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LinChow
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:56:00 -
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Ranting removed. Spitfire
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Selene Asteria
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Wraithbane Oh well, then I guess I'll be moving on. I've always said that as long as I could run a few missions, mine a bit and collect battleships it was worth sticking around. Given their obvious attitude expressed in that video, its time to find another game.
Forcing ones players to conform to ones Vision(tm) of how the game should be played, is more like Blizzards Ghostcrawler, than the EVE I've played for more than 5 years now. But people and companies change, and not always for the better. I wish you guys all the best.
Soo...your that whiney carebear I'm always hearing about . Good riddance to you, and all of your whining pathetic friends that made similar comments . You haven't even tried it yet ,and you want to quit. Your the guy that stays in noob corp to haul, you're the guy that jumps corps in a wardec.....your the reason I suicide gank. Booooo whoooooo
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Selene Asteria
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: LinChow Ranting removed. Spitfire
ill warm a bottle for you , ya big baby.
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Axl Borlara
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:15:00 -
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PVE or missioning is currently easy. You can look up the mission and be told exactly what you will face and need to do. You can be told what ship to use and what fit. NPCs in missions are stupid, flimsy and do exactly what you expect. You don't need to think as everything is done for you.
Maybe that's what you like.
Now things are changing.
Wormholes appeared with Sleeper NPCs which are much less predictable and much harder. Scared? Can't cope with thinking for yourself? Can't or won't adapt and learn? Stay out of the wormholes.
Sansha will now be appearing in a system near you (at some point, and only temporarily). They are not best pleased. Sansha would appear to be even nastier than Sleepers. Same ideas apply. Adapt and learn (and work with other people! ). Or hide until the nastyness goes away. Or run. Or quit.
You have a choice. You must decide for yourself. This may require thought. You might find that is a whole new experience...
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Axl Borlara
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:20:00 -
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Also, it doesn't take a lot to figure out what is likely to happen in future.
- There were stupid NPCs
- Clever NPCs came along but were kept away in their own space
- Really clever NPCs come along, right in normal space where you are, but only temporarily.
- At some point, all NPCs become clever. There are no stupid ones any more.
What then?
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Cynthissa
Worm Nation Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:08:00 -
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ok so who is quitting? I'm asking because it would ba waste if your 5 year chars and theirs assets disappear... Therefore I'm happy to announce that I will take care of them. Just send me all your isks and logins to this account.... thank you and I wish you luck in your search for new game
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Lex Avril
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Enkill Eridos ..I think most people are angry because they will not be able to solo these Incursions. ....
that is not the case for me, I (a highsec carebear) was looking forward to the Incursions, beeing encouraged to fleet up with friends. so we did.
we've tried a Vanguard on Singularity, with a cluster of 3 domis and couldn't stand 60 seconds that one cruiser and a couple of frigs.
to me it also seems like another bone for 0.0 only
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El Geo
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:45:00 -
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confirming that scout are soloable, vanguard clearly are not - damn those things killed us off quicker than a class 5 wormhole lol better ai = better game i really cant see why people would quit becuase of incursion tbh, eves a great game BECUASE you can choose to stay in high sec and stay in an npc corp avoiding player based problems (your still never entirely safe) but my personal view is if they updated all of the npc AI and made missions more random i for one would actually be inclind to run them
Ps. i dont like carebear tears, theyre too easy to earn
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Pugzilla Black
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Because''of''Falcon ATTACK JITA!!
I'll bring the popcorn and watch whilst cloaked.
Pugz
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Debrie
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Posted - 2011.01.19 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Debrie on 19/01/2011 23:43:27 to everyone saying take your cash and go somewhere else if u dont wanna be forced into playing the way you never intended to play , you will end up playing with yourself in a very empty universe
thats been the draw of this game to date , that it fits everyones playstyles solo , safe , low sec pirate and null corp alike , remove that option you remove part of the appeal that keeps players playing = loss of cash for CCP and less player interaction (market and otherwise , because of less players playing) for everyone else
keep the crap outa .6 and above and it wont really impact even the care bears that we are (most of Eve players) while allowing those in high sec that wanna take part to take part , although only in .5's and lower :p
remember the majority that play this game are carebears , drive them out , you wont have a game to play ....
