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Ganjitos	Posted - 2011.01.03 20:56:00 - [1] Edited by: Ganjitos on 03/01/2011 20:58:25 am studying a spaceship that could Garat my isks. I'm a Caldari pilot, and I'm progressing crusair V, intending Strategic cruiser. Tengu ends sanctum alone? In EFT, I could not cap stable using the medium / large shield booster, without sacrificing DPS.
Xituqtra	Posted - 2011.01.03 21:14:00 - [2] try out a deadspace booster
xxxak Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.01.03 21:33:00 - [3] It is possible to setup a Tengu with 2x small gistii b-type boosters that will EASILY tank sanctums.
GanjoOvaron	Posted - 2011.01.03 21:38:00 - [4] Edited by: GanjoOvaron on 03/01/2011 21:40:05
Ganjitos	Posted - 2011.01.03 21:40:00 - [5] Originally by: GanjoOvaron Edited by: GanjoOvaron on 03/01/2011 21:40:05
superteds	Posted - 2011.01.03 22:00:00 - [6] tengu can tank a gurista sanctum on just a single small booster. low sig+high AB speed ftw
Drakarin Gallente Absentia Libertas Solus	Posted - 2011.01.03 22:20:00 - [7] Originally by: superteds tengu can tank a gurista sanctum on just a single small booster. low sig+high AB speed ftw I've never done a Sanctum, so maybe they aren't geared towards the hardest levels, but I'd imagine there would be tons of frigates that would web. Just one = death. In a multi billion isk ship you don't want to take that kind of risk.
raukosen	Posted - 2011.01.03 23:29:00 - [8] There are no webbing frigates in guristas sanctums
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2011.01.03 23:38:00 - [9] Originally by: Drakarin Originally by: superteds tengu can tank a gurista sanctum on just a single small booster. low sig+high AB speed ftw I've never done a Sanctum, so maybe they aren't geared towards the hardest levels, but I'd imagine there would be tons of frigates that would web. Just one = death. In a multi billion isk ship you don't want to take that kind of risk. tengu is faster than every webbing frig in missions, so even if there are a bunch of npc webbers in sanctums they shouldn't be a problem.
Terianna Eri Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.01.03 23:48:00 - [10] Originally by: raukosen There are no webbing frigates in guristas sanctums This is a false statement. ________________ Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2011.01.04 00:04:00 - [11] Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: raukosen There are no webbing frigates in guristas sanctums This is a false statement. These are both false statements. - I troll stupid people.
Cadius Vect RETRIBUTIONS.	Posted - 2011.01.04 04:13:00 - [12] Originally by: William Cooly Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: raukosen There are no webbing frigates in guristas sanctums This is a false statement. These are both false statements. Paradox... ----------------------------------------------------------- Killboard: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Cadius+Vect-kills.html
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.01.04 05:59:00 - [13] Originally by: Ganjitos Originally by: GanjoOvaron Edited by: GanjoOvaron on 03/01/2011 21:40:05
Corporal Punishment08 NosWaffle Nostradamus Effect	Posted - 2011.01.04 16:24:00 - [14] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Drakarin Originally by: superteds tengu can tank a gurista sanctum on just a single small booster. low sig+high AB speed ftw I've never done a Sanctum, so maybe they aren't geared towards the hardest levels, but I'd imagine there would be tons of frigates that would web. Just one = death. In a multi billion isk ship you don't want to take that kind of risk. tengu is faster than every webbing frig in missions, so even if there are a bunch of npc webbers in sanctums they shouldn't be a problem. I've been caught by webbing frigs in lvl 4 missions before, which were travelling much faster than my 600+ m/s... But the Tengu should have no problem running Sanctums with a standard PVE setup.
