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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2005.01.20 18:47:00 -
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welp, we all get blob killed now and then, just had my turn with moo last night. 10 shoting at one.
still saying that in the hole time they where shoting at me i never thought once of logen out on them even when my pod got lag stuck and i couldnt even click my pod out into worp. i try too avoid them fights but we always cant.. 
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.01.20 18:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Rod Blaine
I'm with DBP on this one.
Somehow none of our people EVER crashes while being ganked.
I find that mightily coincidental.
Logging off is the most despicable thing you can do in this game. And the fact that CCP for lack of a spine has not only not done anything about it, but even said that it's perfectly ok to log off is even worse.
But tbh, I'll just have to divide the eve population into two camps. The loggers and the real people.
I have CTD whilst fighting twice.
Once to that sound bug thingmy ages and ages ago - was it tracking disruptors that did it? I really can't remember.
The other time was just after the Exodus release, and I was CTD'ing all the time anyway.
One other time I got bugged at a station (up in D7 or IMK - little box said I was docking, UI and stuff had already gone, ship never docked ...). I could have logged off and saved the ship then, but I knew it would have looked bad so I didn't.
Some people will stoop to any level to avoid 'defeat', but these people are the ones who think you can 'win' in Eve.
They need to realise that their actions will follow them, and no amount of revenge will fix their tarnished reputations.
I won't do it because I respect most of the people I fight.
Circumstance had me fighting some of my favorite characters in Eve. I would be just as happy fighting along side them. How can I exist in this state of duality? Because I respect the players, regardless how our characters interact.
I'd be p1ssed if someone logged off on me, I'll be damned if I am going o put a fellow warrior through that.
If they earn the kill they deserve it - I won't use some underhanded out-of-game tactic to save a few isk, and I can't understand those who do.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.20 19:02:00 -
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Solution Proposed
Feel free to show support... or dissent... as you see fit.
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Koda
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Posted - 2005.01.20 20:56:00 -
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My favorites are the ones who log off mid-warp. The guy drops out of local and you think "Day-umm that was a good insta."
I have CTD'd once in combat upon warping in a mining op turned gank clusterf**k. And of course I was the tackler. 
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2005.01.20 23:19:00 -
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As lame as this tactic is...its not an exploit...CCP has to protect the interests of the folks who like to play all their games in God mode.
This tactic has rendered scorpion's completely innefective for solo PvP.
The worst part is that CCP fixed this problem once before...and then REMOVED it. I'm not sure what their motivation was for this, its possible that they wanted to eliminate all the ghost ships that were flying around unpiloted...or perhaps they just wanted to keep the God Mode crowd happy.
For those of you that don't know what I'm talking about with regards to ghost ships...I remember flying an indy through a mobile warp disruptor and then logging out. Since the indy couldn't warp out when I logged out it just kept flying, forever...
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Ebil Piwate
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Posted - 2005.01.21 04:52:00 -
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so the rumor is that those fix guys lost like 8 bs and fittings today .. thats totaly bull .. if this continues.. everyone will log.. and there will only rumor and legend of killmails ... i think those fix guys should get there ships back .. and the red aliance members pulling this crap .. along with the others that do it .. should be warned not to pull these stunts..
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Randay
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Posted - 2005.01.21 07:04:00 -
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Edited by: Randay on 21/01/2005 07:05:20
Originally by: Ebil Piwate
Yes, I would like to report a bug in the logging off game mechanic. Today I tried to log off and instead of disappearing, my ship was destroyed. I know this because when I logged back into the game I was in a capsule. Also my manhood had rotten and fell off. Please reimburse my ship and manhood because this is a very bad bug with logging off!
Sincerely,
Ebil Piwate.
sorry if i get this thread locked but i just cant help myself.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.01.21 07:06:00 -
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As I like to suck velspar on Yulai more than PvP, I do agree that logging off should leave your ship floating in space .. althou I do understand what stress it would cause to servers. So logging off is a valid tactic, its your problem if you cannot kill it before it disaperes 
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Hygelac
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Posted - 2005.01.21 15:12:00 -
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Since Shiva I've been CTDing at least once a night which is a royal pain.
Speaking of Naming and Shaming.
Turlin from the Fountain Alliance. Thanks for Logging off in your Megathron, when you realized you were going to lose your ship to a Wolf!
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.01.21 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cleaner Renaelc
Petition logoffers every time they do it because it is exploit.
No it is not...
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starfox2004
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Posted - 2005.01.21 16:59:00 -
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Anybody notice how you only ever crash to desktop when you are LOSING THE FIGHT ! never when winning ? BIZZAR 
p.s imho ctd'ers should be punished !
