated) got in. NONE.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Noro Aelkiota Originally by: Tippia Would you happen to have a link to the rules that you feel have been broken here? He doesn't have to. Yes he does, because the rules linked from the competition site pretty clearly answers every one of his questions. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:14:00 - [14] Originally by: Tippia Would you happen to have a link to the rules that you feel have been broken here? The rules, not the one available on the link of the official site, are gone - they were available on the first page but that of course now just shows the current submissions. I remember someone did a screen cap of the DA/CCP rules site on the previous contest. Which was a good idea since they changed to rules during the competition. If I had thought CCP would stuff up the contest I would have screen capped the rules too. But hey, anything is possible - maybe I imagined them stating the rules they originally had about displaying ship length & rules about posting signatures/logos etc - unless someone has a screen cap of the original 2nd CCP contest page we'll never know. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Captain Megadeath Edited by: Captain Megadeath on 01/01/2011 00:31:34 Originally by: Ivan Tesla@deviantart Same, I haven't received any response from CCP and I doubt I will. I canceled my accounts with them so I think thats just fair - treat me like sh#t then no money for them. Why rant if you already ragequit? You are now (of your own choice) no-longer part of the EvE community? So why the tears? I would also say "your stuff, can I haz?" but no point now....... Edit: A quick look at those that got through explains why your trainwreck didn't get in. It's a matter of taste, those that got through have some, your abomination that you tried to label as Caldari doesn't. Actually I'm paid up till February so I am still a member. Whats it like working for CCP? It sure sounds like you do. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:20:00 - [16] Originally by: Ivan Tesla Actually I'm paid up till February so I am still a member. Sweet, so contract your stuff to me. Originally by: Ivan Tesla Whats it like working for CCP? It sure sounds like you do. Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails my name actually is short for catherine Yeah, Katie Door perhaps...... lol
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:35:00 - [17] Edited by: Noro Aelkiota on 01/01/2011 01:43:55 Tippia. I'll provide the rules for you, so you can see what's going on. Forgive me if I leave any out. You must provide length in meters of your ship. This is the only required measurement. You may not include personal signatures or watermarks. You must provide six views of your ship in one file. Optionally, you may provide a 7th view of your ship, fully textured, lit, colored etc. It is preferred but not required that you include a seventh view. Deadline. The six views are preferred (ALTHOUGH OBVIOUSLY NOT REQUIRED) in Schematic, orthogonal, format. However, six different perspectives of the ship are required. Work must be your own. You can use CCP resources however you'd like. Most importantly. SUBMITTED WORK IS NOW PROPERTY OF CCP. Literally. People need to wake up. They're trained to not think in a logical way. Ruby for example. Edit; Tippia, Also size to scale is required. I used a Caldari Navy Raven. Hope this helps. ALSO, A#$C323n in the next post, HE CAN'T SELL IT TO A JAPANESE ANIME STUDIO BECAUSE HE FORFEITED HIS CREATIVE LICENSE UPON SUBMISSION
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Ivan Tesla Whats it like working for CCP? It sure sounds like you do. Confirming that anyone who actually likes the game as-is and doesn't have RAAAAAAAAAAAAGE to vent on the forums is, in fact, a secret CCP employee.
Alpheias	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:40:00 - [19] Oh, look. Another self-absorbed assclown who posts their "art" on place like deviantart and expects to be taken seriously, and you play WoW. Sell your creations to some japanese animu studio or something where your weird **** fits in like a rubber glove up your arse.
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:43:00 - [20] DevianTart, says it all.
Captain Octanis Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:45:00 - [21] OP... HE MAD its a spaceship contest, get over it GLORY TO THE STATE
Meryl SinGarda	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:47:00 - [22] Man, after reading this thread and visiting his Deviantart page, I got tears for DAYS.
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Meryl SinGarda Man, after reading this thread and visiting his Deviantart page, I got tears for DAYS. I can't tell if you're serious or not. Any art peripheral to the contest is irrelevant. The LAMMERGEIR is a Caldari masterpiece. He got robbed of his creative license, and chance to be voted on, end of story. I knew without a shadow of a doubt that some people were going to troll his petition if he didn't get in, on the 23rd. That was a week ago.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:05:00 - [24] Originally by: Noro Aelkiota He got robbed of his creative license, and chance to be voted on, end of story. Sounds more like he gave it away freely. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Lady Skank Ban Evasion inc	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Noro Aelkiota He got robbed of his creative license, He knew what the T&Cs of the competition where before he entered it so he was robbed of nothing, and if he didn't know well its his own damn fault for being an R-Tard and not checking exactly what he was agreeing to with his entry.
