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Confuzer
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Posted - 2011.01.06 13:37:00 -
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With 1700 orders out I hope they never think I am a bot :P
As for bot traders: when I look at my stats, OrangeFlounder is my number 1 person I buy from in Jita, VERY suspicious.
And seeing the items he is selling, they are from a very WIDE range. Somtimes I come into Jita, buy 10 items at large quantities and look! ALL from OrangeFlouder.
Oracleofjita is at the 2nd place btw, and for him goes exactly the same story. Also sells alot of items, and also is for all items the cheapest when I do a batch buy.
These guys should be looked into... not that they ARE bot traders, but one thing with bot traders: they should be at the top of my buy lists, as are these 2. ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Confuzer
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Posted - 2011.01.06 13:44:00 -
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Aah, leocaldari is also in my list, but not even in the top 30 ;)
(and these orders are from 2008-01-28 to 2009-03-20) ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Confuzer
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Posted - 2011.01.06 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Confuzer on 06/01/2011 13:55:52 Edited by: Confuzer on 06/01/2011 13:54:59
Originally by: Caldariftw123
Originally by: Confuzer With 1700 orders out I hope they never think I am a bot :P
As for bot traders: when I look at my stats, OrangeFlounder is my number 1 person I buy from in Jita, VERY suspicious.
And seeing the items he is selling, they are from a very WIDE range. Somtimes I come into Jita, buy 10 items at large quantities and look! ALL from OrangeFlouder.
Oracleofjita is at the 2nd place btw, and for him goes exactly the same story. Also sells alot of items, and also is for all items the cheapest when I do a batch buy.
These guys should be looked into... not that they ARE bot traders, but one thing with bot traders: they should be at the top of my buy lists, as are these 2.
When one person buys, another person sells, which could very well mean you are on the top of their seller list ;) .. using your same logic this could very well indicate you are a bot! Or, it could indicate nothing of the kind other than coincidence that you are both in the same markets. Consider you yourself have 1700 orders, and in order to 'spot the bot' you have to be doing the same thing as them ie updating orders frequently, operating in the same markets as them, etc.
But I am not a bot. What I find suspicious is that in Jita is much competition. While you are updating one order, another gets 0.01's isked. So with a wide random range of buy orders from me, to find them all at 5 seconds interval with buying from the same person is rather, suspicious. And no, I am not working like that. Trust me, you cannot really conclude I am a bot from my behaviour, as it is not and very humanlike. Although sometimes I do find myself a bot when I click around the 5 accounts :P ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Confuzer
Volition Cult -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.01.06 14:24:00 -
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But that is one item right?
I can say he is in every T2 item I trade. So one item should mean nothing to him... ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Confuzer
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Posted - 2011.01.06 15:03:00 -
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Hhmm still in Amarr selling ships AnakieNine? ;) ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Confuzer
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Posted - 2011.01.06 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Caldariftw123
Originally by: AnakieNine I usually stay away from Jita but I would like thank Oracleofjita too, for the many billions I sucked out of him on a couple of days last year when visiting jita.
A couple of other players that are online who also like to be fleeced in the same way. Guess they are idiots or something? Beefive kayce Ravoc Market Cop Rudo Cop
Ah so I'm not alone in poking Rudo Cop a little? :D
For anyone interested he was heavily involved in Rocket Fuel, that has spiked rather a lot recently btw, and has moved, along with Kayce Ravoc (remember him from the Technetium discussions?) into Robotics.
And to the above guy, I didn't seriously mean you are a bot, but I also meant it's not always so clear who is a bot and who is not. Though I have to admit some of the names in this thread I have thought of as bots before ..
I know you didn't mean I was a bot, I just tried to explain the the typical things of bots are matching with these guys, and I am not matching the typical things as you explained them.
2t? Wow nice... I took a break at 0.3t lol :D ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Confuzer
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:55:00 -
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Well OrangeFlounder I do give you the benefit of the doubt... but if Eve would like to check, would you cooperate? I would :)... I would like to kill those bot traders out of the game cus that means more profit :P
I forget to mention "gatwtal".
He is the biggest seller to me. But he is in front only because I have logs from him starting in 2007. Maybe he is one of yer alts? ;) ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Confuzer
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Posted - 2011.01.07 00:08:00 -
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Well a captcha can be nice, but you need to implement it well:
1) A player has issued a check on you, please fill in this captcha. After filling it in, you won't receive this message for an hour
2) We have detected constant use of your account for the past 24 hours. As this is suspicous, we ask you to fill this captcha.
Etc etc... :) ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Confuzer
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Posted - 2011.01.07 11:26:00 -
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Fun thread :) I have also looked at the youtube video of a market bot trader. It seemed genuine, helas. I think I could also make one, but I will never do that because 1) it gets me banned 2) it's not fair and will ruin the game imho.
[offtopic] Any of you ever heared of THE TERRORIST?
He tried scamming for a few months while buying all items on the market and reputting them at 2bil each so it seemed the normal price. I have made billions alone in days from him, milking him with very high items prices... [/offtopic] ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Confuzer
Volition Cult -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.01.07 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: leocaldari
Originally by: Caldariftw123 I can't decide if this is an epeen thread or a thread where people who use bots try to convince CCP they don't use bots by talking about other people that use bots? Interesting read at least.
I can only speak for myself: I NEVER USED any kind of sript or soemthing else. it is 100% manual trading
Well I use a self-made tasks script, but all the input into Eve is manually. I don't need to think anymore though, so I am somewhat like a typing tool atm lol ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
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Confuzer
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Posted - 2011.01.08 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: AnakieNine Edited by: AnakieNine on 08/01/2011 00:21:23
Originally by: Confuzer
[offtopic] Any of you ever heared of THE TERRORIST?
He tried scamming for a few months while buying all items on the market and reputting them at 2bil each so it seemed the normal price. I have made billions alone in days from him, milking him with very high items prices... [/offtopic]
Yeah. From what I remember he was around doing that type of thing for close to a year. Really became well known for it for a good 3 months when he went into overdrive. A few players started posting here on MD each time he started on a new item. I remember your name in a few threads. Probably why he stopped, way too many people fleecing him. :) I only managed to sell into his projects a couple of times as he was more north than south.
Yeah I made good isk from him. Mainly because I have somany stuff everywhere, I saw him everytime on each item he tried. Also he was in the same TZ. I would then fly hundreds of items from Amarr, and put them back on the market from 5 - 30 a time for like 5->30mil a piece :D ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
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