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CCP Fallout	Posted - 2011.01.12 14:47:00 - [1] It is here! CCP Alice's blog on the new forums. Enjoy! Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us

Zuju Minmatar Talocan Strategic Expansion Revival Of The Talocan Empire	Posted - 2011.01.12 14:52:00 - [2] Edited by: Zuju on 12/01/2011 14:55:40 Edited by: Zuju on 12/01/2011 14:54:07 Edited by: Zuju on 12/01/2011 14:51:49 first Also IBC. Its fantastic to see the forums get a much needed upgrade and the new search might put eve search out of business. Also Stormies might look cool, but with a blaster they are only as effective as the old pic. War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.12 14:55:00 - [3] In before content mafia taking down the devblog because of star wars imagery.
Grady Eltoren Minmatar UNITED STATES ARMY	Posted - 2011.01.12 14:58:00 - [4] ROFL - Fricken love it! Best dev blog pictures ever. Epic Win \0/ P.S. The Eve gate forums changes are PERFECT! Way to go CCP! Cannot wait for the changes! REALLY COOL! Good job! Aviation Professionals for EVE (APEVE)
Evelgrivion Ignatium.	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:00:00 - [5] Regarding ideas discussion and the current implementation (Jita Speakers and Features and Ideas), how are feature suggestions and their relevant discussions being implemented in the new Forum system?
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:05:00 - [6] IBTC support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
Casiella Truza Ghost Festival Naraka.	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:09:00 - [7] Very glad to see this, though I admit that I have my doubts about how well the "like" button and such will work here... --
lylaal M. Corp	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:09:00 - [8] this will be a very big improvement. now we will actually use evegate
Dierdra Vaal	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:10:00 - [9] IBC :D \o/ @ working search * * * Director of Education :: EVE University * * * CSM1 delegate, CSM3 chairman and CSM5 vice-chairman
particle9 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:16:00 - [10] you guys are ******ed, this is stupid. it is 2011 and you are bragging about developing a forum that works like vb2 way to go morans
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:18:00 - [11] Originally by: particle9 Personal attacks removed. Spitfire I can't seem to find the 'like' button for this post. My forum experience is substandard as a result :(
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:19:00 - [12] Originally by: particle9 Personal attacks removed. Spitfire +rep
Dramaticus GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:20:00 - [13] is it going to be possible to import my rep from goonfleet dot com Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan
Sabetha Belacoros	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:20:00 - [14] Is the new forum based on IPB? Or perhaps something custom?
Mr LaForge	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:21:00 - [15] Liking the search box. Disliked the comparison of A-holes to Stormtroopers. They're trying their best afterall.
Hemmo Paskiainen Gallente Silver Snake Enterprise	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:21:00 - [16] cool, does that mean that u have more time now to fix the black op ships? Fix Black Ops: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1204416
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:22:00 - [17] Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds? Logging in every single time I want to post is a non-negotiable part of my enjoyment of the EVE Online Forum Experience. Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
Gogela Freeport Exploration	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Mr LaForge Liking the search box. Disliked the comparison of A-holes to Stormtroopers. They're trying their best afterall. Trying counts for squat. Hay! Nice work CCP! Looking forward to an RSS feed of search criteria... that's really going to come in handy. /me impressed. ------------------------------------ "A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie."
Trebor Daehdoow	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:26:00 - [19] Originally by: Malcanis Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds? Logging in every single time I want to post is a non-negotiable part of my enjoyment of the EVE Online Forum Experience. This crucial detail was discussed at the December Summit. To quote the relevant minutes: "The new forums will not randomly log you out anymore, although there was significant support in the CSM for restoring this beloved legacy feature." I personally am pushing CCP Alice to add random logout as a preference setting. Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician The most expensive free trip to Iceland you'll ever win!
ArchenTheGreat Caldari Nomads of Zen	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:27:00 - [20] Please revise your censoring code. So I can write "** Tracy sat in a pit of his ship and sip his *rdly cocktail" whithout any tricks. I can understand (for some extent) censoring or * or **. Maybe you should make your game 18+. It would not affect your sales in any way. Parents don't control what their children play nowadays. They all expect government/corporations to do parenting. You have game with slavery, mass murders, narcotics. Is swear word really such a deal?
Wollari Phoenix Industries Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:28:00 - [21] Will the limit of characters be increased per posting? So we don't need to create 10 postings to start a new and big postings (application descriptions, feature listings, titan listing thread, etc, etc, etc)
particle9 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:31:00 - [22] i apologize for personally attacking an unidentified corporate entity for bragging about adding features all web forums have had for 5-6 years. soz m8
Lothris Andastar	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:32:00 - [23] Unless Chribba (IBC) has a Veldspar coloured badge, I don't care.
riverini Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:34:00 - [24] GERMAN GIGGLES IN HD! tis is gonna be gud! riverini

CCP Fallout	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:36:00 - [25] Originally by: ArchenTheGreat Please revise your censoring code. So I can write "** Tracy sat in a pit of his ship and sip his *rdly cocktail" whithout any tricks. I can understand (for some extent) censoring or * or . Maybe you should make your game 18+. It would not affect your sales in any way. Parents don't control what their children play nowadays. They all expect government/corporations to do parenting. You have game with slavery, mass murders, narcotics. Is swear word really such a deal? You can always petition and ask for words to be white listed, like pit and *rdly :) Fallout Associate Community Manager** CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us

MailDeadDrop The Collective	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:37:00 - [26] Is the badging permanently applied? I suspect that the badging is a "current status" thing, which means that as soon as a character ceases to be a member of the CSM, all their CSM-badged posts made while they were a member of the CSM suddenly become plain posts. MDD
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:38:00 - [27] Edited by: Zagdul on 12/01/2011 15:38:07 finally edit: fail, missed an L
Twogre	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:39:00 - [28] RSS Feeds? Great! Just don't forget to include PubSubHubBub pings for them. We love instant updates here in 201x's
Shepard Book Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:41:00 - [29] It looks good
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:41:00 - [30] Regarding this "Threads with DEV or GM posts are highlighted by a colored badge." Can you make these bright for threads with DEV posts we haven't read, dim for threads where we have read all DEV posts, or some other indicator? i.e. Right now if I go read a thread highlighted red, because I want to know what the DEV has to say, and then maybe I come back in an hour and see 100 new posts. I have no idea if any of those new posts are from the DEV, further responding to whatever ~~troll~~ awesome idea OP came up with. Same for GM posts of course. Also, stop locking threads after 90 days with the new forums :P I understand there's probably a very good reason for this (although I don't know what), but there are a lot of suggestions I've come across I'd rather just bump with my comments because I support the idea, instead of starting a new thread, but I have to start a new thread if I have something to add because it's locked! Same with several tech support issues. I hope this "feature" won't carry over at all, but if it does, consider removing it from strategic parts of the forum, such as suggestions and tech support. Last thing, I didn't see this, but it's a pretty standard feature on a LOT of forums (pretty much every one I've used) which is, when you post, an option to email "Notify me when a reply is posted" updates. RSS feed is a HUGE step forward, but I find the email updates work better for temporarily following a topic I'm really interested in. I hope this is included. TLDR Light/Dark Dev/GM badges for new/old posts Stop the auto locking 90 days thread thing Email "Notify me when a reply is posted" updates Else, great job! and huge steps forward!
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:42:00 - [31] Awesome job, Blizz. Will the new forum avatars show the clothes we are wearing and our latest hairstyle too? Also, if we could get options for full body or just head and torso, and for them to rotate? That would be peachy!