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Reasoned1
Gallente The Rising Stars Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.20 04:00:00 -
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Im looking forward to some incursions. Options are still available, stay docked, fly to another system, or join a large fleet and kick ass. Im inclined to try out the latter just for the fun of it.
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WoAz
Gallente Lubricous
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Posted - 2011.01.20 05:27:00 -
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Speaking for 90% of the EVE Population, please bring the Sanshas to Jita 4-4.
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Malakari
Amarr Defenders of Sovereignty Sovereign Navy
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Posted - 2011.01.20 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: WoAz Speaking for 90% of the EVE Population, please bring the Sanshas to Jita 4-4.
I agree lol
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Bill Pitt
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Posted - 2011.01.20 11:30:00 -
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Now I am a noob, and a bit of a high sec carebear and I have no problems with this. To create an artificial safe zone for mining to an empire wide attack makes no sense.
RL brings up problems I don't like and deal with, I expect EVE to be the same.I may get blown to hell in this, but that has happened anyway with high sec law enforcement in place, so I'll just enjoy the ride and play the plot.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.01.20 11:35:00 -
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Besides my disgust over gimping our ships - this whole influence thing is 180 degrees out from what EVE claims to be.
CCP claims that EVE is a sand box - where you can do what ever you want.
Then along comes Incursions - with the Influence Mechanic - that trys to force players to respond.
So - in other words - you can play in your sand box - but if you don't come play in our little event when we hold one - we're going to make it difficult for you until you do.
That is hypocrisy. That is exactly what EVE is NOT supposed to be.
Oh ... and ... I'm waiting for the back story on this one ... lets see ... what is it that the Sanshas are doing that creates all this "Influence" - could it be ... Magic? It sure sounds like - Magic.
"The Evil Sansha's showed up and the Constellation was crippled by the evil power emanating from them - until a noble band of capsuleers banded together and with the combined strength of their midiclorians ... I mean ... mana ... I mean ..."
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Can anyone say ... WoW ...
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Fulmar Muse
Fulmar's Anti-Caldari Club
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Fulmar Muse on 20/01/2011 12:34:52 I don't really get any of this "oh, look at you, you're a whinner, blah blah"
Im playing internet spaceships, not friggin anti-customer develepors griefing game, (am I??) if i wanted some1 to tell me what to do, I go and tell a cop he was a big ****ing ****head and flash my arse at his mother...
Now, do something useful and bring the server out of downtime.. *******s to incursions!!
(Edit) the only people who will like this are as follows - anti-carebears lol :-) - nullsec folk - power hungry devs - People who like to bend over Drinking your reading, yum :) |
Capt Zulu
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:34:00 -
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come on ccp i took the day off to play eve and its down i havent yet played and tested my new pics out yet step on it your alomost as bad as the council u pay them tax and they dont fix any pot holes!!!!!!
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Xe'Cara'eos
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:56:00 -
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OK - first off, YES, I am a bit of a carebear, but also a noob, and my system's so laggy, that PVP for me does not end well, unless my opponent's jammed, and has no drones. In short - for PVP - I need to be part of a blob. So - I made the best of this situation, I run lvl 1 missions (the only missions I can) in a dsetroyer, rather than a frig... I mine in WH's when other members of alliance are around, to keep me safe, I mine in High-sec, and manufacture stuff from the minerals that I get... This will hopefully allow me to throw more ships into PVP, which is fun, but not if you're always the first to die. Also - I can't fly anything better than frigate, or a Cov - I take either of these into a lvl 4 or a sleeper site... I'm f____d, so I don't do it - now tell me why I should try taking a ship into a sansha site for instant death? Now tell me what the incursions offer me? Nothing. I joined this game for the free-form style of play, and I see it being removed... If this doesn't become a little easier for the noob to take part in - I want out. Xe
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari Blue Republic
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Posted - 2011.01.20 18:13:00 -
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So when do the actual Incursions start?
And I dont mean the stuff like Ashab overnight with "actors" and what not, I mean the various complexs and so on (scout etc)?
