CCP has been exploring adding mooring modules that would protect a ship that was able to physically get near the module with a small force field around just the ship.
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Trebor mentioned that not having a force field would be a big change to the way fleets often operate, and Greyscale mentioned that he would be looking into that.
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There was some discussion about what the removal of POS force fields would change in things like nullsec fleet fights. Elise pointed out that losing the ability to have a safe(ish) place to park a fleet for 20 minutes or so would be a big change from the current system.

Two step pointed out that this would be a big change for all sorts of fights, and might be just a tad controversial.

POS changes are at least 9 months away and have had absolutely no serious details released yet.

From what Two Step has been saying it sounds like removing the forcefield is already something thats been decided.

I'd rather people start raising concerns now than just sitting back and seeing how it turns out (i.e. terrible) and then having to spend two years desperately trying to get ccp to un-**** everything

At this point we need to be talking about what we want to see in POS revisions rather than responding to rumors, speculation, and passing remarks by devs. Let's focus on contributing to the revisions so that CCP has a clearer picture of what players want to see.

Let's wait for the devblog that tells us their current direction before we go off fighting battles that are probably pointless.

edit: seriously, all this bluster about POS camping in w-space is rather silly, don't you think? It's not like they said you won't be able to put guns on the POS. Who's going to tank a properly-fitted POS just on the hopes you'll undock?

Maybe they will have the most desired feature for station if we dock......



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At this point we need to be talking about what we want to see in POS revisions rather than responding to rumors, speculation, and passing remarks by devs. Let's focus on contributing to the revisions so that CCP has a clearer picture of what players want to see.

Let's wait for the devblog that tells us their current direction before we go off fighting battles that are probably pointless.

edit: seriously, all this bluster about POS camping in w-space is rather silly, don't you think? It's not like they said you won't be able to put guns on the POS. Who's going to tank a properly-fitted POS just on the hopes you'll undock?

See... I thought the only reason people moved into whs was for the lack of local, the pew pew and the lewt from ships and sites.

Removing a POS shield from small towers would encourage more of the said pew pew and generate more lewt.

if you want to be safe, head to empire.

It is, but the lack of local lets you fight on your own terms. (If your smart)

and they are talking about removing the force field for all POSs not just small.

I find it amusing that one of the areas of the game that is pretty much working wonderfully suddenly has a slew of "ideas" or "fixes" proposed by CCP / the CSM that would make it terrible.

It's like they can't just leave it alone, they have to do "something" to w-space regardless of whether something needs or should be done.

This. POS's have very minor issues that shouldn't take reinventing the wheel to correct.

Oh god what did I just read.

Oh god what did I just read.

POS changes are at least 9 months away and have had absolutely no serious details released yet.

Stations currently not destructible. POS Are.

POS Currently not modular, stations are.

Why aren't they just amalgamating the two structures into 1 ?

Why not just a more scalable modular POS that could cost upward of 1-200b with ALL the right modules installed on it but allow small corps to get into a POS for 500m-1b with a very small amount of services available?

It would allow more selective dynamic pos for small corps.
Would still allow the right balance for large alliances.

CCP would only have *1* structure to **** with instead of 2 when dealing with development issues.

Would also be a great isk sink when blown up.

Tie some of the new taxation (for alliance, corp, taxes on EVERYTHING - as mentioned in the minutes) into the POS mechanic - tax on station services for instance.

Could also be tied into a new Sov system later - ie. Number of modules+module upgrades in the system being used by people etc.

And just plainly - a better lowsec.

They could still look different dependant upon what modules are installed etc..

Example:
Living in low-sec running a mining corp with a refinery module, a small market module, cloning module and some defensive modules could cost you 10b, but it's ok cause you make it back over time - the 3 refinery modules you installed allow a 3% tax on minerals, your market module only allows 1% tax, but the offices you just installed are now raking in 30m/office/month.

etc...

Seems like a no-brainer - but I'm not CCP and this could be too big a change.

Didn't they say there will be miniature force fields around modular components?

Your ship will be moored and be rendered invulnerable, allowing you to see what's going on.

I don't see what the big issue is.

As long as you properly fit and defend your pos then you should have no issues, CCP is more likely gonna make pos weaponry stronger in the revamp.

The problem with mooring, is the fact that when you undock you have to make it there first. Just wait until you undock to a 15 to 20 man bomber fleet on your door step.