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jimmy alt
Creative Export
Black Pearl Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:52:00 -
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So Moon goo in the belts and making T2 production similar to T3 production in the respect that all materials have to be actively procured by players before going to a tower for reacting. I think this would be a missive sovereignty space equalizer. |
Jim Era
Viziam
Amarr Empire
743
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:54:00 -
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You are not my alt
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highonpop
Void.Tech
Fatal Ascension
210
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:59:00 -
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I like the idea of adding pockets of raw materials around the system, but idk about putting moon goo in belts.
Personally I like the idea of having pockets that need to be scanned (like a grav site) that contain raw materials other than minerals. Maybe have sites that have platinum, cobalt, etc...
Have the availability of these pockets work just like grav sites in SOV territory. Tie it to the the Industry index of that system and an IHub upgrade similar to the Ore Prospecting Array
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
873
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:00:00 -
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Ring mining is not like today's belts. |
Denidil
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
478
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:09:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Ring mining is not like today's belts.
actually we don't know anything about it.
If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
Unified Church of the Unobligated
604
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:13:00 -
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Goo
Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method
Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
496
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:24:00 -
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Having moon materials free to mine without having POS set up at a moon is an absolutely terrible idea. It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null.
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Cadfael Maelgwyn
Immortals of New Eden
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
134
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:26:00 -
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Watch out, or the goo will get you. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
873
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:27:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null.
You mean like controlling the space in which specific belts form? Noooo, that wont drive conflict at all.
Where are all the timers to worry about!? Thats not 0.0 at all. |
Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:38:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Having moon materials free to mine without having POS set up at a moon is an absolutely terrible idea. It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null.
Question exactly how much conflict is going on over moon goo in null? Last I heard nobody is fighting over it.
Herr Hammer Draken
"The Amarr Prophet" |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
525
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:44:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Having moon materials free to mine without having POS set up at a moon is an absolutely terrible idea. It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null.
You mean it eliminates a massive source of income for little effort. If it was a MAJOR source of conflict for low and null, they both would not be ghost towns and any you would still need POS to process the raw materials.
It would just be an active income source rather than a passive one and it would mean that players gain the profits of the resources not alliances.
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Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
28
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:48:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Having moon materials free to mine without having POS set up at a moon is an absolutely terrible idea. It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null.
Depends on amounts. So long as moon mining produces the majority and having gathered being a scarcity it really doesn't disincentivize controlling moons. So long as they are profitable.
Frying Doom wrote:
You mean it eliminates a massive source of income for little effort. If it was a MAJOR source of conflict for low and null, they both would not be ghost towns and any you would still need POS to process the raw materials.
It would just be an active income source rather than a passive one and it would mean that players gain the profits of the resources not alliances.
I take it you have never ran reaction chains in deep 0.0. They are far from being passive. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
654
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:52:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Having moon materials free to mine without having POS set up at a moon is an absolutely terrible idea. It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null. Question exactly how much conflict is going on over moon goo in null? Last I heard nobody is fighting over it.
Heard say'in someone lost 16 SC's because they were bored and didn't even wanted those. 
brb |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
499
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:52:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Having moon materials free to mine without having POS set up at a moon is an absolutely terrible idea. It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null. Question exactly how much conflict is going on over moon goo in null? Last I heard nobody is fighting over it.
Last I heard we're fighting over it up in Tribute.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
525
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Posted - 2012.08.15 22:15:00 -
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Syler Puuntai wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Having moon materials free to mine without having POS set up at a moon is an absolutely terrible idea. It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null. Depends on amounts. So long as moon mining produces the majority and having gathered being a scarcity it really doesn't disincentivize controlling moons. So long as they are profitable. Frying Doom wrote:
You mean it eliminates a massive source of income for little effort. If it was a MAJOR source of conflict for low and null, they both would not be ghost towns and any you would still need POS to process the raw materials.
It would just be an active income source rather than a passive one and it would mean that players gain the profits of the resources not alliances.
I take it you have never ran reaction chains in deep 0.0. They are far from being passive.
Yes and they are far from active.
You know like actually having to be there to make isk.
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Russell Casey
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2012.08.15 23:45:00 -
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Make sure this goo only spawns in highsec. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1840
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Posted - 2012.08.16 00:37:00 -
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Russell Casey wrote:Make sure this goo only spawns in highsec.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
500
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Posted - 2012.08.16 01:37:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Syler Puuntai wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Having moon materials free to mine without having POS set up at a moon is an absolutely terrible idea. It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null. Depends on amounts. So long as moon mining produces the majority and having gathered being a scarcity it really doesn't disincentivize controlling moons. So long as they are profitable. Frying Doom wrote:
You mean it eliminates a massive source of income for little effort. If it was a MAJOR source of conflict for low and null, they both would not be ghost towns and any you would still need POS to process the raw materials.
It would just be an active income source rather than a passive one and it would mean that players gain the profits of the resources not alliances.
I take it you have never ran reaction chains in deep 0.0. They are far from being passive. Yes and they are far from active. You know like actually having to be there to make isk.
Yeah, because the moons just print money, it's not like you actually have to set up the POS, defend it, and truck the materials on up to highsec in order to make money off of them.
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.08.16 07:35:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Having moon materials free to mine without having POS set up at a moon is an absolutely terrible idea. It eliminates a major incentive for conflict in low and null.
The main OP's idea is to make mining those materials into a tank that require active participation. Bonus points if it'll be fun to do. POS setup is important, fine, there are limitless ways to make POS in that particular system neccessary for this sort of activity, but without making it passively mine materials over time.
While they still need reaction, logistics and stuff, it's not like it's reactions that are bottleneck of this production.
Speaking of effort put into assets protection, well, many things require different people to be involved. Some defend position, some produce stuff...
Eh, disregard that, just a few wild thoughts. |
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