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Collimator
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Posted - 2011.01.21 10:15:00 -
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I would be interested in an update on the start of incursions as well... When I open the journal I dont see anything in there... They are currently going on... or after Incursion 1.1.1 or after the 25th??? When does this effectively start ? thx
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Mysterious Soldier
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Posted - 2011.01.21 11:37:00 -
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I'm looking forward to all this. I don't expect it to be easy or to even survive a incursion intact but my alliance is based in high sec and I'm sure we'll all be treating the incursions like a war. Organised fleet battles here we come! I think if you want to join an incursion go into the area and join a player made fleet. No point going it alone as you'll just die a horrible death and end up winging about it in Local.
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Mysterious Soldier
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Posted - 2011.01.21 12:04:00 -
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Also, instead of treating the sansha as ncps; how about you treat them like real players and get some training on pvp. I'm new to the game and don't intend to live in high sec all my life. It's a safe place to grow up in but when i'm too big for my shoes i'll move on up to a bigger place. When dust comes out i'll be playing that too. I understand those veterans that find CCP changing for the worst but let us all see what happens first. You can still avoid the incursions from what I hear. Anyway, joining at least one could be helpful for you in terms of rewards. It' just a new storyline!
Also, games will change with time, it's why they stay successful. EVE can't always be the same game forever. They need to keep up with the competition and everyone loyal needs to just accept that and make their own world out of it. Join the incursions or not, choice is yours and the sandbox exists; just has a few more fire ants crawling in the sand this time around. Burn the ants and you get your sandbox back. I hope the wingers take heed of this advice if they like their little world of harvesting ncps all day long. Help destroy the incursion and we get the game back to normal. Choice is yours people. Make it!
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Cresalle
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Posted - 2011.01.22 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Cresalle on 22/01/2011 22:32:23
Originally by: Debrie Edited by: Debrie on 19/01/2011 23:43:27 playing with yourself in a very empty universe
Every day of my life, friend...
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Wraithbane
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Posted - 2011.01.23 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Selene Asteria
Originally by: Wraithbane Oh well, then I guess I'll be moving on. I've always said that as long as I could run a few missions, mine a bit and collect battleships it was worth sticking around. Given their obvious attitude expressed in that video, its time to find another game.
Forcing ones players to conform to ones Vision(tm) of how the game should be played, is more like Blizzards Ghostcrawler, than the EVE I've played for more than 5 years now. But people and companies change, and not always for the better. I wish you guys all the best.
Soo...your that whiney carebear I'm always hearing about . Good riddance to you, and all of your whining pathetic friends that made similar comments . You haven't even tried it yet ,and you want to quit. Your the guy that stays in noob corp to haul, you're the guy that jumps corps in a wardec.....your the reason I suicide gank. Booooo whoooooo
Chuckle... Calling me a CareBear shows just how far out of touch you are.^^ Reading comprehension doesn't appear to be your strong suit either. I clearly stated why I stayed in SWA. I don't like corp drama, and NPC corps can't be wardec'ed. I've never been in a player corp(check my stats), so your comment is nonsense.
As for the rest, I see you have nothing constructive to bring to the conversation. Just more of the usual grade school mentality that we've come to expect from those who suicide gank. Its you and yours who are responsible for the evolution of Concord to what it is today. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot.
Finally, I do not play games that dictate how I'm to play the game in this fashion. Over the last five plus years, CCP has been pretty good about letting people play in their own fashion. But with Incursions thats obviously changing. Oh well, there are many other games I can spend my time and money on. |
Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.23 09:56:00 -
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I too have some misgivings about CCP's latest ploy to force people to play the game one way. Though I look forward to the Sansha incursions with some excitement, it's a well-known public secret CCP prefers to see everyone PvP, and that they've long since given up on staying true to their sandbox model. Is that a good thing? It's obviously being cheered on by some folks. Turning all of EVE into a huge PvP zone may lose them customers, though (insert your gratuitous 'Good riddance!' comments here). Likely haulers/miners will stay docked up a for a while during incursions... only to quit the game soon thereafter (spinning in station is only fun for so long).
Incursions may present some unforeseen problems (or forseseen, but ignored). Like what do high-sec haulers/miners/missioners do who don't have their corp based in high-sec? Or even near the system they're hauling? What, you think sending an email like this will work? "In system X. Please send 20 heavily armed ships to fight off incursions with me. Stop." Ain't gonna work. Corps will only get involved when a good portion of their members is affected; and if you don't happen to be in that particular system, you can kiss their help goodbye.