Makko Gray Nexus Aerospace Corporation	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:43:00 - [32] Originally by: Hemmo Paskiainen cool, does that mean that u have more time now to fix the black op ships? Yeah, because ASP.NET web developers know all about game development in C and Python. Then if they're not too busy they could perform brain surgery on my aunt. I presume it's done in ASP.NET anyhow - would love a post covering more technical detail such as what solutions and components you've used to tackle the problems you faced. Would I be right in thinking you've gone down the route of ASP.NET MVC - how have you approached search, are you using basic full text indexing or are you using something such as Lucene. These things interest me.
particle9 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:44:00 - [33] can you make it so that our blinging medals are shown and maybe all of our certifications, certifications are hardly used it is so sad!!!1!
Yiorgos P Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:45:00 - [34] Nice job with the new ideas and pics, but is the forum going to have the same speed as your current eve gate implementation? If yes, please, reconsider and leave the current forum. It might not be nice, and lack the new search, etc. features, but at least is operational, kind of.
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:48:00 - [35] A "dislike" button is an absolute requirement.
Kerfira Kerfira Corp	Posted - 2011.01.12 15:48:00 - [36] Originally by: CCP Alice Now it just remains to be seen who will get that coveted /first post. Lock the forum until Chribba has had the first post! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:03:00 - [37] Any chance we can get an RSS feed for the broadcast log and maybe EVE Gate groups so we can aggregate feeds from different people? Azia Burgi http://aziaburgi.me.uk BP Profit Calculator EVE Cemetery
K'tanno Zero Point Group	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:05:00 - [38] I was very happy after seeing this. They look wonderful, and much nicer than what we're using now. Then a corpmate of mine said this to me via email: Originally by: "Aidan Patrick" About ****ing time!!! Just needs corp forums built in. I would LOVE to see corporation forums built into EVE Gate. CEO's would need to be able to set them public or corp-only, maybe even have access by standing? Directors would have moderation access to their corp's forum (making stickies, moving/deleting posts, etc).
K'tanno Zero Point Group	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:07:00 - [39] Edited by: K''tanno on 12/01/2011 16:07:50 Originally by: Azia Burgi Any chance we can get an RSS feed for the broadcast log and maybe EVE Gate groups so we can aggregate feeds from different people? That's another thing. I'd like to have the EVE Gate broadcasts accessible in-game. We already have a mail/notification system capable of displaying it. Make a Broadcasts tab so that people can send/receive them in-game too! That'd be nice.

CCP Alice Caldari C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:14:00 - [40] I'll try to answer what I can here, as best I can okay :) Originally by: Tres Farmer Edited by: Tres Farmer on 12/01/2011 15:15:34 IBTC edit: How does the badge look when DEV, CSM, GM and ISD have answered in the thread? Or does this only work for OP being by that aforementioned guys? edit2: Any news/details on Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums? I thought you would at least say some words about those.. The badge shows up if a DEV or GM started a new thread or replied in one(same as it is now). You can see it in this image from the blog. CSM and ISD don't have badges in this view, but they do have a grey badge over their avatar in the thread itself when they post something. Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though..

Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:15:00 - [41] Originally by: K'tanno That's another thing. I'd like to have the EVE Gate broadcasts accessible in-game. We already have a mail/notification system capable of displaying it. Make a Broadcasts tab so that people can send/receive them in-game too! That'd be nice. Yeah, I hate how it logs you out every time you close the IGB. While I remember can you test the usability with various smartphones. You can't send mails via eve gate on my 'droid, it keeps selecting the background image and won't spawn the keyboard. Oh and the "comment" link doesn't work on 'droid either. So far have only used EVE gate while on holiday and while waiting for trains. Azia Burgi http://aziaburgi.me.uk BP Profit Calculator EVE Cemetery
EdwardNardella Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:16:00 - [42] I heard that fancy "share" buttons like the one you described are often used to track users browsing habits across different websites. Have you worked hard to make sure that this does not happen? CCRES is recruiting pilots who want to live in WSpace/Wormholes. Fill out an application here!
Illrean	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:19:00 - [43] Something I would like to see is a button in any post by a Dev/GM etc etc that will bring you to the next post in that thread by a dev/GM etc etc.
Takeshi Ryuu Infernal laboratory Blind Octopus	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:19:00 - [44] If you are going to improve Eve Gate, then can you please make the most usefull improvement ever - make it OpenID provider.

CCP Alice Caldari C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Malcanis Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds? Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow Originally by: Malcanis Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds? Logging in every single time I want to post is a non-negotiable part of my enjoyment of the EVE Online Forum Experience. This crucial detail was discussed at the December Summit. To quote the relevant minutes: "The new forums will not randomly log you out anymore, although there was significant support in the CSM for restoring this beloved legacy feature." I personally am pushing CCP Alice to add random logout as a preference setting. Haha yes I remember this during our discussion, made me smile! And I'm happy to say the new forums still don't support this feature :p

woddel Gallente Canis Industries Ltd Avaricious Cartel	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:22:00 - [46] Edited by: woddel on 12/01/2011 16:24:11 hia ccp devs yes, that looks nice and promising. there are only two things i would like to comment on which you might consider: - try to make the whole stuff vertically a bit more compact. lot's of unused space looks sleek, but results in more scrolling and worse readability. this counts especially for the channel view pages. also on the detail pages: one having a 'mobile' device or netbook with like 1024*768 screen res gets to see like two single posts before scrolling himself to death. - if you prefer more pages with less content and therefore more page switching (like the 20 threads on the channel views where there could easely be like 30 or 40) - be sure the make the performance work so you don't have to wait to long to click and click and click and stuff. page rendering should take like less that 125 ms - under load... this does not always seem to be the case with eve gate at the moment.) but keep up the good work. too bad you don't import the old stuff, but i guess that would be too cruel to such a nice clean sheet (until it is stained, dirty and bloody from daily use anyway within a few hours). woddel --- creator and maintainer of eve commander - complete web based character information tool and ec agent finder
Iamien Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:24:00 - [47] Edited by: Iamien on 12/01/2011 16:35:14 Can we add EveGate as a trusted site and then be auto-logged in when we use the IGB and thus able to reply quickly? Lets say I'm logged in as Iamien and someone links a forum thread in-game. Can I just click the link and then reply without having to login? Also if you decide to reply to my post: Any progress on the CSM suggestion that we get to re-order the channels to our liking? It would be useful to have the 4 channels that I care about at the top with the others below it. One last thing, Please include the title(truncated if needbe) of the last-posted-in topic next to the last post date, in order to quickly see what is being discussed in the entire forum with one view. This will help kill the dead-space between the forum title and the last post date.
