It would be too much for a single character or corp to handle anyway (:

With the optimal setup my character could -->alone<-- make more than 14billion ISK

14 BILLION a month on 1 char doing PI

Moon goo

so once you get a few taking the masterplan, you cant guarantee others a perfect setup anymore if I understand the business plan correctly?

14 BILLION a month on 1 char doing PI
14,7 billion (:

chuckle vision, chuckle chuckle vision

Destriouth: It would be too much for a single character or corp to handle anyway (:

Destriouth: With the optimal setup my character could -->alone<-- make more than 14billion ISK

Destriouth: Fly safe. o7

14 BILLION a month on 1 char doing PI

Also, the logistics of moving a freighter full of goods to low / null space every day is... ugh :S

14,7 billion (:

Bull crap. I don't know what formula you are using, but a single character cannot make 14B isk per month purely from PI materials. I'm not even saying it would be very very hard, it is totally impossible.

Assuming perfect skills, finding perfect planets, 0 tax, null / wh space.

14,000,000B isk would require 11,666 P4 (wetware mainframes) this is assuming a sell price of 1.2M isk (200K over current buy orders).


11,666 P4 (wetware mainframes)
Wetware mainframes use 2880 p1 per p4. Each P4 uses 432,000 p0 per p4.

This comes to the following:

• 5,039,712,000 P0 to make all this p4.
• 839,952,000 P0 Per 1 planet of 6
• 27,998,400 P0 per day, per planet
• 11,66,600 P0 per hour, per planet

Having never seen a planet yield more then 5,760,000 in a 1 day cycle (wh, water, hot spot, perfect skills, 120,000p0 per 15 minute cycle) I seriously don't think you have found a way to extract 5 times this amount, let alone find a way to process that much P0. Each planet would require 388 basic factories to handle this much P0. So what magical way did you find to increase your cpu/power?

Buy into his 'system' to find out

it's theorycrafting, stating the potential even though the potential can never be realised etc.

My first setup for PI is probably terribad so I dunno what kind of up front cost we are talking about. I realise it's probably really different depending on many variable but can you give maybe a ballpark on what the upfront investement could be. Don't want to potentially waste your time if I can't pay up front...

Bull crap. I don't know what formula you are using, but a single character cannot make 14B isk per month purely from PI materials. I'm not even saying it would be very very hard, it is totally impossible.

I'm all for theory crafting and conceptual frameworks but the information he is giving with the possible results from using his information are impossible. There is no way using PI based on the limitations of the number of planets a player can have or the maximum number of extractors and factories each planet can have that a player could extract the amount of materials capable of generating 14B isk a month.

I have spent an embarrassing amount of time researching PI and testing planet setups (literally hundreds of hours). I also have 4 accounts running at nearly the highest possible efficiency possible which are only limited on skills (all skills at IV) as well as manufacture and sell finished products so I know a thing or two about the subject.

1. You found some magical formula that players will make hundreds of billions of isk using (Using your numbers I could make 200.4B per month) within your first 30 days of playing that no one else has found. You figured this out without testing anything in game, and within 2 days of joining eve you founded a corporation and started 3 alts. Players can trust you as you will refund them the hundreds of millions of isk they will pay you. You promise!

2. You're an ALT of a scammer claiming that you are a new player and that you have some magical system players will pay you hundreds of millions of isk for. Since it will take at minimum 1 month for players to "see results" you try to get as many people to sign up with your system, and at the end of the month surprise surprise! It doesnGÇÖt work, and suddenly your alt goes inactive.

I hope this text isn't too long for anybody to read it and gives you all needed information to judge my offering.

Add my voice to the dubious chorus that such returns are impossible.

Besides, even if they were, a real person would want to keep their trade secrets...as the more people doing the same exact thing as you...the worse everyone's margins are (Just ask the miners).

Pfsshhhhhhh....

If you suddenly discover a tree that grows money, you don't sell it.

t is too long, and has essentially no details beyond "your PI is good, but my snake oil is beter"

Why not put your math skills to use over in MD. I hear setting up an EVE bank is popular.

- +ìf you are sure you have the most optimal setup already you can send me your Setup and pay me to keep it secret.

