Tamyris
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Posted - 2011.01.16 20:36:00 -
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This topic makes it painfully obvious that both CCP and the CSM are playing a different game and/or think they're experts in areas that they're not involved in. All this talk about removing JBs, forcing convoys, and trying to break up giant alliances into smaller ones to promote regional warfare is misguided at best, delusional at worst.
Just as an example, this statement:
Quote: "Greyscale feels that reduction in mobility will decrease need for big coalitions, because huge coalition blobs won't be able to move as fast; result should be smaller local wars."
reeks of ignorance. Reduction in mobility decreasing the need for big coalitions? The only thing the removal of Jump Bridges will accomplish a shift from JBs to Titans w/ JPGs and/or multiple JCs + caches of ships in target areas.
Quote: From that R&K CSM person: The needs of smaller alliances are also lesser than that of bigger alliances. But either way, I didn't suggest "get rid of the jump bridges and do nothing else". The point of the discussion about force projection and mobility was to say I felt it is too easy to move stuff around, it is too easy to move far to pwn someone else. People are less willing to engage roaming groups now than they were 2-3 years ago.
Also, smaller alliances don't have an extensive jump bridge network. When I said "get rid of them", I also said "but it has to be accompanied by other changes so that it doesn't become artificially cumbersome to move stuff about", we reiterated the need for POS fuel compression, for instance, and improved industrial facilities in 0.0, maybe even overhaul POS industry capabilities. It's not just a matter of "make everything more difficult", it's finding alternatives to the current situation to accomplish the goals.
You don't seem to understand how CCP works. The "do nothing else" part doesn't matter to them, they'll just remove JBs and that's that. I think that none of your suggestions would help alleviate the problems created by removing JBs, as they all depend on having the resources to start production on hand.
Quote: The R&K CSM person again CCP is perfectly aware that the minerals are ferried from highsec to 0.0 instead of being mined in 0.0 (except drone regions). You say the 0.0 miner profession "can't exist", I don't see why not
When is the last time you mined in 0.0? When is the last time you did it for profit, vs ratting, running missions, etc?
Quote: R&K person again God no, I don't mine... I used to when I started playing but haven't done that in a long while. I produce stuff and PvP mostly these days if you want to know.
Ahhh, that makes sense. How do you get the materials for what you produce?
Quote: R&K person *again* And, once more, I never claimed anything about "removing transportation", neither did I says "instantly", neither did I say it was the thing that, on its own, solved everything.
erm, what? See your post here, third paragraph, second sentence: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1448834&page=4#97
Or even better, look a few quotes up in this post, it's bolded for you.
Sorry dude, but this shows a distressing lack of knowledge in an area you're trying to change for the worse. Step down before you f*ck the game up for everyone else.
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