Aidan Patrick Zero Point Group	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:25:00 - [48] Originally by: K'tanno Edited by: K''tanno on 12/01/2011 16:08:08 I was very happy after seeing this. They look wonderful, and much nicer than what we're using now. Then a corpmate of mine said this to me via email: Originally by: "Aidan Patrick" About ****ing time!!! Just needs corp forums built in. I would LOVE to see corporation forums built into EVE Gate. CEO's would need to be able to set them public or corp-only, maybe even have access by standing? Directors would have moderation access to their corp's forum (making stickies, moving/deleting posts, etc). Must say while it was expected and mentioned in the past that this was coming, I'm very excited to see it finally come to fruition. Now with that said I have a couple things I want to add: First, corporate forums. Yep, as my corpie posted I think they need to be added. But keep it simple, stupid. (lawl...) Only members of the corporation and view or post in it, and the CEO/Directors are given moderator access. This prevents any need to screw with the roles system or create an extra system of control on the forums themselves. Each corp forum would be automatically created upon corp creation, and deleted upon corp closing. The same system would be created for alliances with the CEO of every corp in the alliance having moderation privileges. Corp and alliance forums would then be only shown in the list of forums for members of the appropriate corp and alliance. These corporation forums would thus allow you to provide easier communication, more avenues for spying, or providing counter espionage and it brings the social aspect of eve out of game, while keeping it connected. Now that I got my spliel about corp forums out of the way... I have some other concerns about EVE Gate. First and foremost, nothing should be able to be done on EVE gate that cannot be done in game. For instance, Broadcasts. At this point in time to make a broadcast you need to load a browser (either in game or out of game) and post it, pulling you AWAY from the game. This is poor design plain and simple. Second, when playing, you have no active or automatic notification of broadcasts. This is an even poorer design. It turns broadcasts into a delayed message system, which defeats the whole purpose of what I perceive the broadcast system is for, and at this point you might as well just use EVE Mail, because it actually sends a notification. So fix that too please. Even if a broadcast is just sent via Notification to anyone who would be able to see it, it needs to be done. - Aidan Patrick

CCP Alice Caldari C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:29:00 - [49] Originally by: Dierdra Vaal But will I be able to restrict my search to a few subforums at once? For example: Search for topics in both the Assembly Hall forum and the Jita Speakers Corner forum. Not in this version, but that is one of the ideas we thought of as well for adding to search in the future. Another one was to be able to search within a time-frame, think that would be really useful too.

Komen Gallente Flying Target LLC	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:31:00 - [50] Originally by: CCP Alice Originally by: Malcanis Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds? Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow Originally by: Malcanis Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds? Logging in every single time I want to post is a non-negotiable part of my enjoyment of the EVE Online Forum Experience. This crucial detail was discussed at the December Summit. To quote the relevant minutes: "The new forums will not randomly log you out anymore, although there was significant support in the CSM for restoring this beloved legacy feature." I personally am pushing CCP Alice to add random logout as a preference setting. Haha yes I remember this during our discussion, made me smile! And I'm happy to say the new forums still don't support this feature :p I've never even had this happen. And now I never will. I feel I shall have missed out, somehow.
Grez Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:32:00 - [51] Edited by: Grez on 12/01/2011 16:32:27 Can you add the "Jump to post" icon to the channel view? I only see it on the forum view, and I would MUCH rather have it on the channel view than the forum view. ---
dungabee Minmatar Molden Heath Software Company	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:42:00 - [52] Screenshots look good - well done CCP. Now my question is when will CCP make EveGate as secure as the main Eve website? When I login to eveonline.com, it asks me a security question such as "type in the name of one of your characters". In EveGate you can login with the same details and see the answer to that very question. This security question is completely redundant while EveGate doesn't have it.
Iamien Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:44:00 - [53] Edited by: Iamien on 12/01/2011 16:49:48 Originally by: CCP Alice We still have a lot of work remaining before we launch the forum on EVE Gate, as we want to launch with a solidly working, polished product. Before we commit to a final design and implementation, we want to get your feedback. To that end, we are going to put the new forum technology up on Singularity first and have you begin evaluating it next week Is this the sly way of telling us that the new forums will not be coming with the rest of incursion pt 3 on the 18th? If so you may want to take it off the feature page.
H3llHound Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:44:00 - [54] Did I read this correctly? The new forum will not have any playermade posts in them when launched? So you wont bring any threads over from the old forum to the new one? Even those which arent locked? Can you add a dislike button? Is it possible when we have threads with multiple pages to highlight the threads page-links(The 1,2,3,..etc) in blue/red when a dev posted on that page. Often saves browsing through 10 pages of thread and ultimatly finding that the devs havent responded since the last time I checked. Can you make notifications when a thread of mine was replied to/locked? Can you make a list of all the threads I started? Off-topic: Can you make eve-gate show me if I have notifications pending and not just mails? ~~Recruiting~~ │3rd Party Service
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:47:00 - [55] Originally by: Kerfira Originally by: CCP Alice Now it just remains to be seen who will get that coveted /first post. Lock the forum until Chribba has had the first post! +9000 to this one!!! You owe it to Chribba. support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
The Snowman Gallente The Ascension	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:47:00 - [56] Wow, do that many shades of grey really exist?
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:51:00 - [57] I always had the slight suspicion that I was surrounded by A..holes on the old forum. Thnx for the CCP sanctioned heads up. New fora will be populated by obedient clones. Yay? ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Okie Wren	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:54:00 - [58] Awesome! Though may I suggest a button that takes you to the next Dev or GM comment in the thread?
Miles Dekkon	Posted - 2011.01.12 16:57:00 - [59] is the evegate ever going to be mobile ready? is there someone working on the CSS?
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:00:00 - [60] Looks good. The forum needs a clickable path to the current page (Forums/Section/Thread/etc.) at the bottom of each page as well as the top. ...
Myxx Risen Angels	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:03:00 - [61] Would like an ignore feature, so I can choose to not see some people's posts at all, across the entire board. preferably tied to the ingame block list, or something. -- Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Keiko Kobayashi Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:06:00 - [62] What about corp and alliance forums?
Femaref Armageddon Day WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:06:00 - [63] Originally by: EdwardNardella I heard that fancy "share" buttons like the one you described are often used to track users browsing habits across different websites. Have you worked hard to make sure that this does not happen? I'd like an answer to this one as well.
Trebor Daehdoow	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:16:00 - [64] Edited by: Trebor Daehdoow on 12/01/2011 17:16:30 Originally by: MailDeadDrop Is the badging permanently applied? I suspect that the badging is a "current status" thing, which means that as soon as a character ceases to be a member of the CSM, all their CSM-badged posts made while they were a member of the CSM suddenly become plain posts. CSM, being a gang of pathetic attention whres, immediately raised this issue during our briefing on the new forums in December. It's in the minutes. Originally by:* CCP Alice Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow This crucial detail was discussed at the December Summit. To quote the relevant minutes: "The new forums will not randomly log you out anymore, although there was significant support in the CSM for restoring this beloved legacy feature." I personally am pushing CCP Alice to add random logout as a preference setting. Haha yes I remember this during our discussion, made me smile! And I'm happy to say the new forums still don't support this feature :p Just another typical case of CCP devs not delivering what the players clearly want. Your spork is hanging by a thread, Alice. Can we at least have a random chance of it happening, based on the length of the post and the ratio of new material to quoting? It would encourage conciseness and courtesy... I now press "Post Reply" in the sure knowledge that my session will have timed out... Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician The most expensive free trip to Iceland you'll ever win!
Miss Teri Bullet Diplomacy Art of War Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:19:00 - [65] Originally by: CCP Alice The old forum will remain on eveonline.com in an archived state for read only reference and won't be ported to the new forum. This was a technical decision and besides, we are all happy to start with a nice, clean slate on our awesome new forum. That does not make any sense to me. Why throw away 8 years of topics? Why force us to search two forums when looking for information? Heck, if I were doing this project, being able to import data from the old forum into the new one would be pretty high on my list. Lots of real-world data to test the new forum features with. So if you're not going to do this, please explain this "technical decision" in more detail.