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Frost88
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Posted - 2005.01.21 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cleaner Renaelc
Petition logoffers every time they do it because it is exploit.
I tried that, the GM told me to **** off.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.21 19:55:00 -
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Yeah, we've gotten both answers from GMs at different times. I think if everyone in the game who was bothered by this continually barraged them with exploit reports something could get done. Don't get silly or excessive, mind you, but actually documenting when this is happening.
TBH, the community has the ability to override CCP's decision on what is, and what is not, an exploit of gameplay.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2005.01.22 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN
TBH, the community has the ability to override CCP's decision on what is, and what is not, an exploit of gameplay.
By annoying the **** outta em :)
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Fyazquo
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Posted - 2005.01.22 04:16:00 -
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think they at least should implement that if your ship have been under an agressive act for for the last 20-30 sec your ship wont dissapear, that makes it impossible for someone thats under fire to save that ship with logoff.
as i see it from CCP side with this rule is that if someone losses his ship during for this rule they got one costumer thats gaming experince is impared, agains 1 or more ppl hunting him / shooting at him getting their gaming experience impared. if CCP wants they can retrict it to hostile acts from another player.
oh.. and if your saing what about me then ?. my con is SO bad.. dont go into combat then.. actually.. speak with your IPS or whatever so they fix your conn. |
siim
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Posted - 2005.01.23 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Boldyn
Originally by: siim
RUSH is a very good pvp corp
you shouldn't talk **** bout them
and Sibiest is not spineless
I've seen him fight he has balls to go 1v1
Want me to act surprised that you side with them?
I donŠt care how very good u think they are, I didnŠt say all off them are lame now did I????
Either way, she came back online, warped back to the planet, this time we were waiting (10 min later btw). she ofc loged again, but her ship didnŠt vanish this time, it mutated into a can...
This isnŠt whining, or crying, this is letting people know how spineless others in game are..
Regards
Did I ******* take side with em ?
I just told me that they are a good pvp corp..
What they are
and oh you got her
want to get a cookie ?
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pcgamereve
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Posted - 2005.01.23 11:38:00 -
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no one cares.
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Nomen Nescio
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Posted - 2005.01.23 23:01:00 -
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Solution is simple as always - if you are targeted by player your ship wont warp on logoff. And no need for any logoff timer or NPC solution.
But CCP wants their... pve playerbase to pay for accounts and dont leave to "more freindly enviroments". So logoff is "a feature"
I, I personaly, dont like that, but I would suggest a compromiz:
If you loggoff and you are targeted by a player all you cargo drops in a can and you warp. If it was an honest crash to desktop, you'll get back to you can right away, if not, let the brave have your "ammo"
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NumBerGuy
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Posted - 2005.01.24 02:19:00 -
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If you log of and dont return to ur sheep in 15 mins, your ship will then be transprted to the last station you docked at.
This cured this tactic in JumpGate
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.01.24 18:32:00 -
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Hm, from what i have heard, the only time your ship dissapears is when you log off and log in with an different character. I get lots of CTD's and when i log in my ship is either gone or very low on health.
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2005.01.24 18:42:00 -
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Its a crappy tactic ive had 5 people do it to me in the last 2 days, all of their ships died anyway but it could of turned out differently as it has before. I myself refuse to use it and while i was tackled and jammed at a gate for more then 5 minutes while the enemy killed me i chose to die rather then resort to an exploit to save me. The problem is ccp cant rele stop ppl doing it since every now and then it will be a gunuin net failure during a battle and that just sucks if u die because of it. Anyone got any ideas how they could stop such a thing?
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Athlete
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Posted - 2005.01.24 20:07:00 -
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...and let's not even talk about the "Log-ON Ambush"...
Equally lame, and I too have been told by CCP that 'people are allowed to log on or off anytime they want'.
Good call on the 'if ur targetted you don't warp out' suggestion. I like it.
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Vult
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Posted - 2005.01.26 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hygelac
Since Shiva I've been CTDing at least once a night which is a royal pain.
2 words...
GET BROADBAND! 
Actually, this is my second time around with Eve... the first time which was about a year and a half ago, CTD's and such were kinda common. Then again, me living in the US and the Eve servers living in the UK, well... do the math.
What's funny, is at any given time, the most people I've ever seen online is around 10,000 people. How many subscribers are there to Eve? 50,000? Let's do some math...
50,000 x $15USD a month = $750,000USD monthly.