Yes it is a little long. Im sorry for that. What do you mean by MD? Also dont know anything about EVE Banks, but i imagine few people trust a 1month-char. As most of you feel too (:

The first couple contracts are out. I have to take back the offer of reduced pay. Prices are normal now.

Sounds like you have the potential to make a nice bit of isk off of this. If your getting bugeoned by too many request, all you have to do is continue to increase your fees until the number of players wiling to pay it decreases. You'll still be able to make nice isk off your work. I'ld start with 100mil isk per consulting fee and see what happens.

yk

Month 1) Earn 14b
Month 2) Sub 28 new accounts
Month 3-5) Re-sub accounts while training
Month 6) Each account makes 14b = 28*14 392b/month
Month 8) Trillionaire

- +ìf you are sure you have the most optimal setup already you can send me your Setup and pay me to keep it secret.

Or you could use my program (linked in sig) to calculate your profits.

Month 1) Earn 14b
Month 2) Sub 28 new accounts
Month 3-5) Re-sub accounts while training
Month 6) Each account makes 14b = 28*14 392b/month
Month 8) Trillionaire

You don't understand, apart from being a financial genius the guy is also a philanthropist and wants to spread the wealth.

Sooo, if someone finds a gold mine he suddenly gets an uncontrollable urge to share this with someone. And you, being such a kind soul, lend your ear to share this burden. Then ask for money to keep the secret. My brain is melting

Really now, I'm always amazed at the amount of time and effort these pathetic people waste trying to hatch the next big scam only to fail hard. They could do afk-mining and still earn more with less effort.

I used his services, and overall I'd say it was alright. If you're starting out in PI, this would provide some good information. However, if you're an experienced PI capsuleer, or Industry professional, I don't think you'll learn anything new. The entry price is kind of high, but you will eventually make it back, it all depends on how much initial work you put into it. With the information I was given, I could produce about 3.25m isk every ten hours. That's my honest assessment, so take it or leave it.

72m/day?

6m/planet every 10 hours is an average of 600k/hour

It's not theoretically possible to create enough P0 to be worth that much, yet alone process it. You would have to import materials to even output 600k/hour of gross value. Net profit would only be a percentage of that.

I'm calling BS on 600k/hour of profit on one planet.

and the first one has to criticize me jet.

1. It's not some amazing program that should have taken 20 hours to code. It's simply excel-fu to figure out what products are profitable from stage X to Y.

2. It's not "minimal effort". I had looked into it when my alliance had taken over a section of lowsec near a trade hub and installed POCO's While the amount of isk I calculated I could make was very high, the amount of work would be far more than my WH operation. I'm talking freighters worth of material to haul in (to lowsec) and finished product to haul out and sell. And planets that needed to be refilled at best every other day. Certainly not a low amount of effort.

Like I said originally, I don't think it was some revelation from God type of system, but it would be good for people in the beginning stages of PI and trying to find a profitable starting point. I had setup a couple of different PI scenarios in a couple of different areas, and found the work per isk to not be worth it. With the information he gave me, it really did set me in a different direction with a different idea on what I wanted to do, and so far I'm much more profitable.

The effort required to setup is maybe an hour if your going to do multiple planets, but there is hauling involved, but with the setup he gave me, I'm looking at hauling a couple of times every couple of days, so I don't think that's a big deal. Plus I'm only hauling one jump.

If you could make the output more graphically friendly then you may have a more efficient process. Maybe you should invest time in that to multiple your efficiency and therefore your profits. Can we se an example output?
yk

If I created and had this system to make 14bil a month there is no way I would tell anyone. And if I did why charge them? Your making 14bil a month!... Just make 3alts and then make 56bil a month!..
Just saying.
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Hello Destriouth Hollow.. I just started back playing after being away for about 2yrs. I'm looking to get into PI... I'm brand new to it...I have been reading and watching a lot guides but still haven't started doing PI. Your offer sounds really good. The fact that you took your own time to create such a system and come on the forums to make this thread makes me feel like I can trust you a bit... Atm I'm grinding L2 and L3 missions to get my funds up. All my ships and funds are on my other alts...Haven't activated them yet....When I get enough I will be contacting you in game.... My in game name is NETBLAISE....I'm always on since I started back playing....Thx a lot for putting the offer out there. Is the cost 100mil?