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:22:00 - [66] Marketplace -> Sell Orders. Needs a split for services, items and anything else under the sun (lotteries and whatnots). Was the opportunity taken to re-organize the above, or will we still be seeing the same old haystack? P.S Iirc this was brought in one of the CSM meetings.
dkbjitawhore	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:26:00 - [67] Originally by: Sturmwolke P.S Iirc this was brought in one of the CSM meetings. Thinking that CSM input means anything. The only time the CSM are relevant is when we get angry enough about a particular issue, only then does CSM input get used.
waynemcbain Caldari Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Syndicate.	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:28:00 - [68] Originally by: Keiko Kobayashi What about corp and alliance forums?
Mooney92 Minmatar Absolutely NullnVoid	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:32:00 - [69] Originally by: CCP Fallout Originally by: ArchenTheGreat Please revise your censoring code. So I can write "** Tracy sat in a cockpit of his ship and sip his niggardly cocktail" whithout any tricks. I can understand (for some extent) censoring or * or **. Maybe you should make your game 18+. It would not affect your sales in any way. Parents don't control what their children play nowadays. They all expect government/corporations to do parenting. You have game with slavery, mass murders, narcotics. Is swear word really such a deal? You can always petition and ask for words to be white listed, like cockpit and niggardly :) This is what makes GMs and Devs epic sauce compared to the other games devs and gms who are simply carebears. Just saying... Hurp Durp "We are only as strong as we stand united and only as weak as we stand divided" - Dumbledore
Okie Wren	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:32:00 - [70] Edited by: Okie Wren on 12/01/2011 17:33:07 Originally by: waynemcbain What about corp and alliance forums? Quote: 1) The initial roll-out will not include corporation or alliance forums, but this is planned for the future. However, the roadmap is still being worked out, so the order in which new EVE-Gate features such as special forums will be implemented is still up in the air. From CSM minutes 1 of 3. Introductory dev blog here. Hope it helpz.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:38:00 - [71] How often will the new search index be updated? Will we only get the RSS updates once per day, or will they be sent out in real-time? --- 34.4:1 mineral compression
Nikolai Kondratiev Sphere Design Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:40:00 - [72] This is Eve Online, we should have "Hate" buttons, not "Like" ones! _ Ore Table \| PI Profits
Hawk TT Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers RED Citizens	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:51:00 - [73] OK, some preliminary feedback, based on the Dev Blog, the additional screenshot and the Dev replies: 1) Function: "Dislike" button is mandatory! 2) Function: Character Approval Rating based on the average Likes/Dislikes received for his/her posts or other similar system based on direct player-to-player scoring would be good for filtering "Trolls" 3) Layout: Having an icon for "Hot topics" is mandatory! 4) Layout: CSM / ISD badges should be visually distinguishable: e.g. [CSM] and [ISD] 5) Layout: The UI looks like AJAX - if this is the case, would it be possible to have resizeable columns? As far as I see from the screenshots, the current layout wastes lots of vertical space, due to having two lines of text in some columns (like the last column). 6) Layout: Sort by columns? 7) Search: Show results "As topics" and "As posts" option is quite important, especially for the hot threads with lot of posts 8) Search: Filter by "Date / Time" (ok, ok, future version) 9) Search: Filter not only by DEV / GM, but by CSM / ISD is important 10) Function / Search: "Show posts from" should not be limited to the last 20-25 posts like it is now... 11) Function: Show forum statistics per character would be great - look at the new features of EVE-Search 12) Function: Survey Topics (every phpBB forum has it for ages) - very useful for everyone, but especially for quick'n'dirty CSM inquiries 13) Bug fix: Remembering the default character for each account is mandatory! This is buggy with the current implementation. 14) Nice to have: More emoticons 15) Nice to have: Default setting in the profile for "Preview your post" 16) Nice to have: Better layout and rendering of Numbered & Bullet lists (without the stupid empty paragraphs) 17) Nice to have: Picture / Video storage, so we don't have to rely on 3rd party services. If you check some older posts, you will see that the pictures are missing / links are broken. ___________________________________ BECKS
Glyken Touchon Independent Alchemists	Posted - 2011.01.12 17:52:00 - [74] quote=CCP Alice]Now it just remains to be seen who will get that coveted /first post. more to the point, who will reincarnate the dead horse?
Mynxee	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:00:00 - [75] Looks pretty. Assembly Hall needs at minimum a Dislike or Unsupported button, with statistics for Like/Support and Dislike/Unsupported stats summarized at the top of each thread. It is simply ridiculous to expect CSM delegates to have to count those statistics up manually, especially for active or older threads with a lot of pages. And yet, that information is necessary as part of assessing a given proposal. I guess EVE-Search will still be a vital third party tool for searching archived forums if the new Search feature isn't going to work with all those years and years of posts. Probably be a good time to set up a category on EVElopedia for Forum Archives, so that people can create themed lists of links that provide easy access to archived threads of ongoing interest. Life In Low Sec
Boxless	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:04:00 - [76] Originally by: Iamien Edited by: Iamien on 12/01/2011 16:49:48 Originally by: CCP Alice We still have a lot of work remaining before we launch the forum on EVE Gate, as we want to launch with a solidly working, polished product. Before we commit to a final design and implementation, we want to get your feedback. To that end, we are going to put the new forum technology up on Singularity first and have you begin evaluating it next week Is this the sly way of telling us that the new forums will not be coming with the rest of incursion pt 3 on the 18th? If so you may want to take it off the feature page. Sounds like it to me.
Leon Razor Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:06:00 - [77] Originally by: Illrean Something I would like to see is a button in any post by a Dev/GM etc etc that will bring you to the next post in that thread by a dev/GM etc etc. I was just about to post this suggestion as well. It's no fun paging through a 50+ page threadnaught just to see if a DEV has had anything to say about it. I love that we are getting finally getting new forums though.
Dazram	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:07:00 - [78] Looks fantastic!! /thumbs up
Dav Varan	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:19:00 - [79] The ability to create Polls would be nice.
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:20:00 - [80] Quote: Admittedly, the old forum search function was not up to modern standards. It was up to some kind of standard?! Really, which one?
Evelgrivion Ignatium.	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:24:00 - [81] Originally by: CCP Alice Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though.. As things stand, there isn't a clear distinction between Assembly Hall and Features and Ideas. F&I is a sort of catch-all for whatever concept comes to mind. Jita Speakers ends up catching more serious proposals because, unlike F&I, it gets attention from the CSM and other like-minded players for bringing up at summits. Unfortunately, F&I seems to be generally ignored. The distinction that needs to be made, in my view, is this; issues with existing game play, game balance, and game features need their own section. Ideas for content that expands on existing content in a new way, or is entirely new, needs a "new idea" section. The better discussions from these two areas should be brought to CCP and the CSM's attention, rather than simply paying attention to the one and bypassing the other. At least, that's how it should work in my ideal little world. Thoughts?
Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:25:00 - [82] Just had another idea, if we "like" a thread can a link of it automatically be sent to the broadcast log? Azia Burgi http://aziaburgi.me.uk BP Profit Calculator EVE Cemetery
Darth Vapour	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:30:00 - [83] Ah yes. Since no one() uses EVE-gate the money spent on it will have to be justified somehow so why not move features people actually use there ? () please contradict this if possible with number of users who do more then use it as a slightly faster EVE-mail reader.
Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:31:00 - [84] I want a feature for the assembly hall: Currently we can only support a thread. It would be nice to support, and deny the support for a feature. Maybe a pool, or something similar. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shields are like pants, they're supposed to come off. Armor is like the condom once its gone ur ****ed
Elsa Nietzsche	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:36:00 - [85] Originally by: CCP Alice Haha yes I remember this during our discussion, made me smile! And I'm happy to say the new forums still don't support this feature :p I too support the request for being able to search by post/topic date. I also request a counter to the "like" button. Can we get a troll button and then the option to hide posters with a troll count over a number we set?