Lenore Leelu	Posted - 2011.01.06 02:36:00 - [15] <?xml version="1.0" ?> - <fittings> - <fitting name="Tengu - New Setup 1"> <description value="" /> <shipType value="Tengu" /> <hardware slot="low slot 0" type="Ballistic Control System II" /> <hardware slot="low slot 1" type="Ballistic Control System II" /> <hardware slot="low slot 2" type="Ballistic Control System II" /> <hardware slot="low slot 3" type="Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I" /> <hardware slot="low slot 4" type="Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I" /> <hardware slot="med slot 0" type="Target Painter II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 1" type="Invulnerability Field II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 2" type="Photon Scattering Field II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 3" type="Medium Shield Booster II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 4" type="10MN Afterburner II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 5" type="Shield Boost Amplifier II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 0" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 1" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 2" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 3" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 4" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="rig slot 0" type="Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I" /> <hardware slot="rig slot 1" type="Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 0" type="Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 1" type="Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 2" type="Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 3" type="Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 4" type="Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst" /> </fitting> </fittings> how would that go on the frigates, with the painter would it actually hit them and do enough damage?
Ambaseter Doggy	Posted - 2011.01.06 03:30:00 - [16] Tengu can use 3 rigs not 2 Agent texas is a bit of a badass
Lenore Leelu	Posted - 2011.01.06 03:52:00 - [17] My eft says no, with the currently selected modules.
Tub Chil	Posted - 2011.01.06 08:31:00 - [18] below is valid for gurista sanctums, others I haven't run with tengu 1) tengu with AB can move fast enough that frigate rats will never catch you. (warp to 50-70 km) 2) I have NEVER been webbed in sanctum anomaly, are webbers even there? not sure, haven't seen them 3) you do not need to be cap stable. with large booster my cap lasts about 2 minutes and it's more than enough. I only pulse 1-2 cycles at the end of spawn 4)being webbed =/= death as it was stated here. you have crazy resists and low sig, and take little damage from missiles. Sometimes I loot BS wrecks, when I approach them ship obviously stops and takes more damage but this damage is far from deadly 5) even if you get webbed, with TP you kill most frigs in 1 shot. tough ones 2-4 shots.
Xyrdiana	Posted - 2011.01.06 14:03:00 - [19] with this fit you can tank the gurista sanctums for fun, its not cap stable but thats no problem because you dont have to run the booster all the time more than enough dps to pop even the toughest bs. if you feel comfortable you can change cap recharger for painter, i dont really need it, precision missiles kill frigaets so damn fast and with this rigs (which are quite cheap 80m +- each) if you need more tank (which i really doubt) go buy yourself the pith a-type medium shield booster for 950m isk... the CN BCUs are a must. the republic fleet 10mn ab can go deadspace but you dont Have to... True sansha cap recharger is just something i got from a rat so no you can fit t2 with the same stats. (to avoid trolls no guristas didnt drop this) [Tengu, PvE] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Ballistic Deflection Field II Invulnerability Field II Medium Shield Booster II True Sansha Cap Recharger Shield Boost Amplifier II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
RavenPaine	Posted - 2011.01.06 16:58:00 - [20] If your doing sanctums without a cloak or nullifier, then you have bigger things to worry about than NPC frigates....
rodensteiner Amarr Shioshi Capital Storm	Posted - 2011.01.06 17:33:00 - [21] Originally by: RavenPaine If your doing sanctums without a cloak or nullifier, then you have bigger things to worry about than NPC frigates.... Wow, paranoid much? The only way you'll get caught (like I did) is if you get ****y and don't warp out when hostiles enter your system. Tengu can solo any Sanctum with ease, I'd say, no matter what NPC's you're up against. The more you spend, the easier it'll get. _____________________________________________ I'm horrible at PVP
KWyz	Posted - 2011.01.06 17:50:00 - [22] In addition to the above post: always have a safespot ready for warp, and have bookmarks off-grid from stations to avoid bubbles - there are plenty of chances that those two reds/neutrals you see in the system are interdictors placing bubbles and covering most important directions( gates, JBs). I cannot stress how quickly an interdictor can place bubbles like that...or how quickly a covops vessel with a covops cyno can jump in a horde of bombers/recons etc.