Also a bit peeved about not getting individual rewards for fighting Sanshas solo. Way to motivate people to participate, CCP! Fleeting up with other players in system? Get real! You can't trust those people; and CCP provided nothing in the way of ensuring that you can. Working as intended, you say? Fine; but then don't expect people to fleet up with random players. Ain't gonna happpen.
Now, if CCP changed things in such a way that fleet members can't target each other, then we might perhaps see some epic collaborative battles! Otherwise don't expect people to fleet up with random players. Ain't gonna happpen. |
Starnap
Concentrated Evil
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Posted - 2011.01.23 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ranka Mei
Now, if CCP changed things in such a way that fleet members can't target each other, then we might perhaps see some epic collaborative battles! Otherwise don't expect people to fleet up with random players. Ain't gonna happpen.
They already did. What game have you been playing these last couple years? |
Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.23 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Starnap
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Now, if CCP changed things in such a way that fleet members can't target each other, then we might perhaps see some epic collaborative battles! Otherwise don't expect people to fleet up with random players. Ain't gonna happpen.
They already did. What game have you been playing these last couple years?
What are you talking about, you silly man!? Of course fleet members can target and shoot each other! Good luck repping each other otherwise. They may get concorded when shooting you, but that never stopped a suicide ganker before. |
shar Depran
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Posted - 2011.03.07 16:24:00 -
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Just finished an anal'isis of the recent incursion in Tenal and it revealed a few interesting facts if you exclude the almost universal reply of æAndÆ.
1, ratting/industry and mining was unaffected by the incursion in the area, members simply said sod it and moved outside the infected region. PI was unaffected.
2, for a number of days no attempt was made except by a few fools to tackle the problem, all but a few lost there shiny ships, shock/horror factor there I guess.
3, resolution was accomplished by outside parties invited in to clean house for free. I bet that you did not expect that slant on it did you.
After this toons simply moved back into there preferred systems and continued as if nothing had happen.
So CCP I would say based on this and conversations with the affected pilots, epic failure on your part yet again, suggest if your true aim was to make people leave the game a better idea would be to contract PL to infect the place, provide them with unlimited free ships set a time limit for occupation of three months and leave em to it.
In reality the whole idea is half baked poorly thought out and has limited affect in infected systems as the psychology of the pilot cadre engaged in isk making in those systems causes them simply to move to a place they can continue to make isk, They need make no preparation for this nor is it hard for them to accomplish.
They fully understand that in single ships they stand no chance of taking down a systems infection, CCP seeded ships are almost incapable of doing so, not enough resists, not enough DPS, in short not enough of anything useful unless you count numbers. If you put enough numbers into a system they become paralysed by lagg, loose there ships and all for nothing gained isk wise, most attempts are aborted quickly and the system is left unusable until an attempt is successful but pilots simply continue to play the game in other quarters.
As for the incursions themselves again epic in failure, Ratting on a grand scale I heard one pilot put it, no isk to be made, silly points which few will ever realise into usable items and simple to accomplish for any organised Corp or Alliance, oh and the possibility of a single BP for the so called flying 'turd' is little incentive to even consider wasting time on the problem, pick up the phone and call the boys who can.
So I would ask you yet again, what were you actually trying to achieve with this silly idea, seems you are hell bent on ignoring the problems already existent in the game electing instead to bloat it to unplayable proportions with ill thought out ideas devised by a bunch of immature script kiddies with to much time and money on there hands and zero comprehension of what makes eve pilots tick, suggest you rein them in for a month or two and divert there attention to solving the current rash of problems, then have them release a new game called maybe æI smoked hash today and thought of thisÆ.
Best regards, disappointed.
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SimoneIsGod
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:23:00 -
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i love the incursions just wish there were move of them right now there is only 1 live incursion its in 0.0 and right now im looking at a 30 ship gate camp to get to it!
for me the incursions are all about fleeting up with a bunch for friends going out and blowing stuff up normaly all on teamspeak and having a good time. Yes we could go roaming in lowsec looking for fights but the incursions make a nice change from this and involove the guys that arnt to keep on pvp
So from me + 1 incursions just with there were more of them come on some hit the button!
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