Windle Poons Amarr Ankh-Morpork City Watch	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:37:00 - [86] 1) Will I be able to read the forum without logging in, will it remain public? 2) I DO NOT want any VACUOUS "LIKE" crap. The forum is not a popularity contest. 3) I DO NOT want any VACUOUS "Share" crap. The forum is not a popularity contest. You do not have to try and keep up with social networks. Is the forum moving in an attempt to get people to actually use the failed eve gate?
Evelgrivion Ignatium.	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:39:00 - [87] Originally by: Lost Hamster I want a feature for the assembly hall: Currently we can only support a thread. It would be nice to support, and deny the support for a feature. Maybe a pool, or something similar. I agree that such a feature is needed - with the stipulation of dislikes and likes being made public. It would be good to be able to take into account block-voting this way.
Mizhara Del'thul Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:41:00 - [88] "Like Each post has a Like button. This allows you to Like a post which is pretty self-explanatory! Once a post has been Liked, you'll see a running total of Likes received and also an option to Unlike if you change your mind. Underneath each poster's avatar there is a running total of the number of Likes they gave to posts and the number of Likes they have received for their posts. In the channel view you can see the total number of Likes for each thread, quickly highlighting hot topics." Ah yes, we really needed Facebook in Eve, didn't we? Great stuff. Let's turn the forums into popularity contests! Wonderful! ... wait, no it's not. There's a reason I play Eve, it's so I don't have to go around kissing arse. "Social Networking" is the freakin' bane of the internet. This particular forum decision? Congratulations, you just made the forums entirely worthless with that crap. Backstage @ Inspiracy. The new Eve RP Forums, now with 10% more fun!
Altaree The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:42:00 - [89] IBC. STILL?!? This is looking VERY nice. I can't wait to set up a dev tracking RSS feed and get that into google reader. My current yahoo pipes version can be a bit faulty... --Altaree
mkmin	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:49:00 - [90] Couple things: 1) "Like" needs "Dislike" to actually mean something. 2) don't call subforums "channels". There are already Channels in EVE, and having multiple things with the same name in one game proves yet again that the web devs don't play EVE. 3) "Share" was a waste of programming resources. People (you know, those who play the game, not those who are on the web team) go a long way to protect that one extra layer of anonymity between video game and internet. All in all, I hope this makes the forums better, rather than tries to cram the EVE player base into an image that the web devs seem to have for us.
Kile Kitmoore	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:50:00 - [91] Reply and Watch thread notifications via e-mail?
Aineko Macx	Posted - 2011.01.12 18:59:00 - [92] Edited by: Aineko Macx on 12/01/2011 18:58:45 Originally by: CCP Alice Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though.. Let's not dwell on your remarkable ability to ignore players and point you to a concrete proposal with 100% approval rating instead: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1252948 ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation.
Haradgrim Systematic Mercantilism	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:10:00 - [93] Oh, Snap! Thats secksae looking! -- Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:12:00 - [94] Originally by: Tres Farmer Originally by: Kerfira Originally by: CCP Alice Now it just remains to be seen who will get that coveted /first post. Lock the forum until Chribba has had the first post! +9000 to this one!!! You owe it to Chribba. hi this is why you need the dislike button so this trash can see how much everyone wants him to get out
Xailia Unsteady Corporation	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:12:00 - [95] Finally Snitz 2000 will be a long distant memory! It has been replaced with kittens and storm troopers! \o \o/ o/ "The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel."
Galandil	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:13:00 - [96] Edited by: Galandil on 12/01/2011 19:16:12 There was a feature that I like from the World of Warcraft forums (Shut up, I don't play that ** any more) that I wish that all MMO forums had. It was Jump to Next dev message button. It's rare but Sometimes when some threads get really long and it's nice to just jump from dev post to next dev post and read just their replies. Originally by:** Dev Admittedly, the old forum search function was not up to modern standards That's an understatment
Xailia Unsteady Corporation	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:21:00 - [97] Originally by: Galandil ...It was Jump to Next dev message button... Or maybe even better would be a "dev view" mode for threads, that shows only the dev/gm posts. Also a "Chribba mode" that shows only Chribba posts. "The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel."
Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:21:00 - [98] Originally by: Altaree IBC. STILL?!? I think someone might have unplugged him... Azia Burgi http://aziaburgi.me.uk BP Profit Calculator EVE Cemetery
Sedilis Lead Farmers	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:32:00 - [99] Quote: Admittedly, the old forum search function was not up to modern standards Hey you can't say that about eve-search.com! It works perfectly fine... oh wait you meant that box in the top right? Speaking of which is Chribba ok?
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:44:00 - [100] Edited by: Razin on 12/01/2011 19:46:04 Is there an option to disable the "like" and "share" functionality? If not, when do you plan to add this option? ...

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:46:00 - [101] In at the same time as myself! @forums... since they are on LT gate, will they be available to the public or do we need to log in to read them? Is there a way to see images/info without having to log on? Signature splitting in html? Will be interesting to see it's launch while I will miss the old forums coz they are cool. /c Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:53:00 - [102] in after the big C! and if "we are all happy to start with a nice, clean slate on our awesome new forum." what does that mean for forum bans
Dogo Duma	Posted - 2011.01.12 19:54:00 - [103] Originally by: Kile Kitmoore Reply and Watch thread notifications via e-mail? That would be so much more useful than Facebook "like" crap. It's a community forum. Not a ****ing contest, for that we have CAOD, look at how well that works and that even only has that kind of functionality with post contents. Seriously. Is Facebook all you guys do at work? Or doesn't anybody consider the negative impact potential of node crashes and outages and threadnoughts on Google exposure and advertising ....
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.12 20:05:00 - [104] Damn it, spent too much time reading. IAC :( @CCP: Welcome to the 21st century! Not importing the old forums is silly, though. Maybe leave all the 90locked posts dead if it's extra work, but all active threads have really got to be imported. It's not like it ought to be hard - just treat them as posts where the OP didn't specify any tags or anything. Surely you're not forced to tag, so leaving it blank ought to be fine. If an old post wants tags, the OP can edit them in. A few features that'd be nice: varying the number of posts on a page, "View as one page" like Eve Search has(which I always use to find dev posts on long threads, just keep page-downing until you hit blue bars), and an option to turn off the profanity filter. Also, very important question - is the 4000 character limit still in force? Or the ridiculously small number for sigs?
Gil Danastre Amarr 5TH Combat Training Squadron	Posted - 2011.01.12 20:12:00 - [105] So, is that really the best picture to compare the old to new forums? One looks shiner and cooler than the other, but neither can shoot the broad side of a barn Should we take that as a literal translation to forum usage and performance?
Javelin6 Dirt Nap Squad	Posted - 2011.01.12 20:39:00 - [106] Okay, first off hats off to the Devs for the new forums. Special kudos to the RSS feeds and the integration to Evegate. Very very cool. Now for the love of (your deity of choice), PLEASE give us RSS feeds for Corp/Personal Chatter and EVEMail too! Some sort of external notification of those is something that should have been included from day one of Evegate and cannot understand why is was not. Again, good job and please help us. ______________________________________________
Dreed Roberts	Posted - 2011.01.12 20:52:00 - [107] Probably been already covered, however I read the blog and had to say this. Where is the dislike button? - This isn't some happy clappy facebook app.
