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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.08.18 14:56:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? I don't want to chat with them, I don't want to buy, sell or trade with them. I don't want to share resources with them..
I want to shoot them.
In the face.
From what was in the CSM minutes, it looks like having dust bunnies controlling planets will give sov bonuses (assuming that they're in your Alliance)
So you don't need them. They just make you better.
FuzzWork Enterprises
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Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
72
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Posted - 2012.08.18 15:09:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
Griefing console players will be the quickest way to popularize Dust. Great idea imo.
FTFY |
Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.08.18 15:15:00 -
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Beware what you wish for.
In the future there could be troop transports sawing into your hull and spewing dust bunnies into it, coming to your pod hold, and doing unmentionable things to your current clone  |
Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
24
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Posted - 2012.08.18 15:17:00 -
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I want to bombard Caldari Prime.
The rage would be awesome.
Will sell wallet space for ISK. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9188
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Posted - 2012.08.18 15:24:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:I was thinking about this ... we know that at launch DUST will only have an impact on high and low-sec planets Really? Last I heard they were only going to do the exact opposite of that. Do you have a link to more recent statement?
No More Heroes wrote:Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? No.
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Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2012.08.18 15:26:00 -
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It's already been mentioned before but there has been 2 videos in which you saw some sort of structure on the ground that fired a laser toward the sky. So i think that bombarding dust players won't be risk free at all. (In one of the video it even one shots a moros , but i doubt it would be that powerful in the game). |
Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
51
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Posted - 2012.08.18 16:41:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:I was thinking about this ... we know that at launch DUST will only have an impact on high and low-sec planets. Also, and in all honesty, i'm not sure if planetary bombardment will come to the game before null-sec combat. But let's just assume that it does.
Is there any information on how exactly planetary bombardment will work on EVE side?! Will any and all pilots be free to unleash hell on DUST bunnies without any sort of pre-requisites?
When i read Ytterbium post about planetary bombardment destroyers, the idea of suicide ganking planets immediatly came to mind. Obviously we don't know how the mechanics will play out, but if its possible for dest pilots to freely bombard DUST bunnies then this will be hilarious.
Problem is, the way I understand how the planetary bombardment would is some one on the ground would have to give you a code, which you enter and you then bombard their target. Or something like that. That pretty eliminates the ability for you to just roll up on a planet and unleash hell's fury.
Besides, griefers are d-bags and deserve to be b-slapped all over the place. |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
212
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Posted - 2012.08.18 16:51:00 -
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I was thinking of the PI attack:
You must realize that the microorganisms out number the actual cells in the human body - this is a known fact. So, I set up my extractors for microorganisms, and plonk it down on top of a nest of Dust bunnies, thus squishing them, and simultaneously harvesting microorganisms, proteins, water, snippets and snails and puppy dog tails, and all that stuff humans are made of. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2012.08.18 18:05:00 -
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Once again, if DUST players have the capability to affect my EveO online world, we should be able to gank/attack/nuke the transports that bring DUST players to planets (wanna bet that they're "suddenly" on-planet in DUST?). Period. If that doesn't happen, CCP will have introduced YET ANOTHER unbalanced game into the world.
This one factor would force me to have all my toons in all my accounts join the biggest corps/alliances I can find SOLELY for the purpose of attacking said transports of DUST players. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
659
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Posted - 2012.08.18 18:24:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:I was thinking about this ... we know that at launch DUST will only have an impact on high and low-sec planets. Also, and in all honesty, i'm not sure if planetary bombardment will come to the game before null-sec combat. But let's just assume that it does.
Well, if you consider the console universe gaming experience as something with a learning curve rather different from eve then we have to also assume this wouldn't be possible in high sec, possible in low-sec with high level restrictions and drawbacks to be a free to shoot in null sec.
Imho this is what it looks like the "usual" difficulty risk/reward progression, but like you I'm just assuming.
Quote:Is there any information on how exactly planetary bombardment will work on EVE side?! Will any and all pilots be free to unleash hell on DUST bunnies without any sort of pre-requisites?
ATM looks like some mod you have to fix on to your ship (so no dedicated ship but probably skill to unlock it) and seems you're unable to do whatever else while this mod is activated, leaving you completely unable to do whatever if someone else decides to gank you.
