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JustTakeTheirWordForIt
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:33:00 -
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Just saw this. Dont know how this story didnt make it to GD.
Some Blink Hack http://www.evenews24.com/2012/08/15/somer-blink-official-statement/
Classic Quote: "WeGÇÖd be terminally stupid to rig the system in any way, as it would be the one sure-fire way to kill our business forever."
When someone tells you the reason they won't scam you is because it would be foolish to do it, you're being scammed. |

Anhenka
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:35:00 -
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You made an entire new gimmick character to just shitpost about a completely reasonable statement?
How much did you lose? |

JustTakeTheirWordForIt
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:37:00 -
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Anhenka wrote:You made an entire new gimmick character to just shitpost about a completely reasonable statement?
How much did you lose? only idiots gamble in eve |

Terajima Kazumi
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
67
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:37:00 -
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It is no more a scam than any other lottery system, but some people enjoy the thrill of it even if they're assured to lose money in the long run. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:38:00 -
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The quote Classic Quote: "WeGÇÖd be terminally stupid to rig the system in any way, as it would be the one sure-fire way to kill our business forever." is missing a sentence fragment "if you found out" Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Anhenka
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:39:00 -
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JustTakeTheirWordForIt wrote:Anhenka wrote:You made an entire new gimmick character to just shitpost about a completely reasonable statement?
How much did you lose? only idiots gamble in eve
Ok, so you made a shitposting gimmick character to start a thread claiming scamming on an activity you never did? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9140
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:55:00 -
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AhGǪ I see much larger dividends from my stock in the mining sector in the near future. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:56:00 -
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Never gamble with money you're not prepared to lose...and that goes triple for EVE. 
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½The daily saga of one man's quest to bring civilization to highsec by bumping miners out of range. |

Vixen Soul
The Foreign Legion Fidelas Constans
8
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Posted - 2012.08.17 03:15:00 -
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JustTakeTheirWordForIt wrote:
Google does that. They always say: well you should trust us with all this database power about all of you becasue it would be foolish of us and ruin your trust with us, and therefor we will lose that power. SoulCreative
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.08.17 03:37:00 -
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We only come to GD to talk about how bad somer is and constantly scam us on purpose. Not about how someone tried to scam or hack them. Good day sir! I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
526
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Posted - 2012.08.17 04:01:00 -
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rodyas wrote:We only come to GD to talk about how bad somer is and constantly scam us on purpose. Not about how someone tried to scam or hack them. Good day sir! I thought speaking the truth was a ban able offense now days in GD. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
638
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Posted - 2012.08.17 05:10:00 -
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^ Ain't gonna go near that, mommy didn't raise a fool, that got banned constantly. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |

JustTakeTheirWordForIt
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:18:00 -
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If they aren't scamming, what's up with the shill accounts? |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:33:00 -
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Interesting... Why did the GM's step in and remove the dummy corporation? I thought scamming was okay in eve. |

Takeshi Yamato
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
374
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:42:00 -
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Of course Somer Blink is a scam.
It's just a variation of the "send me ISK and I'll send you ISK back" scam.
They don't even have to resort to deception to be successful when marketing is enough. That said, I would be surprised if they didn't rig the system even more in their favor just because they can. An analysis: fixing active tanking in a logical manner: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1693846 |

Hudzen Ten
Diva-Droid International
10
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:48:00 -
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Why cheat in a game where the house wins every time anyways? Maybe they did abit to get it started, who knows!? but genuine demands now means it just aint necessary.
Thank you Sommer Blink for doing your bit to decrease eve-inflation by removing trillions of isk from the fuk-tards who play it. |

Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:49:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Interesting... Why did the GM's step in and remove the dummy corporation? I thought scamming was okay in eve.
Scamming is allowed however i'm pretty shure there is a rule against impersonation. |

Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
434
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:27:00 -
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Zenos Ebeth wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Interesting... Why did the GM's step in and remove the dummy corporation? I thought scamming was okay in eve. Scamming is allowed however i'm pretty shure there is a rule against impersonation.
Correct - scamming is allowed, but you aren't allowed to impersonate other characters (or corporations). Another example are the people who try to impersonate Chribba also get banned. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
659
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:30:00 -
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Posting in the #99943631524341531-¦ thread about Somer Blink who will in the end, as per usual, show how dedicated and creative these dudes and dudettes are.
Thank you Somer for being awesome  brb |

Zelda Wei
New Horizon Trade Exchange
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:43:00 -
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Allways wondered what their exit strategy would be, must say I never expected it to be we was hacked and robbed! |

Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
178
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:45:00 -
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So Somber Blink is using their own characters to play in the lotteries, then have the lotteries rigged to give most wins to their characters? I can't say that I am surprised. A small group of smart individuals scammed a large group of much dumber individuals, that's EVE. |

Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
136
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:51:00 -
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JustTakeTheirWordForIt wrote: only idiots gamble in eve
you gamble every time you push the undock button.
so, kettle,black etc..
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Jimmy Gunsmythe
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
136
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:53:00 -
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JustTakeTheirWordForIt wrote:Anhenka wrote:You made an entire new gimmick character to just shitpost about a completely reasonable statement?
How much did you lose? only idiots gamble in eve
Everytime you log into Eve, you are taking a gamble. Well, that is, unless you just spin your ship all day and then log out.
SB is just like a casino, and I'm sure the house has some employees placing some bets here and there. Just take it for what it is and have fun with. Don't gamble with what you can't afford to lose. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |

Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
480
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Posted - 2012.08.17 17:05:00 -
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JustTakeTheirWordForIt wrote:Anhenka wrote:You made an entire new gimmick character to just shitpost about a completely reasonable statement?
How much did you lose? only idiots gamble in eve
someone good in math can make a tidy profit at blink with care. i tossed in 500m and walked away with 1bn.
but the important part is I WALKED AWAY WHEN I WAS AHEAD. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.08.17 17:05:00 -
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So wait...
The evidence of scamming (like anyone cares) is some guy who lost ISK, got pissed off, hacked their site, and ran his own scam says so?
Really people? REALLY?    To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Ensign X
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Posted - 2012.08.17 17:14:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:So wait... The evidence of scamming (like anyone cares) is some guy who lost ISK, got pissed off, hacked their site, and ran his own scam says so? Really people? REALLY?   
My guess is, based on the reaction in this thread and in the comment section of the news article, that it's more than enough compelling evidence for a segment of the braindead monkeys among us.  |

Kel Shek
Blue Sun Labs
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Posted - 2012.08.17 17:43:00 -
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I don't get why people are so quick to assume blink is illegitimate.
if I had a scheme going where I made a hefty profit like blink does (even running 100% above board) I sure wouldn't be dumb enough to ruin it by being greedy enough to risk killing the cash cow just to get a little more milk a little sooner.
and as has been said, its a pretty legit point that with the number of interactions on the site, if they cheated, it would come out relatively quickly. and there would be evidence that would actually be solid, rather than the irrational flaky crap, misunderstandings, and bad math, that people come up with now.
personally including everything I've taken out of Blink and everything i've put into it, from the start, totals to about having roughly doubled my money. that's with a little short of 5b deposited, 5 promos won, and 2,700-some blinks played.
now, am I the exception, rather than average? sure.
and in any particular "session" of blinking, I've had win streaks and lose streaks. I've put in 100m+ at a time, and gotten nothing back. ... but I also at least once, put in about 50m, got lucky, and rolled it up to delivering a string of PLEX. sure it takes some luck to get as far ahead as I am. but it takes a lot less luck to merely break even. I've had several times where I would deposit an amount, sometimes just barely, win about what I deposited worth, ... then roll that over and lose it. but that's how it goes.. if you play, you should accept that being a chance.
but you know what? with the upcoming event I plan on putting a few hundred mill more in. and I'll bet I will win enough to at least maintain, if not improve my rate of return. |

Satea Marsh
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.08.17 18:09:00 -
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Kel Shek wrote:but you know what? with the upcoming event I plan on putting a few hundred mill more in. and I'll bet I will win enough to at least maintain, if not improve my rate of return. i see they don't limit the shills to actual betting.
"rate of return" makes it sound like you're investing. which is inherently misleading. its gambling. its unregulated. there are no safeguards or protections in place and no way to prove any of it is legit. The basic concept is so obviously ripe for abuse, none of this should come as a surprise.
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Satea Marsh
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.08.17 18:10:00 -
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Varesk wrote:JustTakeTheirWordForIt wrote: only idiots gamble in eve
you gamble every time you push the undock button. so, kettle,black etc.. show me how you arm and fit your blink account.
no they aren't the same |

JustTakeTheirWordForIt
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.17 21:39:00 -
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its weird with all the scams in eve that no one has ever done real checking up on somer. theres no 3rd party checks or balances on the back end of the site. no way to prove or disprove anything without getting that backend info. even a 30% chance to keep players money adds up fast. the best part is the quote. just believe us that theres nothing going on. just forget everything else you learned in eve. forget it all. just trust us. |
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