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Jeet Kaya
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Posted - 2011.01.14 21:08:00 -
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Can someone please explain to me in simple plain terms what hulkageddon is?
What happens?
Do i need to worried if im a miner ?
Whats it all about?
And i followed a link to evelopedia but it doesn't explain what exactly its all about....
Confused...
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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2011.01.14 21:18:00 -
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It's about people flying around and suicide-ganking every Hulk/other mining ship they can find.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.01.14 21:21:00 -
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Hulkageddon is a player made, player sponsored event.
The gist of it is;
- Players are encouraged to go out and kill as many mining barges/exhumers/industrial ships as possible in whatever way they deem fit (usually by suicide ganking).
- Prizes are given out to those that kill the most of a certain type of ship and/or do the deed in a certain way (ex. killing a Retriever in smartbomb-fitted battleship).
If you are a miner/industrialist then yes, you should be a bit vigilant.
Pro-tips for Hulkageddon:
- don't mine in a ship that you cannot easily replace (i.e. put away that Mackinaw and use a Retriever instead).
- don't mine in a ship that isn't "buffer tanked" (you want to have enough EHP (effective hit points) to survive a sudden barrage of damage before CONCORD arrives).
- don't transport large amounts of materials without a scout and/or escort.
- use the event to your advantage. Stockpile materials and build stuff for gankers so they can take out the "competition" for you.
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Culmen
Caldari
Blood Phage Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.14 21:26:00 -
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Hulkageddon is a contest a bunch of players cooked up.
The objective is to try and destroy as many Exhumers/Mining Barges as possible.
Whoever kills the most wins the grand prize.
There are other smaller prizes that could be won.
The contest is open to everyone.
Once the contest starts, over the course of a few weeks a bunch of guys run around eve and try suicide ganking as many Barges as possible.
This is in addition to the people who suicide gank barges as a life style choice,
So you can expect a noticeable increase in your odds of getting suicide ganked.
I'd be careful, but don't be afraid to undock.
Here's a link to the previous Hulkageddon.
What's it all about?
Same thing as everything else in eve.
Getting your jollies even if you have to repeatedly kill someone to get them.
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Jeet Kaya
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Posted - 2011.01.14 22:11:00 -
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ok so even in 1.0 space im not safe?
But concorde will still come to my rescue yes? if i can survive long enough 
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Otto Toten
Minmatar
The Real OC
Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.01.14 22:23:00 -
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Just plain fun.
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Jeet Kaya
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Posted - 2011.01.14 22:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Otto Toten
Just plain fun.
lol Im sure it is fun...
I just wanted to know what it was ...thats all
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.01.14 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jeet Kaya
ok so even in 1.0 space im not safe?
You are safer... never safe. Not even in 1.0 space.
Originally by: Jeet Kaya
But concorde will still come to my rescue yes? if i can survive long enough
Well, the idea is to make yourself as "unattractive" as possible to discourage a gank in the first place (by putting your EHP as high as possible). But yes, provided you can survive 5 to 10 seconds of high DPS, CONCORD will come to save the day.
Originally by: Jeet Kaya
oh and its just mining ships and industrial? what about a mining cruiser? can it be any ship with mining lasers?
Dunno... but I assume that any ship that mines is fair game.
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Jeet Kaya
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Posted - 2011.01.14 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: ShahFluffers
Originally by: Jeet Kaya
ok so even in 1.0 space im not safe?
You are safer... never safe. Not even in 1.0 space.
Originally by: Jeet Kaya
But concorde will still come to my rescue yes? if i can survive long enough
Well, the idea is to make yourself as "unattractive" as possible to discourage a gank in the first place (by putting your EHP as high as possible). But yes, provided you can survive 5 to 10 seconds of high DPS, CONCORD will come to save the day.
Originally by: Jeet Kaya
oh and its just mining ships and industrial? what about a mining cruiser? can it be any ship with mining lasers?
Dunno... but I assume that any ship that mines is fair game.
Lol well im gonna stay well clear of mining while this is going on....
Or maybe Tank up my Miner and bait some gankers teehee....5-10 seconds you say ?
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.01.14 23:14:00 -
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Hulkageddon Thread
Helicity Boson is the sponsor of the event.
Note that it is in the Crime & Punishment Forum (which is largely the Crime Forum ...).
This is a good forum to periodically monitor for such things.
