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Mctana	Posted - 2011.01.19 02:22:00 - [1] I keep going to the same agent over and over. She gives me missions, I complete them, I go back. Sometimes the missions repeat. I want to move on. So ought we keep running the missions with a particular agent until they offer them no more, or is there an optimal number to do? Or does this all relate to monitoring your standings with the corporation?
Disastro Wrecking Shots -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.01.19 02:48:00 - [2] Its all about standings. However, you do not have to necessarily stick to the same agent. What you need to do is check your standings with another agent in the same line and find one with a higher quality level that likes you well enough to let you run missions with that agent. Then use that one. You will get a slightly higher reward as well as slightly higher bumps in standings with that agent line when you complete missions for the newer agent. You want to keep improving with the same line of agents (IE all Caldari Navy or whatever) until you get standings to move up to level 2, 3 and 4 missions. It does take a little time but not all that long to get to the level 4 missions.
Baltara Caldari Pax Emunio	Posted - 2011.01.19 05:27:00 - [3] Click on the corporate logo in the station panel when docked at your agents' station. Select the "Agents" tab and you will see the agents available for that corporation, organized by division and whether they are available to you or not. Scan the list and you should be able to find a better agent nearby. Do this often when grinding missions. Good hunting.
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2011.01.19 08:19:00 - [4] Agents will never stop offering you mission as long as you have the required standing with their faction/corp, once you reach level 4 missions you will know them inside out after running them a few times. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag. Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited!
Mctana	Posted - 2011.01.19 18:49:00 - [5] Is there an optimal standing I'm looking for from each agent? For example, I'm doing a level 1, base quality 9 agent missions. My standing with him is 2.43. My standing with his corp (Caldari State) is 0.33. His effective quality is 23 with my bonuses. So, how do I know when it's time to "move on"? I see other level 1 agents nearby with qualities in the positive bracket. But is there any advantage to using them, since I have such a high effective quality with this one?
Merouk Baas Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.19 18:55:00 - [6] It's time to move on when you have enough standings with a better agent in the corp. "Better" could mean in a better system, or it could mean higher quality level 1, or a level 2 agent. The higher the quality of the agent the better the payouts. The higher the level of the agent, the tougher the missions are, but you get better loot and better payouts too. People move from agent to agent within a corp until they have enough standing with the corp to have access to its L4 agents. L4 missions typically require a battleship to complete, but the payouts are pretty good (10m per hour or so).
mkmin	Posted - 2011.01.19 18:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Mctana Is there an optimal standing I'm looking for from each agent? For example, I'm doing a level 1, base quality 9 agent missions. My standing with him is 2.43. My standing with his corp (Caldari State) is 0.33. His effective quality is 23 with my bonuses. So, how do I know when it's time to "move on"? I see other level 1 agents nearby with qualities in the positive bracket. But is there any advantage to using them, since I have such a high effective quality with this one? You'll want to focus on one corp within a faction. Standings with a specific agent don't often matter. The only use agent standings are is to let you use that agent, but you only get agent standings by running missions for that agent. Faction standings (Caldari State) are useful for other stuff. To get better agents, watch the corp standings and mission until they are high enough to unlock higher level agents (show-info on the corp and check their agents tab.) Repeat until you reach lvl 4's.
Mctana	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:23:00 - [8] So I have been going from system to system and finding the highest rated agents for multiple corporations and running missions with them. So I'm essentially spreading my standings gain amongst different corporations right now. Is your advice just to stick with one corp and power agent mission on that one in order to reach L3-L4 missions?
Dana Dawn	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Mctana So I have been going from system to system and finding the highest rated agents for multiple corporations and running missions with them. So I'm essentially spreading my standings gain amongst different corporations right now. Is your advice just to stick with one corp and power agent mission on that one in order to reach L3-L4 missions? There are basically two important standings in eve: - corporate standing, every time you do a mission for an agent you get a small increase in standing for its corporation. - faction standing. every 16 missions (at the same level for corporations of the same faction) you get a storyline mission (received via email) where you get a small increase of standing for the faction (and a large increase of standing for the corporation you do the storyline mission for). * The value of the corporate standing allows you to use better agent for that corporation. And corporate standing also increases refining yield and reduces the tax you need to pay for trading, it also unlocks jump clones, locator agents, and harvesting of datacores * The value of the faction standing allows you to use better agent for any corporation in a faction. All of the above (except datacores) are features of this standing (but for all corporations), and also allows placing of towers at highsec moons. So the end goal is to get a high faction standing, because then you can use any agent for any corporation with a faction. To quickly increase in faction standing you need to run storyline missions at a high level. To get storyline missions at a high level you need to run normal corporation missions at a high level. The quickest way to get to a high level corporation missions is to go as quickly as possible from agent to agent within the same corporation, increasing the agent quality each time. The best standing increases you get from combat missions. Agents in certain divisions (command, internal security) give a high percentage of combat missions. Corporations with a high number of agents in those divisions are from the main military corporations of a faction. For gallante this would be the federation navy. One last trick is using the huge corporate standing increase you get from a storyline mission. If you plan to do the 16th mission for an agent where the nearest storyline agent is for the corporation you are want standing in, there is a high probability that that agent will you the storyline. Some warning about negative faction standing. When you are doing combat against a certain faction (the faction will be shown as a icon in the objectives of a mission) you will get negative standings to that faction. You don't really have to worry about losing standing with pirate factions, but you may want to decline missions against the empire factions (gallante, amarr, caldari, minmatar). If your faction standing gets below -5 you will be shot on site when you enter systems belonging to those factions (these are not CONCORD, so you can evade them, but it will be tough). When you do storyline missions you will also get negative standing for the opposing factions (derived standing). But without doing actual combat against those factions the faction standing will not go below -5. There are also a set of social skills that increase standing for both positive and negative standings, increase the amount of standing increase you get for a mission, increase the effective quality of the agents you work with, and increase the amount of payment they give for missions. Although I have a battleships, level 4 missions just take to long currently as I don't have massive skills yet. So I tend to run level 3 missions as you can run more of them in the same time it takes to run a L4 mission. Also the risk of losing my battleship is quite large.
DeMichael Crimson Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2011.01.20 15:01:00 - [10] Good info posted above.

Baneken Gallente School of the Unseen	Posted - 2011.01.20 16:40:00 - [11] Edited by: Baneken on 20/01/2011 16:41:52 lvl 4 missions can take a long time with low skills however once you get enough skills (as in gunnery skills V and drones V and gal bs V and a boat load of other skills at IV/V like I have) you can clear a mission in an hour netting you some 7000lp's and roughly 20mil in bounties and rewards. So you could say that 20mil/hour isn't that far fetched but your real money doing lvl 4's comes from LP store for example a +5 implant costs 65 000lp/65mil ISK and you sell it for 120mils (usually). Point is to find out which LP stuff sells and which doesn't in your particular mission location or a trade hub. Then there is the salvaging part where having a Noctis is golden even is you can get by with a destroyer like we all did for a long long time. Most profitable form of salvaging is/was to manufacture (large armour)rigs and then sell those in the market. But most of all remember that mission running is the social welfare of eve, you can get by but there are better ways to make money. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html


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