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Noro Aelkiota He got robbed of his creative license, and chance to be voted on, end of story. Sounds more like he gave it away freely. I disagree. He made a contract for his work to change hands if it was accepted into the competition. I personally have it worse, because I know mine was accepted, then discarded. There was no basis or reasonable argument for rejection of his work, as it's obviously very high quality and meets all of the criteria for acceptance. Instead CCP chose, as you can see now, invalid work, and even work that wasn't creatively sound (The tormentor, heron, and hyena on the page right now)
Alpheias	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Noro Aelkiota Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Noro Aelkiota He got robbed of his creative license, and chance to be voted on, end of story. Sounds more like he gave it away freely. I disagree. He made a contract for his work to change hands if it was accepted into the competition. I personally have it worse, because I know mine was accepted, then discarded. There was no basis or reasonable argument for rejection of his work, as it's obviously very high quality and meets all of the criteria for acceptance. Instead CCP chose, as you can see now, invalid work, and even work that wasn't creatively sound (The tormentor, heron, and hyena on the page right now) But in the real world where reality rules, CCP has whatsoever no obligation toward you "esteemed artists" to even consider your work even if it meets the criteria. The only thing you can do is submit and hope that that it isn't ****, which yours was since it got discarded.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:26:00 - [28] Originally by: Noro Aelkiota He made a contract for his work to change hands if it was accepted into the competition. Yes? And has it not been accepted (which differs quite a lot from "not being among the semi-finalists)? Quote: There was no basis or reasonable argument for rejection of his work, as it's obviously very high quality and meets all of the criteria for acceptance. Has it been rejected, then? As for "reasonable argument", they don't particularly need to provide one and the selection for the 40 spots simply comes down to taste ù if I felt particularly mean, I'd even say that quality is a rather irrelevant factor. Apparently, his entry didn't meet the taste of those who selected the entries. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Versuvius Marii Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:35:00 - [29] Meh... while I don't exactly agree with the OP's message of "wah I didn't get chosen so I ragequit", I am disappointed at what has been accepted. It's all CG stuff, and not all of us have those sort of programs or the anal-attentiveness required to sit there for hours working on wireframes, textures etc. I personally was going to submit something drawn on paper and spruced up in Photoshop, but once I saw that it was going to be a massive fapfest to CGI work I figured meh, why waste my time. To Ivan: at least be grateful you do have the talent. Now stop being an emo and move on with your life, and just share it with the world. You're clearly good, although I do agree with the consensus that it doesn't look like a Caldari hull other than its textures.
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:54:00 - [30] Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 01/01/2011 02:27:51 Originally by: Noro Aelkiota He made a contract for his work to change hands if it was accepted into the competition. Yes? And has it not been accepted (which differs quite a lot from "not being among the semi-finalists")? Oh, and no, by the look of the rules currently posted on the contest site, the work only truly changes hands if he wins. Quote: There was no basis or reasonable argument for rejection of his work, as it's obviously very high quality and meets all of the criteria for acceptance. Has it been rejected, then? As for "reasonable argument", they don't particularly need to provide one and the selection for the 40 spots simply comes down to taste ù if I felt particularly mean, I'd even say that quality is a rather irrelevant factor. Apparently, his entry didn't meet the taste of those who selected the entries. Saw your edit, the contract said winners, but there was also something about accepted entries (btw; where would you have access to the contract?)I honestly don't know if his work was considered accepted or not by CCP, which is a good point. I do know that he petitioned, pleaded, and repeatedly called for clarification while the contest was still going on. That is the basis of my argument. The rules said that all entries that meet the criteria would be voted on. From everything that they received that met the criteria there would be a vote, and those with the highest votes would be the "20" Semi-finalists. Voting was intended to begin on the 8th, not the 12th, which was in the contract, also contradicted on the site. THEN, and ONLY THEN would CCP's personal preference come into play for the four winners "Based on quality of work.". Their newsflash is entirely contradictory to the site rules. Also, they were a week late in even getting the entries up, and the "40", is "47" many of which should have been declined by the contest rules they described (obvious re-skins, only 4-5 views etc.) Don't get me wrong, I don't think I was going to win the grand prize, and there's allot of quality work up there, but if you've ever tried to render, light, and U/V a Caldari ship, and followed closely all the nonsense that went on going into the voting period deadline, you'd probably understand a little bit better, which is why I don't understand no talent pos' like Alpheas trolling, when he or she didn't put any effort into anything. Especially, because other than Silnys' great work on the T3, and perhaps the Liberty, there's only two possible Caldari contenders on the vote card. (they also threw out the Caldari Aura iirc)once again, for no acceptable reason. Then again, the goddamn Caldari inty is going to most likely win the title, because, hey, SkynetFB people don't play EvE.

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