So, considering salaries of CCP Employees, equipment costs, etc., etc., etc... does it really cost that much to run this thing? I guess there's really no way to mirror everything to a server in the US as well... oh well.
Just my .02 isk.
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noitulos
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Posted - 2005.01.26 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: noitulos on 26/01/2005 18:21:52
Originally by: Boldyn
Edited by: Boldyn on 20/01/2005 08:58:42
Since I hate spineless people, I thought it would be fun to hang them out for the public to display
Sibiest of R.u.S.H, thank you for warping to planet 6 in p-zmzv, get scrambled and webed by a Harpy and a malediciton, while you are in your Amrageddon. You didnŠt even try to take out 2 attackers..instead you log off, and after a while...your ship disapears. Fight with honor, or donŠt fight at all.
Dedrex of R.u.S.H, very brave of you to pull the same stunt...twice. First time your ship vanishes, second time you got killed anyway, try and fight back next time...coward
Dedrex logs and vanishes
Dedrex logs, but dies
Come on poeple...is this the way you want to play this game?....pathetic
Regards
I have to agree with you 100% on loggin off..lamest thing to do ingame atm.
I do find it sorta funny about a FIX alliance guy talking about fighting with honor, when your alliance policy is to safe spot until you get 2:1 odds and then engage.
That is another matter and I don't wanna create a flamewar here. Just a funny observation and my 2 cents.
I still agree 100% on logging off...lame as it gets.
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Nomen Nescio
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Posted - 2005.01.26 18:31:00 -
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If CCP thinks its fair and ok to log, why dont they add a button to do so? So people who want to use "feature" of a game wont hit power buttons on their pcs.
Button near the drones and cargo, called "emergency warp". I mean come on, if i play "fair" why should i quit the client?
But then I think a bit more about it, how about 2 bonus features together with the emergency jump? First, all you mods go off, and second you drop all cargo, but you warp no matter what in a random spot saving the ship, obviously the current timeout is applied between the button and warp.
Cargo drop wont allow to exploit the button to save cargo, and mods going off will prevent "warp out, warp back in" all the time in a combat situation.
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Triskadecaphobia
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Posted - 2005.01.26 19:22:00 -
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CCP needs to punish people that use log off tactics!
And what would u propose? A ban,a fine(whether ISK or real Money),Corporal Punishment,...?
Glad u complainers don't work for CCP,else I might get banned if my CPU crashes.
U wanna judge people?Go to law school first.
And could the carebear pirates plz stop complaining everytime somebody logs off!
To quote a pirate who's name slips me:'We don't FXXKing care!!'
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.01.26 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hamatitio
Originally by: S3VYN
TBH, the community has the ability to override CCP's decision on what is, and what is not, an exploit of gameplay.
By annoying the **** outta em :)
Until they give you a warning for spamming petitions.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Nerfapotamus
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Posted - 2005.01.26 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nomen Nescio
If CCP thinks its fair and ok to log, why dont they add a button to do so? So people who want to use "feature" of a game wont hit power buttons on their pcs.
Button near the drones and cargo, called "emergency warp". I mean come on, if i play "fair" why should i quit the client?
But then I think a bit more about it, how about 2 bonus features together with the emergency jump? First, all you mods go off, and second you drop all cargo, but you warp no matter what in a random spot saving the ship, obviously the current timeout is applied between the button and warp.
Cargo drop wont allow to exploit the button to save cargo, and mods going off will prevent "warp out, warp back in" all the time in a combat situation.
The feature already exists! \o/
Just use windowed mode, and a nifty little "X" will be on the top-right corner. Weeeeeeeeeeee!!!
.. Or Ctrl+Q works just as well.
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Randay
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Posted - 2005.01.26 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: noitulos
Edited by: noitulos on 26/01/2005 18:21:52
I have to agree with you 100% on loggin off..lamest thing to do ingame atm.
I do find it sorta funny about a FIX alliance guy talking about fighting with honor, when your alliance policy is to safe spot until you get 2:1 odds and then engage.
That is another matter and I don't wanna create a flamewar here. Just a funny observation and my 2 cents.
I still agree 100% on logging off...lame as it gets.
Firstly, there is no 2:1 ratio "policy". If you know Boldyn, or any of our more experienced pilots, you know that we try hard not to blob, because everyone just runs in that case. However we cannot turn down our less experienced pilots, because thier participation is greatly appreciated.
Also you should have a talk with Alania Ishai, the only way I could get her to fight me was to fly around in an iteron mk4, and even then she tried to log-exploit, still died though  . Also her sole purpose in our space seems to be to smack in local, then die.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2005.01.26 21:38:00 -
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Flametastic!
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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