One thing they did last time - was to create a channel used by their scouts to post targets they'd found. Monitoring that channel is also a good idea - though no guarantee that just because you don't see your system mentioned that you aren't about to be attacked.
And ... for you miners ... think of it this way ... the more ships that get blown up - the more demand there will be for your ore.
It's not a disaster - it's an opportunity!
Orbiting vs. Kiting
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Jeet Kaya
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Posted - 2011.01.14 23:46:00 -
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um i forgot to ask, how long is the event going on for ?
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.01.14 23:50:00 -
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That question is answered in the Hulkageddon thread!
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Jeet Kaya
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Posted - 2011.01.14 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jeet Kaya on 14/01/2011 23:55:10
Originally by: Mara Rinn
That question is answered in the Hulkageddon thread!
It is ? oh well theres a lot to look through to find it...and since you clearly know when couldnt you tell me? 
where exactly? i couldn't find it in the opening post....
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente
The Executives
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.15 00:51:00 -
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It is in the Crime and Punishment forum
Linky
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.01.15 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jeet Kaya
Unless im looking in the wrong thread ?
Right thread, but the answer to your question about "when exactly" is that noone knows.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.01.15 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jeet Kaya
Or maybe Tank up my Miner and bait some gankers teehee....5-10 seconds you say ?
Well... 5 to 10 seconds before CONCORD shows up... the incoming DPS depends entirely on what is shooting you and how many.
The really get a "feel" for how much it takes to gank a barge I recommend that you go and do it yourself (get a Thrasher and fit it with 280mm artillery guns, gyrostabilizers and tracking enhancers in the lows, and sensor boosters in the mids). See how far you get the ship into structure. 
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Sassums
Gallente
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.01.15 08:54:00 -
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It's funny that the ships all these players are flying, are constructed from the materials the miners are mining.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:52:00 -
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FYI
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: xmayzex
when does Hulkageddon 4 start? i know in feb, but is there a specific set date yet? Also, looking around google i saw old killboards and i think a wordpress site .. will any of these be active again .. or is this thread the only official source of information?
19th to 28th of feb, there will be a new site and new killboard. I'm working on the site right now, should be up sometime this weekend, I will update the OP post at that time :)
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.01.22 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sassums
It's funny that the ships all these players are flying, are constructed from the materials the miners are mining.
And they're all fueled by tears.
Remember this people, if you really want to grief hulkageddon participants, don't make a fuss, don't respond, just move on.
Gullible
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Manufactorum
Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.01.22 09:46:00 -
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This Hulkageddon I hear pretty much anything that even looks industrial is fair game 
Originally by: Magnus Andronicus
ur character looks like a f***ing clown dude.
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Alexander Third
Gallente
STARMINE inc
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Posted - 2011.01.23 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jeet Kaya
Edited by: Jeet Kaya on 14/01/2011 22:22:00
ok so even in 1.0 space im not safe?
But concorde will still come to my rescue yes? if i can survive long enough
oh and its just mining ships and industrial? what about a mining cruiser? can it be any ship with mining lasers?
A list of the ships at risk would be nice ^^
If someone suicide ganks you in 1.0 system I believe they can be banned, especially for can flipping new players and stuff like that.
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Manufactorum
Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.01.23 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Alexander Third
Originally by: Jeet Kaya
Edited by: Jeet Kaya on 14/01/2011 22:22:00
ok so even in 1.0 space im not safe?
But concorde will still come to my rescue yes? if i can survive long enough
oh and its just mining ships and industrial? what about a mining cruiser? can it be any ship with mining lasers?
A list of the ships at risk would be nice ^^
If someone suicide ganks you in 1.0 system I believe they can be banned, especially for can flipping new players and stuff like that.
Starter systems, not 1.0. (All the starter systems are 1.0)
And I don't believe suicide ganking is covered, can baiting is. Not sure if can flipping is, but with the recent changes in Eve there seems to be more hand holding so I wouldn't be surprised
Originally by: Magnus Andronicus
ur character looks like a f***ing clown dude.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.01.23 04:22:00 -
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OK ...
To address a couple of things.
