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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.08.16 18:43:00 -
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I seem to recall in a thread Chibba mentioning the potential of putting Macinaws stuffed with ore into Oracas yesterday & now this:
CCP sayz wrote:
Patch notes for EVE Online: Inferno 1.2.5
Released on Thursday, August 16, 2012.
Fixes
Ships
GÇóThe ship maintenance bay will not longer accept ships with cargo loaded except for charges and/or ammunition, fuel in a fuel bay or drones in a drone bay.
Exploit fixes
GÇóAn exploit has been fixed making the world a better place for all.
I wonder what the exploit mentioned afterwards wuz?
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Lilianna Star
State War Academy
Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2012.08.16 18:51:00 -
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Lmao, that was quick. |
Whadafool
Universal Might
30
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Posted - 2012.08.16 18:52:00 -
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-10 accessing ships in high sec?
stuff |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
211
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:09:00 -
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The fine line between "feature" and "exploit" is very difficult to define sometimes... |
Anslo
Black Horse Enterprises-International
135
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:16:00 -
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Good job Chribba... |
baltec1
Bat Country
1906
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:18:00 -
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Nice to know CCP are listening |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
516
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:18:00 -
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So, they fixed the 'Orca corp hangar' doesn't drop loot bug yet?
Do those Mackinaws drop 35 units of ice yet from their 'speshul' cargo bays? |
Ensign X
84
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:34:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:So, they fixed the 'Orca corp hangar' doesn't drop loot bug yet?
Confirmed, not a bug.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
516
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:15:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:So, they fixed the 'Orca corp hangar' doesn't drop loot bug yet? Confirmed, not a bug.
Dev quote plox?
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4372
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:19:00 -
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fyi this was pretty necessary considering that a Rorqual (and an Orca, to a lesser extent) was capable of moving amounts of ore that would otherwise require a freighter
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Ensign X
84
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:29:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Ensign X wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:So, they fixed the 'Orca corp hangar' doesn't drop loot bug yet? Confirmed, not a bug. Dev quote plox?
It's in the same Dev post where you got your info that it is a bug.
edit: Which is the same post that confirmed that it's an exploit to park aggressed ships in an Orca to break tackle and save your pod without transferring aggression to the Orca.  |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9138
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:35:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Ensign X wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:So, they fixed the 'Orca corp hangar' doesn't drop loot bug yet? Confirmed, not a bug. Dev quote plox? You'd think they would have fixed it in the 7 years since the GǣbugGǥ first appeared if they considered it oneGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
516
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Posted - 2012.08.16 22:05:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Ensign X wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:So, they fixed the 'Orca corp hangar' doesn't drop loot bug yet? Confirmed, not a bug. Dev quote plox? It's in the same Dev post where you got your info that it is a bug. edit: Which is the same post that confirmed that it's an exploit to park aggressed ships in an Orca to break tackle and save your pod without transferring aggression to the Orca.
oh, no they managed to 'fix' that bug about a year and a half ago, at least in high sec.
It benefitted people who bait mission runners, so OFC it had to be patched (in true CCP fashion - half-assed; multiple times).
I'm just wondering how long its going to take for them get off their asses and finally synch up their code for all these 'new'' cargo holds that seem to be popping up.....
New Mackinaws can hold 35 blocks of ice, why shouldn't they show up on scans or drop on destruction?
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Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.08.16 22:09:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:I seem to recall in a thread Chribba mentioning the potential of putting Macinaws stuffed with ore into Orcas yesterday & now this:
[quote=CCP sayz]
Patch notes for EVE Online: Inferno 1.2.5
Released on Thursday, August 16, 2012.
Fixes
Ships
GÇóThe ship maintenance bay will not longer accept ships with cargo loaded except for charges and/or ammunition, fuel in a fuel bay or drones in a drone bay.
Yeah, Chribba, what possessed you to post actual facts in the forums? |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
516
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Posted - 2012.08.16 22:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Ensign X wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:So, they fixed the 'Orca corp hangar' doesn't drop loot bug yet? Confirmed, not a bug. Dev quote plox? You'd think they would have fixed it in the 7 years since the GǣbugGǥ first appeared if they considered it oneGǪ
Are you arguing that just because CCP neglected to fix a bug for 7 years, its not 'actually' a bug
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
526
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Posted - 2012.08.16 22:41:00 -
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No if they would just change the Orca and rorqual after the size changes to the Mackinaw.