Hachi Ironfist Gallente Rubbish and Garbage Removal Bang Bang You're Dead	Posted - 2011.01.12 21:03:00 - [108] We NEED a dislike button!!!11oneone!sin^2(a)+cos^2(a)!! Seriously though, here is why: At this stage it's either you have an opinion (that you like what he posted) or you have NO opinion at all. This is not the answer! WE NEED to be able to say NO, I DON'T LIKE YOUR POST. So, please do implement a "Dislike" button , it's mandatory! (like some poster said above me , maybe even gray-out some posts that have too many dislikes! It's much better than having Like and nothing. p.s I hate facebook -.- (this being one of the reasons, the others being the privacy concerns)
Ben Derindar Dirty Deeds Corp.	Posted - 2011.01.12 21:03:00 - [109] Some various thoughts and concerns: Quote: Each post has a Share option, so you can share it to a social networking site of your choice outside of EVE Gate. These options open up some really nasty possibilities for the metagaming types. We already have forum dumps and DDOSed voice comms etc, and now anyone who isn't careful could reveal their RL identities to the world. You can't tell me some people won't take advantage of that. Quote: The old forum will remain on eveonline.com in an archived state for read only reference and won't be ported to the new forum. This was a technical decision and besides, we are all happy to start with a nice, clean slate on our awesome new forum. Sorry, but that reads like a cop-out. Obviously the underlying DB structure for each set of forums may be different to some degree, but I don't see how that can't be worked around. Need a better explanation for this please; I know you can do it, there have been one or two very nice techy blogs lately. Quote: For the ever busy amongst you, we have included a Quick Reply that will allow you to post a reply to a thread without loading a reply page with full formatting options. Will there still be a timer of some sort preventing too many posts too quickly? If not, then this Quick Reply feature is a very bad idea. Any post made without at least some thought put into it is a bad one. For proof of this, I give you CAOD. Quote: So now you can finally tro.. err, let the world know about your 1337 posting skillz! Speaking of which, where is the Report button? This is the single most important feature on the existing forums; how will anything ever get moderated in the new one without it? Quote: Each post has a Like button. This allows you to Like a post which is pretty self-explanatory! No it's not. I don't see the point of this at all, unless it's to prevent empty +1 posts particularly in places like the Assembly Hall, in which case you should also implement a minimum character length, as many will continue to post +1s anyway. Finally, I like my number columns right-aligned. That means fixing the Replies and Reads columns, please. /Ben
PC l0adletter	Posted - 2011.01.12 21:28:00 - [110] This looks nice despite being way, way, way overdue. Better late than never. Originally by: CCP Alice Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though.. Listen, you seem nice, and these forums you've been working on look good, but this is a bit much. I mean, have you even looked at the Assembly Hall? Have you spent 3 minutes thinking about what purpose it serves (measuring support), and how it might better serve that purpose? Have you looked at various ideascale and stackexchange and other forum-type methods for crowdsourcing, discussing, and prioritizing ideas? What about previous proposals that are directly on point from the Assembly Hall and perhaps even the CSM itself? This really shouldn't be a brand-new issue for you. If the truth is that you looked at and thought about those things, but nothing of the sort was in the budget and/or spec that your boss gave you, then fair enough. In that case, my only complaint would be that you're not allowed to come right out and say so. However, sunny naivite is hard to swallow when these issues have been so thoroughly discussed and there is literally years of feedback on the functionality of the forums. I'm inclined to agree that there needs to be a dislike for the F&I and Assembly Hall forums. I don't really see a pressing need for it elsewhere, although there's a lot of comic potential if you allow us to dislike dev blogs or official news posts (I'm looking at you, GM Grimmi). Also, can you sort by most liked? Originally by: Makko Gray Originally by: Hemmo Paskiainen cool, does that mean that u have more time now to fix the black op ships? Yeah, because ASP.NET web developers know all about game development in C and Python. Then if they're not too busy they could perform brain surgery on my aunt. Fixing black ops doesn't require any programming. Just up the jump range and give them a better tank, and whatever else players who have given this way more thought than I ever could have decided. You don't have to be a programmer to adjust ship stats, you just change a number in a database. The best part is if you screw it up, you can roll it back or tone it down just as easily. Originally by: Iraherag Quote:Admittedly, the old forum search function was not up to modern standards. It was up to some kind of standard?! Really, which one? Wins this thread.
trjcquee	Posted - 2011.01.12 21:30:00 - [111] I use these forums. I won't use that **. You really have to try to ** up these forums more than they already are. Congratulations, you've done it.
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.01.12 22:14:00 - [112] Will the new forum have the option to stay logged in when I close the window? And will it at least try to keep my forum settings (default character) saved? Maybe most importantly, will the time flux posting limit be finally removed? ___________
Bagehi Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.01.12 22:31:00 - [113] Edited by: Bagehi on 12/01/2011 22:31:09 Originally by: CCP Alice Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though.. Originally by: Mynxee Assembly Hall needs at minimum a Dislike or Unsupported button, with statistics for Like/Support and Dislike/Unsupported stats summarized at the top of each thread. This. This signature is useless, but it is red.
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2011.01.12 22:39:00 - [114] Originally by: Hachi Ironfist At this stage it's either you have an opinion (that you like what he posted) or you have NO opinion at all. This is not the answer! WE NEED to be able to say NO, I DON'T LIKE YOUR POST. So, please do implement a "Dislike" button , it's mandatory! (like some poster said above me , maybe even gray-out some posts that have too many dislikes! It's much better than having Like and nothing. Not only that, but "Dislike" should be ticked by default. EVE is - after all - a cruel and harsh universe. We're not here to "like" each other, we're here to kill each other, y'a know ... -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager
Sahmul	Posted - 2011.01.12 22:41:00 - [115] Originally by: Galandil Edited by: Galandil on 12/01/2011 19:17:47 There was a feature that I like from the World of Warcraft forums (Shut up, I don't play that **** any more) that I wish that all MMO forums had. It was Jump to Next dev message button. It's rare but Sometimes when some threads get really long and it's nice to just jump from dev post to next dev post and read just their replies. Yeah, the jump to next Dev button was sweet, would be nice if we had one of those on the new forums
Daan Sai Polytrope	Posted - 2011.01.12 22:58:00 - [116] Can I block posts by selected chars? --------------------------------- Internet Submarines is Serious Business ---------------------------------
Janos Saal	Posted - 2011.01.12 23:00:00 - [117] Whoop de **, you finally got forum features that everywhere else on the net got ten years ago. Praising this is like praising a **ed toddler for managing to take a ** in the potty instead of all over the floor.
Ugleb Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.01.12 23:39:00 - [118] Quote: Thread view: Once you go into a thread, it's all fairly straight forward. Each post shows the avatar picture, name, corporation and alliance information (if set to visible). Why oh why oh why is this information disabled by default? I would have thought it would be something you'd switch to always on rather than deliberately keep as it is now. It is really annoying to have to search for a character just to find out which corp/alliance they are in when the functionality is right there to tell you straight away. So why not just turn it on by default? That is something that has frustrated me since I started using these forums all those years ago, its beyond me why you would not want to change it! The Journal; Walking The Road To Liberation
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.01.12 23:46:00 - [119] I will miss the old forums. Maybe I'll retire when the new forums roll out. :) -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter - Blog got deleted when Evepress died -
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.01.12 23:47:00 - [120] Will you update the rules for forum signatures, the old 24000byte limit was good back in 2003 when some people actually used dialup. Well we are now in 2011 so making that limit 3-4x bigger so we can fit transparent PNG files would be awesome. Keep the pixel limit as it is though.