1) Starter Systems are those systems in which characters are first created. Duripant is an example. There are 3 for each faction. This does NOT include the school system - such as Couster. If you go picking on the nubs in a starter system ... and someone reports you - you might have something done to you. Can Flipping or Baiting ... or both ... is one such thing. Can Flipping being where they take your ore and move it to one of their cans - giving you the chance to shoot at them - which gives them the chance to shoot back. Can Baiting, iirc, is labeling a can "Free Stuff for Noobs" then blowing up the Noob that takes from it. CCP quite understandably doesn't want their new customers driven from the game by constantly getting blown up their first few days - so pick on nubs in starter systems at your own risk. Of course ... they've got nubs in those systems getting themselves introduced to Concord - all on their own but I doubt anythings going to be done to them. "Don't do it ..." I said to the nub targeting me with his rookie ship ... but he did ... and WHOOSH-BLAM!! this giant blue flash roars over my head and insta-pops said rookie ... in half a second.
2) Now - that brings us to Suicide Ganking in 1.0. How do they do that when Concord responds so fast? It's called an Alpha. Now - this term is badly misused - what an Alpha actually is - is your first volley of fire for all your weapons. That's what the word Alpha means is - first, from Alpha being the first letter of the Greek Alphabet. The way Concord works is - it won't show up until they do something. Thus - targeting you - won't bring a response. They have to actually shoot at you. Here - what the suicide gankers do - is to try and come up with an Alpha Strike - that is powerful enough to blow you up by itself - since Concord isn't going to let them get off a Beta Strike in 1.0. Now ... if you can survive one ship, even a battleships Alpha - they bring more than one. Each ship they attack you with - gets it's Alpha in - and then blows up at the hands of Concord. In organizing their strike - they have scouts evaluate the target and try to figure out - how many ships they are going to need to blow it up with Alphas.
Now ... there seem to be two types of ganks. For fun and for profit. A fun gank - can be anything, any time, anywhere. They're attacking you just for the fun of blowing you up - and - for managing to blow you up despite Concord. Hulkaggedon is one big Fun Gank. There are prizes - and they are competing for those prizes but the fun of the whole thing is what it's all about. A Profit Gank - consists of them evaluating your modules and/or cargo and determining that whatever they lose in the deal it will be more than made up for by what they can loot from your wreck. Here - they have to take into consideration the randomness of what drops. There is no guarantee that any one particular thing you have is going to be part of the loot. So - if they're going to lose a lot of ships to pop you ... they want to be pretty sure enough will drop to make it worth while.
Now one more factor in all this - is that their ships are insured. At one point in time - because the insurance payments weren't in tune with the market value of the ships - they were actually making money off of the insurance. Some people were manufacturing ships specifically to blow them up themselves as part of an insurance fraud scheme. That has been fixed ... so ships now pay back something more in line with their market cost. Insurance or no - they still lose all their modules as insurance never covers that.
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Alexander Third
Gallente
STARMINE inc
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Posted - 2011.01.23 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Alotta Baggage
Originally by: Alexander Third
Originally by: Jeet Kaya
Edited by: Jeet Kaya on 14/01/2011 22:22:00
ok so even in 1.0 space im not safe?
But concorde will still come to my rescue yes? if i can survive long enough
oh and its just mining ships and industrial? what about a mining cruiser? can it be any ship with mining lasers?
A list of the ships at risk would be nice ^^
Yes I meant starter space, and you are right it isn't covered but it should be.
If someone suicide ganks you in 1.0 system I believe they can be banned, especially for can flipping new players and stuff like that.
Starter systems, not 1.0. (All the starter systems are 1.0)
And I don't believe suicide ganking is covered, can baiting is. Not sure if can flipping is, but with the recent changes in Eve there seems to be more hand holding so I wouldn't be surprised
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Speaker of Truths
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Posted - 2011.01.23 21:28:00 -
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It's when the wicked destroy the property of others and even sometimes go as far as to commit murder.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2011.01.24 12:07:00 -
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If my mind serves me well, these ships are valid targets:
Mining Barges
Exhumers
Orca
Rorqual
Noctis (as it¦s an ORE ship, not 100% sure)
Even Idustrials might be affected
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KaarBaak
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.24 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
One thing they did last time - was to create a channel used by their scouts to post targets they'd found. Monitoring that channel is also a good idea - though no guarantee that just because you don't see your system mentioned that you aren't about to be attacked.
This is an opportunity to "Whitey Bulger" some of your competition. WB is/was a gangster who turned informant for the FBI. He informed on his competition in order to make his business run a bit more smoothly and profitably.
But I'm sure most miners are nice folks who wouldn't do that to a peer.
KB
Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
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