Quote:When i read Ytterbium post about planetary bombardment destroyers, the idea of suicide ganking planets immediatly came to mind. Obviously we don't know how the mechanics will play out, but if its possible for dest pilots to freely bombard DUST bunnies then this will be hilarious.
Console players and market behind is completely different from Eve. The concept or two different games interacting in the same universe doesn't mean same laziness in terms of game mechanics like ganking, scaming, fake SS where -10 pirates can come and go in high sec etc, at least I hope so, Dust success will probably depend a lot of this or it will just be another game for "special" snowflake nerds like Eve.
brb |
Selinate
956
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Posted - 2012.08.18 18:33:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? I don't want to chat with them, I don't want to buy, sell or trade with them. I don't want to share resources with them..
I want to shoot them.
In the face.
easiest way to do this is to play dust... |
Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
114
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Posted - 2012.08.18 18:37:00 -
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Ashina Sito wrote:your forgetting the DUST 514 videos.
They will have the ability to gank that ship in orbit too............
Assuming they look up of course. They'll more than likely be too busy shooting each other to fight against us.
I for one completely support the idea of "Precision Strike" or "Nuke everything". |
Anya Doshu
The Angry Celtics
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:39:00 -
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Hiyora Akachi wrote:Ashina Sito wrote:your forgetting the DUST 514 videos.
They will have the ability to gank that ship in orbit too............ Assuming they look up of course. They'll more than likely be too busy shooting each other to fight against us. I for one completely support the idea of "Precision Strike" or "Nuke everything".
"Nuke Everything" wouldn't necessarily be a double cross. Losing the battle? Scorched Earth.
Infantry contracts will most likely soon include "insurance" for DUST 'fits' lost due to friendly fire from an orbital strike, whether as an emergent feature or through an escrow system. This would be a direct parallel to EvE corps that provide free hull/fit replacement for PvP ships. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
725
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:55:00 -
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Danger close!
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Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion
Fatal Ascension
45
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:40:00 -
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I look forward to running both side by side and nuking my own base. Pretty easy to do if you plan to play dust. Though if it doesnt go in at launch CCP will probably put in some safeguard where the commander has to approve bombardments or something.....so thenI just have to become a commander and nuke my scrubs. Its not like 99% of the players are gonna pay attention to who they are jumping into a match with. |
Wolf Kruol
Sinisenkuun Laguuni
GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:43:00 -
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Great idea OP. I give two thumbs up... CCP will hate this though.. I'm sure concord will save the mercs... 
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
828
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:54:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:I was thinking about this ... we know that at launch DUST will only have an impact on high and low-sec planets. Also, and in all honesty, i'm not sure if planetary bombardment will come to the game before null-sec combat. But let's just assume that it does.
Is there any information on how exactly planetary bombardment will work on EVE side?! Will any and all pilots be free to unleash hell on DUST bunnies without any sort of pre-requisites?
When i read Ytterbium post about planetary bombardment destroyers, the idea of suicide ganking planets immediatly came to mind. Obviously we don't know how the mechanics will play out, but if its possible for dest pilots to freely bombard DUST bunnies then this will be hilarious. Griefing console players will be the quickest way to kill Dust. Horrible idea imo.
No it's good.
ATM seems the bombardment module has specific drawbacks (you need support because you can't do whatever while using this mod) and also seems you can perfectly blow up bombardment ships from the planet surface.
Then you can also gank those bombarding in high sec or simply engage them in low sec with your cloacky bomber/T3 since they can't do whatever.
Hope those ganking bunnies in high sec get flag so they can be engaged by every one, this would bring more pvp targets, of course random risk averse pawn will cry because he's not safe bulling others, but those don't matter anyway.
brb |
Opertone
Aurora Empire
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
137
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:17:00 -
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the Japanse will become uber infantry soilders of all time in online FPS. (PS3 owners are mostly Japanese)
The harder the environment - the better the skill - I've been to the nightmare, and trust me you don't want to come out.
Bombardment will make them stronger, we will have a new race of planetary mercenaries.
One day CCP lets them into WiS and with guns, and there will be no survivors. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
178
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:20:00 -
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C'mon, man... DUSTies can screw with Eve players, but we can't screw with DUSTies.
That's perfectly fair, yeah? +1 for CCP Games. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
178
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:21:00 -
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Selinate wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? I don't want to chat with them, I don't want to buy, sell or trade with them. I don't want to share resources with them..