Corporal Punishment08 NosWaffle Nostradamus Effect	Posted - 2011.01.06 21:43:00 - [23] Originally by: Ambaseter Doggy Tengu can use 3 rigs not 2 Calibration on a Tengu is 400 and those two rigs use 200 each.
Shogun ripper	Posted - 2011.01.06 23:31:00 - [24] If you are worried about the possibility of getting jumped just use a drake. A properly tanked drake can easily do a sanctum solo without the need for constant worry. Hell you can practically do it while watching tv with a perma running Afterburner. Drop your drones after aggro of each wave and let them work on the cruisers/ frigs. It does take a while because of the low dps (takes about 12-15 heavy missles to kill each bs using t1) but it's also not a pain if its lost to a gank. Also....If you want to actually pay attention you can salvage while you kill.
Vardec Crom	Posted - 2011.01.07 00:27:00 - [25] Edited by: Vardec Crom on 07/01/2011 00:35:07 edit: boost amp is fine t2, can't use t2 boost amps personally though. Also, don't need a CCC, originally designed for dual small booster setup. Can go 3 rigors or to flavor. [Tengu, Tengu] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Republic Fleet Target Painter Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst 1.warp in 2.pick structure to orbit 3.turn on AB 4.find entertainment 5.??? 6.pew pew 7.profit
Jaina Sunspot Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.07 00:36:00 - [26] Originally by: Lenore Leelu <?xml version="1.0" ?> - <fittings> - <fitting name="Tengu - New Setup 1"> <description value="" /> <shipType value="Tengu" /> <hardware slot="low slot 0" type="Ballistic Control System II" /> <hardware slot="low slot 1" type="Ballistic Control System II" /> <hardware slot="low slot 2" type="Ballistic Control System II" /> <hardware slot="low slot 3" type="Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I" /> <hardware slot="low slot 4" type="Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I" /> <hardware slot="med slot 0" type="Target Painter II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 1" type="Invulnerability Field II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 2" type="Photon Scattering Field II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 3" type="Medium Shield Booster II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 4" type="10MN Afterburner II" /> <hardware slot="med slot 5" type="Shield Boost Amplifier II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 0" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 1" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 2" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 3" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="hi slot 4" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II" /> <hardware slot="rig slot 0" type="Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I" /> <hardware slot="rig slot 1" type="Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 0" type="Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 1" type="Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 2" type="Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 3" type="Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay" /> <hardware slot="subsystem slot 4" type="Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst" /> </fitting> </fittings> how would that go on the frigates, with the painter would it actually hit them and do enough damage? The lil ship next to the name, if you click it and hit copy to clipboard your fits come out cleaner. [Bantam, Jaina`s Awsome Bantam Setup V 15.4] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Small Clarity Ward Booster I Survey Scanner II Miner II Miner II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x1
Vardec Crom	Posted - 2011.01.07 00:39:00 - [27] Originally by: RavenPaine If your doing sanctums without a cloak or nullifier, then you have bigger things to worry about than NPC frigates.... If you do sanctums in hostile sov maybe...