Orb Lati Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.12 23:49:00 - [121] Visually the new layout looks like its full of wasted space and oversized components. "We worship Strength because it is through strength that all other values are made possible"
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.12 23:50:00 - [122] Originally by: CCP Alice Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though.. I'd go for a separate thread about those issues as the stuff that's being discussed here (like/dislike function, identity revealing via 'share' function) are more important than this.. imho. So please give us a separate thread on the matter.. probably best placed in either F&I or AH themselves. support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
Marlona Sky Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.01.12 23:51:00 - [123] Will there be a version that is easy on smart phones like the Androids and dumb phones like the iPhone?
Shoo Dae	Posted - 2011.01.13 02:38:00 - [124] Edited by: Shoo Dae on 13/01/2011 02:38:38 I'd like to add my voice to the call for compatibility for mobile phone browsing. I do most of my forum reading on my Android phone via Eve-Search.com (yay Chribba!) It re-sizes well enough to make the experience bearable. The new forums need to do this... and degrade appropriately for similar devices such as netbooks and iPads. -------------- Indecision is a terrible thing. ...or is it?
Bhattran	Posted - 2011.01.13 03:32:00 - [125] Originally by: CCP Fallout Originally by: ArchenTheGreat Please revise your censoring code. So I can write "** Tracy sat in a cockpit of his ship and sip his niggardly cocktail" whithout any tricks. I can understand (for some extent) censoring or * or . Maybe you should make your game 18+. It would not affect your sales in any way. Parents don't control what their children play nowadays. They all expect government/corporations to do parenting. You have game with slavery, mass murders, narcotics. Is swear word really such a deal? You can always petition and ask for words to be white listed, like cockpit and niggardly :) WIN! Also, hoping new forums won't be crippled with lots of ** ass like java/flash to cripple the simple act of reading and posting text for 's sake. --WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.--**
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2011.01.13 03:35:00 - [126] Improvement is always welcome. Some questions: Will forum threads have permanent URLs? Will new forum threads have identifiable threadIDs like current forum threads? (e.g., this one being threadID=1447090). Will the new threadIDs collide with existing threadIDs? Will those people who prefer larger typefaces be able to enlarge the text on the forum pages without simply enlarging the whole page? The sample images show small text. It will still have the settings, but will the new forum actually save my choices for "view images" and "view signatures" from one session to the next? The old one certainly doesn't. á á
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2011.01.13 03:52:00 - [127] Bullet Time! hope you picked the blue pill. Format Options preserved? (ie color text)? New post formatting options? (ie more colors) New Post length? New Repost Timer? New Signature size by text? New Signature size image? Quick Linking to wikipedia option? Linking to Myeve? Sort posts by when created vs most recent reply? (useful in information portal) Setting the number of threads seen per page? Setting the number of posts seen per page? Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11JAN11
Lygos Amarr Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.01.13 03:53:00 - [128] So far, the main social feature I miss is my custom buddies list. That was useful for seeing whether pve, or blops, or enemies or commercial groups were on. I don't rank people 1-10. Corps and people with pos/hangars do that. If you could re-implement custom groups/folders in spacebook, it would be almost half as useful. --- Articio > Well, at least I don't have to grind back security status.
Caldari 5 Amarr The Element Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.13 06:37:00 - [129] If you are going to have "Like" you need "Dislike"/"Hate" Which is better a post with 100 Likes or 150 Likes, hard to tell until you find out the first one had 2 dislikes and the second 1000 dislikes.
Denny Haze Amarr Bad Wolf Project	Posted - 2011.01.13 06:58:00 - [130] Can I change my name to Mr. Regular? 60D GTC
Cyaxares II	Posted - 2011.01.13 07:21:00 - [131] can we have a "jump to next dev post in thread" button?
Tiger's Spirit Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.13 07:31:00 - [132] So, the old forum on Eve.com will end ?
Davelantor Caldari The Hunt United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.13 08:18:00 - [133] Edited by: Davelantor on 13/01/2011 08:21:39 Awesome :D would be better with For FID and As. Hall +support +Not support And maybe +Dislike +Spamm +An other cloak whiner options other than just "like" The Hunt
1Of9 Gallente Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.13 09:00:00 - [134] CCP Alice, at least you could try to hide you goonswarm affiliation in your words ... seriously..
Louis deGuerre Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder	Posted - 2011.01.13 09:22:00 - [135] Nice. But 'Like' and 'Unlike' ? Eeeeeewwwwww, is that even English ? Use 'Love' and 'Hate' please ! Or if that makes too many people cry use 'Dislike'. 'Unlike' is like something out of 1984 newspeak. It crimethink doubleplus ungood !!! Btw...the CAD Forums have a nicely working rep system...might want to 'borrow' from there nudge wink ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
PTang	Posted - 2011.01.13 09:58:00 - [136] Originally by: 1Of9 CCP Alice, at least you could try to hide you goonswarm affiliation in your words ... seriously.. hey look a tool waves -mothermoon keep in COAD

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2011.01.13 11:11:00 - [137] Originally by: dungabee Now my question is when will CCP make EveGate as secure as the main Eve website? When I login to eveonline.com, it asks me a security question such as "type in the name of one of your characters". In EveGate you can login with the same details and see the answer to that very question. This security question is completely redundant while EveGate doesn't have it. Glad you asked :) Yes, Eve Gate v1.1 does indeed do this.

Nierna	Posted - 2011.01.13 11:17:00 - [138] i sometimes type the name of my character and it says its incorrect eventho im sure its right. its kinda annoying. on topic the new forums look rather cool. i might actualy use the search function now ^^
Captain DJack	Posted - 2011.01.13 11:41:00 - [139] Looking good but please get rid of the "Like" crud. Pleasseee.
Skippermonkey Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.01.13 11:54:00 - [140] Originally by: Captain DJack Looking good but please get rid of the "Like" crud. Pleasseee. They should add a dislke buttno.. and have the system work like sec status... you can get trolled without DEV intervention if you are -10 Originally by: CCP Capslock OH GOD THE TESTING
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2011.01.13 12:28:00 - [141] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Will you update the rules for forum signatures, the old 24000byte limit was good back in 2003 when some people actually used dialup. Well we are now in 2011 so making that limit 3-4x bigger so we can fit transparent PNG files would be awesome. Keep the pixel limit as it is though. And please don't forget the option to disable this nonsense. I can't count how many hours of my life have been wasted while I was waiting for a forum's page to load, where everybody and his dog placed gigantic animated GIFs, hosted at some obscure file sharing site, in the signature. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager
Dartzap	Posted - 2011.01.13 12:45:00 - [142] Looks like it'll be grand
Echo Mande	Posted - 2011.01.13 14:20:00 - [143] Edited by: Echo Mande on 13/01/2011 14:23:16 Will it be possible to set personal defaults so that, for instance, we could see 100 posts per screen instead of 20? Or set a 'minimalist' skin? The one that's shown seems a bit 'hollywood' (big buttons and text, little information).
Rhok Relztem Caldari CGMA Synergist Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.13 14:55:00 - [144] The new forums look awesome but I do have a few suggestions (many of which have already been mentioned)... Along with the Like button there should be a Dislike button. Same in Assembly Hall & Jita - Supported/Not Supported. Colored text. Options to set number of threads/posts shown per page. In the editor - a text size option. In the user settings - a text size option. An option to set the shown date/time to your region as well as set it to military time or 12-hour time. Longer character limit for posts. An option to receive emails when a reply is posted to the thread and a time interval for those emails - i.e. immediately, once per hour, once per day, etc. More Smilies - there are thousands of them out there, some really good ones, but don't just add some for the sake of adding some. Be selective and add some of the best. That's all that I can think of atm but I would like to add... HOORAY FOR NO MORE TIMEOUTS!!!!! (This is a perfect example for the need for more Smilies - there are dozens of them out there that would illustrate that Hooray much better.)