I want to shoot them.
In the face. easiest way to do this is to play dust...
Yeah, dump hundreds of $$$ into hardware to play ONE console game. Yeah, another WIN idea from EveO forums.  |
Devon Krah'tor
Magis.Erudire.Ratus.Knoen
2
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:32:00 -
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I think we're on to something here...
So the match starts, and everyone in orbit begins to randomly and without any limitations bombard the battlefield killing 95% of the Dusties on the surface. They respawn and are again killed by this bombardment. This continues until the game times out or everyone disconnects to it. This persists for every match being played everywhere in lowsec and finally the game utterly tanks because nobody really wants to play a Orbital Bombardee for that long. CCP is bankrupted and collapses, New eden dies.
Ultimate PvP win.
Greater.Insight.Skill.Knowledge |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
160
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:16:00 -
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With the bunnies having big guns that can shoot back at ships would be quite funny taking out smartarse gankers and griefers before they target locked  |
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
Republic Alliance
25
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:22:00 -
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Dust is doomed to fail, and it currently exists in my mind only as a marker on the road to a P2W/F2P/plex whoring Eve model. The console market by definition is a snatch and grab market. Get your product, drop it, milk it for a few months, and get the **** out. This is NOT what Eve is about. Apart from internet spaceships, Eve has and should always be about building a rich, risk rewarding, and long term gaming environment that grows over time in both scale and complexity.
The only way dust could work and be successful was if it was integrated directly into TQ/Eve client and allowed current subscribers to experience a new facet of eve. They could even still make money off of it by charging for a second 'dust client expansion'; at which point it essentially becomes a reincarnation of the old mom tactics, which honestly wouldn't be a bad thing. |
Cyrek Ohaya
Perkone
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:59:00 -
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I'll just press X and respawn back, problem? |
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
Republic Alliance
35
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Posted - 2012.10.16 22:04:00 -
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The whole concept behind dust is kind of bunk. I mean, what is more quintessential to eve than the fact that failing has consequences? What fps actually has consequences? You just respawn, there is no risk, and thus real reward. Such a mentality doesn't foster the kind of environment we enjoy as Eve players. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
253
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Posted - 2012.10.16 22:14:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:C'mon, man... DUSTies can screw with Eve players, but we can't screw with DUSTies.
That's perfectly fair, yeah? +1 for CCP Games.
It seems fair. They pay the subscriptions, we just play for free....
What? |
Generals4
1532
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Posted - 2012.10.16 22:58:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:You obviously never watched that part of fanfest, so let me explain how it works...
Dustbunny "paints" a target/area on the battlefield and a "launch code" is given. EVE player with a ship sits in orbit, with a certain fit for orbital bombardment. He imputs the launch code on a pop-up when the module is activated. Then you get to shoot at said planet, and only at the target that's "painted".
This issue can easily be solved. Make Dust character, have fun painting targets all the time while bombarding with your EVE main. And just to make it clear you're an EVE d*ckhead paint your friendlies too. Actually i think i might sell this service since i own a PS3 "WTS opportunities to bomb dustbunnies"
-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
Selinate
1044
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:01:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Selinate wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? I don't want to chat with them, I don't want to buy, sell or trade with them. I don't want to share resources with them..
I want to shoot them.
In the face. easiest way to do this is to play dust... Yeah, dump hundreds of $$$ into hardware to play ONE console game. Yeah, another WIN idea from EveO forums.
People dump hundreds (sometimes thousands) of $$$ to play one PC game (Eve) quite often. So for some, it's not a bad idea.
Though getting on a game forum to ***** about how unfair the game company is to you through another game is a pretty win idea, I guess. |
Nolindor Blamed
Conflagration Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:01:00 -
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suicide ganking...yup how the eve player base works, driving away the new players, to keep the old players. |
Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis
Dragehund
43
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Posted - 2012.10.17 00:34:00 -
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Hiyora Akachi wrote:If only we could indiscriminately bomb them from orbit. The rage would be GLORIOUS.
Yeah, but imagine the rage flowing the other way when they then introduce something like the Bolo Mark XXX that can take out DN class ships from the surface (and would only be fair, let them have a chance at ganking ships in orbit)
I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service. |
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