Lenore Leelu	Posted - 2011.01.07 04:01:00 - [28] Edited by: Lenore Leelu on 07/01/2011 04:04:00 futzing about with eft... [Tengu, This Tengu Rocks] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst defence 1067 firepower 650 volley 2144 is that enough to handle sleepers? level 3 only? or is it better to drop an amplifier and add an AB, this drops defence to about 800
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.01.07 04:16:00 - [29] ^^^ Might wanna swap out a shield boost amp for an AB
Gman one	Posted - 2011.01.07 04:20:00 - [30] Originally by: Tub Chil 2) I have NEVER been webbed in sanctum anomaly, are webbers even there? not sure, haven't seen them Apperantly there is: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Guristas_Sanctum
LiNuXb0y Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2011.01.07 05:02:00 - [31] Ok so this does all anoms without even thinking about it. Takes in around 20 mill per wallet update. Looks a little expensive but the amps are really cheap. Think the whole thing cost about 1.2bill. Replace the TP for a DG boost amp and you have a tengu that can do everything upto 8/10 solo with ease. I think it would also be able to do higher but most of those plex's have neut battery's or citadel torp launchers. Oh and obviously this is for vs guristas. [Tengu, Plex] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Target Painter II Pithum A-Type Heat Dissipation Amplifier Pithum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier Pith A-Type Ballistic Deflection Field Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Little MissPerfect	Posted - 2011.01.12 09:07:00 - [32] Seems like all the Rigs listed in these builds are rigors. Is the Calefaction Cat any good? (10% missle damage) or are the Rigors better somehow? Are they better for cruise missles as well?
KWyz	Posted - 2011.01.12 10:00:00 - [33] I invoke the power of Liang... Rigors help you by better applying the dps your missiles do against smaller targets, such as frigates and cruisers. "This ship modification is designed to decrease the signature radius factor for missile explosions at the expense of increased CPU requirements for launchers." Especially useful if for the use of t2 fury ammo, wich you SHOULD have on the Tengu, against almost any enemy.
cmcdune Amarr Traumland United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 10:55:00 - [34] All this fits are overtanked/expensive. T2 Med SB T2 SB Amp 2x T2 Hardener T2 AB and your fine doing every guristas **** out there except 8/10 and 10/10. In Sanctums this fit is also much overtanked. on a normal ring sanctum i dont even have to put SB on. Only in large havens i have to take SB on more than 5 cycles (because of teh webs).
Naypalmacus Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.12 12:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Little MissPerfect Seems like all the Rigs listed in these builds are rigors. Is the Calefaction Cat any good? (10% missle damage) or are the Rigors better somehow? Are they better for cruise missles as well? Rigor rigs reduce the explosion radius of your guided missiles, effectively given you better damage application against targets.
KWyz	Posted - 2011.01.13 13:25:00 - [36] I was able to run the Gurista 8/10 with a cap stable Tengu,using only 2 gistii b-type small shield boosters. They're not cheap( last time i bought a pair that was 80 million), but if you keep your speed up, you'll be able to tank anything sanctums throw at you. Invest in a faction afterburner and you can skim it down to just ONE small shield booster(it's probably overtanked with two). Tengus rule.
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.13 13:27:00 - [37] Originally by: KWyz I was able to run the Gurista 8/10 with a cap stable Tengu,using only 2 gistii b-type small shield boosters. They're not cheap( last time i bought a pair that was 80 million), but if you keep your speed up, you'll be able to tank anything sanctums throw at you. Invest in a faction afterburner and you can skim it down to just ONE small shield booster(it's probably overtanked with two). Tengus rule. One Pithi B-type and a boost amp let me ninja some plexes in sov 0.0.
Sfynx Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.13 18:40:00 - [38] Can confirm that Tengu tanks all but those jumboTorpedo and/or neutralizer Guristas encounters with only one deadspace small shield booster, especially if you fit it for kinetic resistance + shield boost amp + T2/faction AB. Even a Pithi C-type would do... it's the combination of signature radius, resistance and speed that keeps your shields up. Webbers negate speed, but you will only have at most a couple webbers on you at any given time, who will be vaporized long before you get in any sort of trouble (if ever, since a lot of times I could sit perfectly still with a stable shield , I mostly kill them first because they tend to scram as well and ability to GTFO at any moment is nice in anything below 0.5 space) You notice the significance of sig+speed tank especially well in the last room of the 8/10 Guristas complex, where the most dangerous ships are the battlecruisers (which you can two-volley with nice fit+skills). I never go below 90% shields there. As far as Guristas is concerned, this thing is the last word on agile PvE'ing.

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