Bigger Ore holds with smaller cargo bays would be nice.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
211
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Posted - 2012.08.16 22:47:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:New Mackinaws can hold 35 blocks of ice, why shouldn't they show up on scans or drop on destruction
Scans? The Ore Bay blocks the scans, sort of like the Superman versus lead thing.
No drops? Because the Ore Bay implodes upon destruction of the ship. Then the ice melts and scatters out into space.
You could harvest it, but you'd need the Giant Space Sponge mod and the accompanying Sponging Up Space Water skill.
You see? There is always a plausible explanation for everything. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9140
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Posted - 2012.08.16 23:00:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Are you arguing that just because CCP neglected to fix a bug for 7 years, its not 'actually' a bug No, I'm arguing that it's not a bug because it has never been mentioned or seen as one GÇö in fact, there is nothing to even suggest that it is a bug.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
211
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Posted - 2012.08.16 23:00:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:No if they would just change the Orca and rorqual after the size changes to the Mackinaw.
Bigger Ore holds with smaller cargo bays would be nice.
Don't forget that a lot of players, me included, use the Orca as a moving van. I like the Orca the way it is just for that reason.
The Orca is very versatile. Making large ore bays and small cargo holds would not make it any better for ore because total bay size would most likely be the same or close. That kind of change would be at the expense of it's versatility in terms of hauling generic cargo. |
Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.08.16 23:14:00 -
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Yeah I like my 200K + ehp (with an x large asb for giggles) non scannable Corp hanger Orca hauler just the way it is.
Hauled 10B in goodies out of Jita with it today while posting on another forum. Really should have split the haul up with my Viator though, gettin sloppy.
In fact I like it so much I bought a BPO and all the Cap components BPO's, that was about 6B of the cargo.
Hmmm, I wonder if I could fit a target breaker on it.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
516
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Posted - 2012.08.16 23:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Are you arguing that just because CCP neglected to fix a bug for 7 years, its not 'actually' a bug No, I'm arguing that it's not a bug because it has never been mentioned or seen as one GÇö in fact, there is nothing to even suggest that it is a bug.
Oh, plenty of people have been 'mentioning it' and 'seeing it' this obvious inconsistency as a bug for quite awhile. But I guess suicide gankers don't count.
Ninja ship-swapping in an Orca was around for 3+ years. But mission runners hated it. Eventually CCP retroactively declared it a bug and patched it. Likewise with highsec GCC'd pilots bailing out of doomed ships.
A 'hauler' that can move ultra high-value goods without anyone else being able to scan it, recover it - or even know it was destroyed in the explosion via KM - while every other hauler in the game has those significant disadvantages. No, thats not unbalancing. 
Especially in the case of the new Mackinaw. With the added EHP, loot drops are more important to the budget minded ganker.
Yet....Old Mackinaw, 10K+ Cargo bay, drops loot.
New Mackinaw 35K 'Ore' bay, nothing drops.
Why? Its certainly not logical or consistent - especially when ship destruction is 'supposedly' the core of the game.
Fuel bays should drop fuel, ore bays should drop Ore, Corp hangars/Maintenence Bays should drop 50% of whatever is stored in them.
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Dystopia Arkaral
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:23:00 -
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Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
Yeah, Chribba, what possessed you to post actual facts in the forums?
I posted it as a bug back when it was on sisi and the bug hunter told me it was intentional. Guess the realised it was a bit of an oops
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Jimmy Gunsmythe
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
134
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:25:00 -
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I saw:
CCP plugged the Orca
and laughed heartily.
A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
Ron Swanson III
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:32:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Oh, plenty of people have been 'mentioning it' and 'seeing it' this obvious inconsistency as a bug for quite awhile. But I guess suicide gankers don't count.
Until suicide gankers change their title to CCP Developer, their opinion on what constitutes a bug most certainly does not count. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
278
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:45:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:I saw:
CCP plugged the Orca
and laughed heartily.
And not one stuff it up your blowhole joke yet 
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