Yolkree Kinkou. Stella Polaris.	Posted - 2011.01.13 15:36:00 - [145] Looks good! So my question is... How about subforums for other languages, such as German and Russian ? Will such subforums?
Che Biko Humanitarian Communists	Posted - 2011.01.13 16:06:00 - [146] Oh my! Favourites, CCP? Wooohooh I love you! I'm the kinda guy that frequents a lot of not so popular topics on popular sections (like recruitment). This will make it so much easier to know if there have been replies to threads buried way back on page something, that I otherwise would never see... especially if I get randomly logged out again or had forgotten about them. Thank you! You guys are really at the cutting edge of forum IT.
Skippermonkey Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.01.13 16:23:00 - [147] Edited by: Skippermonkey on 13/01/2011 16:23:44 ROFL WHAT HAPPENED TO THE STORMTROOPER EXAMPLE? You're waiting for an ibis, an ibis that will take you far away. You know where you hope this ibis will take you, but you can't be sure. But it doesn't matter - because we'll be together.
Bagehi Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.01.13 16:46:00 - [148] Originally by: Skippermonkey WHAT HAPPENED TO THE STORMTROOPER EXAMPLE? My guess? Lucas gave them a call. Amusing since we've had an Ewok system in game forever. This signature is useless, but it is red.
Cecilia McMinerton	Posted - 2011.01.13 19:15:00 - [149] I'd like to see a worm hole topic in the new setup. Disregard if done
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.01.13 19:32:00 - [150] "Lol" at changing images - guess legal didn't appreciate the workload pilfering images from outside the IP would give them So Eve Gate was an complete failure with very few actually using it after the buzz went away. Is this a way to hopefully make is useful again and thus justify the ridiculous reason for making it the default page in the in-game browser. PS: Please add ability to block/ignore individuals, too many spammers around that add little of value and moderation can't solve it as they are not technically breaking any rules.
Hiram Alexander Caldari Holdfast Industries	Posted - 2011.01.13 19:43:00 - [151] Are the new forums going to work with Android Phones...? Evegate doesn't currently, and the existing forums won't let me properly log-in to post either; so although I like the new look and functionality - I can't see me using them while working away from home (which is a lot...) --HA HD Character Creation Videos - http://www.youtube.com/user/LexHiram?feature=mhsn
Catari Taga Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere	Posted - 2011.01.13 20:21:00 - [152] New forums woohoo.... wait... I'll start caring when they will actually have all the standard features of existing forums you could/should just have used, i.e. likely never (am here too long to still believe in "laster iterations"). Until then I'm sure it's just another piece of sub-par design and programming, and according to the dev blog you'll still have to use eve-search for searching in sub forums. LMAO. --
Sir Sire Gallente First Flying Wing Inc	Posted - 2011.01.13 21:28:00 - [153] Edited by: Sir Sire on 13/01/2011 21:30:00 Will the new forums support mobile forum ware like tapatalk? Sir Sire Recruitment
Lutz Major	Posted - 2011.01.14 07:34:00 - [154] Originally by: Hiram Alexander Are the new forums going to work with Android Phones...? Evegate doesn't currently, and the existing forums won't let me properly log-in to post either; so although I like the new look and functionality - I can't see me using them while working away from home (which is a lot...) --HA I know what you mean. Writing mails in EVE-Gate on my Android is crappy as hell
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.01.15 12:23:00 - [155] Can we have a dislike button also, I'd like to attain as many as I can. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Enkill Eridos	Posted - 2011.01.17 03:34:00 - [156] A dislike button is needed in any forums..I am still excited, I would be even more excited if there was a dislike button...
Evelgrivion Ignatium.	Posted - 2011.01.17 19:10:00 - [157] What's the character limit on the new forum? Is it still 4,000 like this one?
Strot Harn	Posted - 2011.01.17 19:35:00 - [158] Originally by: Lutz Major Originally by: Hiram Alexander Are the new forums going to work with Android Phones...? Evegate doesn't currently, and the existing forums won't let me properly log-in to post either;... --HA I know what you mean. Writing mails in EVE-Gate on my Android is crappy as hell Android compatibility is definitely needed. Probably want to make sure it works with all smart phones since that's probably a primary means of accessing EveGate (CCP has the statistics, so they'd know).
I likegirls Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.18 01:42:00 - [159] I think it would be cool to have a public social website on evegate where all you do is search their name, and you can see all of their wall and whatnot. Way to Publicly come out, and criticize or publicly comment on someone in a positive manor(like thank them for hauling, building something, teaching you something or helping with a hard mission, complex or giving advice to a new player or buying them their first drake or whatever). I like getting e-mails, and the negative personal standings from people for killing them and everything. But publicly it would be a lot more fun :) Plus for corp theft, bragging about something, and all that fun stuff.
Janus Nightmare Gallente ECP Incorporated	Posted - 2011.01.18 11:41:00 - [160] Edited by: Janus Nightmare on 18/01/2011 11:42:33 I so wish I knew how to code in java. I'd make an android app based on the RSS feeds. Would be awesome if there was an Eve Gate android app though, so we could take the game mobile with us. Yes, that's a hint, CCP UPDATE: And now I see I'm not the only one that wants an android app. Should have read the entire thread first ;p
Manssell	Posted - 2011.01.18 18:51:00 - [161] Is Eve Gate currently working yet? It won't let me log on. It keeps saying my account does not exist.
Iamien Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.01.22 02:43:00 - [162] The week came and went without an appearance of the EVE-gate forums for SiSi.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.01.22 16:32:00 - [163] ETA? Come on, you broke the game. At least have the decency to give us a snazzy new forum to vent our rage in!
Iamien Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.01.29 05:04:00 - [164] Originally by: Iamien The week came and went without an appearance of the EVE-gate forums for SiSi. Now two weeks.
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2011.01.29 19:25:00 - [165] The forum is up but not excepting log ons. Forum will be trashable on monday. Originally by: CCP Explorer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: K Rho -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Explorer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The new forums are now on SiSi and are on the way to TQ soon. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does this mean there is a way for me to give these forums a look? Tried test.evegate.com but the forum link on that site links back to here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They are at http://testforums.evegate.com/ but HTTPS hasn't been activated yet and logins are disabled. The deployment to SiSi started Friday afternoon and will continue Monday.
iP0D	Posted - 2011.02.03 14:23:00 - [166] For the love of god, please do something about the font. On small screens it gets very tedious, and on large screens it gets almost unreadable. I'm not even mentioning usability. How hard is it to have a stylesheet option that lets you control font size these days.
Virtuozzo Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2011.02.03 14:27:00 - [167] Originally by: Evelgrivion What's the character limit on the new forum? Is it still 4,000 like this one? I hope not, 4K characters is really limited
Yuseff Ke'Shark	Posted - 2011.02.07 22:02:00 - [168] Here's a quick list of problems - Eve Gate displays 4 new messages, when going to the messages there are no new messages displayed. - Eve Gate lacks the ability to add mailing lists - Once you open a message there is no way to go to the next or previous message, basic functionality you would expect to find in a mail client.
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.03.05 11:33:00 - [169] There's ONE thing that EVERY other forum around has and EVE's hasn't - polls. And the search function - can we also search for just thread names? It's still not up to old - let alone modern - standards even though it looks prettier now.

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