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Sofia Bellard Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2011.09.26 02:20:00 - [1] - Quote After recent events and many previous to them, I am seeing many 'claim' to unsubscribe. My questions is; are the kind of players this game needs right now? Sure, sure they pay money, but what do they really contribute to the game? From those saying they are leaving, I have done very extensive research and I can not find any significant contribution they have done in the past. So I say to them, "Don't let the door hit you on the way out!" They will not be missed because they did nothing in the way of the Butterfly Effect. CCP is working on EVE harder than ever and it is high time we get off their back and let them do their job. They work on the game because it is their passion, their love, everything. It is easy for these quitters to throw rocks from a glass house, especially from third party forums like Failheap Challenge and **********, when they don't even play EVE anymore. If your not playing the game, then you have no right to comment on it. So to the haters, I say, "If your not good enough to play, then please shut your cake whole and let the rest of us enjoy the game!" Poor sad little pirates, -áwhy you so mad?
Brock Nelson 17	Posted - 2011.09.26 02:22:00 - [2] - Quote Obviously you care enough about the quitters to make a thread about it
Kitty McKitty In Praise Of Shadows 248	Posted - 2011.09.26 02:24:00 - [3] - Quote shittroll, just block and move on. "Why can't I be different and original, like everybody else?"
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries 150	Posted - 2011.09.26 02:38:00 - [4] - Quote Sofia Bellard wrote: So to the haters, I say, "If your not good enough to play, then please shut your cake whole and let the rest of us enjoy the game!" well... after telling us that you joined EvE mainly because incarna and ask questions like I was wondering in the next expansion bring as much content, fun and fixes as Apocrapha did?, it is difficult to take this thread seriously. Wishes to push full development focus to incarna didn't help either. Perhaps you should look into mirror and repeat the quoted line? Forum fix for firefox and chrome Get working images and colored text Classic forum style 2.25final
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 47	Posted - 2011.09.26 02:41:00 - [5] - Quote Tom, is that you? We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 92	Posted - 2011.09.26 02:42:00 - [6] - Quote I'm curious on what your "extensive research" actually in-tales.
Living Dead Girl Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 48	Posted - 2011.09.26 02:54:00 - [7] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: I'm curious on what your "extensive research" actually in-tales. Me too. Also, Posting in a Tom Alt thread. The Goal Isn't To live Forever, It's To Create Something That Does.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 17	Posted - 2011.09.26 02:57:00 - [8] - Quote Kitty McKitty wrote: shittroll, just block and move on. Oh my ******* god you have a humungoulsy big neck.
Mystic5hadow Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 28	Posted - 2011.09.26 06:31:00 - [9] - Quote Mr Kidd wrote: Tom, is that you? Nah, Tom is usually busy these days crying when me and the Reds gank his Blue ass in his Caracal
Signal11th 54	Posted - 2011.09.26 09:06:00 - [10] - Quote And the most obvious answer is.... they pay the same amount of money as you do so if they want to moan they can..... For me I'm enjoying EVE now as much as I did when I started (apart from the nex store) but if someone wants to moan let them. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster.

Kunming T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire 11	Posted - 2011.09.26 09:36:00 - [11] - Quote Put your self into the possition of CCP. Would you rather have a player base thats mute, never gives any feedback on good or bad? Suddenly your subscribtion numbers drop and you dont even know what you did wrong. Vocal and passionate players might be bad mouthing CCP atm, but eventually they are the true source of feedback. Google "communication models" and you will know what I mean. "I'm going to unsubscribe" is a msg sent by the customer, which means "I liked the product you offered, but since you have made XYZ changes I do not enjoy it and will not pay anymore".
Colt Mitri State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.09.26 10:00:00 - [12] - Quote Sofia Bellard wrote: because they did nothing in the way of the Butterfly Effect. Sofia Bellard wrote: did nothing Sofia Bellard wrote: Butterfly Effect
Sofia Bellard Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2011.09.26 10:02:00 - [13] - Quote Colt Mitri wrote: Sofia Bellard wrote: because they did nothing in the way of the Butterfly Effect. Sofia Bellard wrote: did nothing Sofia Bellard wrote: Butterfly Effect What is your point? Poor sad little pirates, -áwhy you so mad?
Janos Saal Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance 12	Posted - 2011.09.26 10:38:00 - [14] - Quote Sofia Bellard wrote: Sure, sure they pay money, but what do they really contribute to the game? You answered your own question, dickhead. EVE is dead
Colt Mitri State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.09.26 10:57:00 - [15] - Quote Sofia Bellard wrote: Colt Mitri wrote: Sofia Bellard wrote: because they did nothing in the way of the Butterfly Effect. Sofia Bellard wrote: did nothing Sofia Bellard wrote: Butterfly Effect What is your point? You just made it.
Gregor Palter 56	Posted - 2011.09.26 11:01:00 - [16] - Quote Kunming wrote: Put your self into the possition of CCP. Would you rather have a player base thats mute, never gives any feedback on good or bad? Suddenly your subscribtion numbers drop and you dont even know what you did wrong. Vocal and passionate players might be bad mouthing CCP atm, but eventually they are the true source of feedback. Google "communication models" and you will know what I mean. "I'm going to unsubscribe" is a msg sent by the customer, which means "I liked the product you offered, but since you have made XYZ changes I do not enjoy it and will not pay anymore". This is the only thing worth salvaging from this **** thread.
Lucien Visteen Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2011.09.26 11:12:00 - [17] - Quote Most of the mmo's in the market have this group of players. They have been wronged by the developer in some way and to the extent that they feel is unjustifiable. They are also the ones that leave with the most constructive critisism (typo?) for the devs to read. It might be an angry post, but it is excactly how they feel. Unfortunately you also have the ones that reads said post, sees that it gets a lot of attention, maybe even a blue or a red in it, and look for it as a way to get attention themselves. They usually jump on the bandwagon. That way they wont have to make up something new, and their threats are usually hollow. They just want to see if they can get the attention. Anyway. "Quitters" excists in every game, you can't escape them. It is usually better to ignore them. And threads like this one most of the time attracts negative attention. If you wanted open discussion it would be better to word it a little different. If you only wanted to state something then that is fine. I'll just move on then.
Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 116	Posted - 2011.09.26 11:15:00 - [18] - Quote I joined eve in Early beta, participated by finding and posting many bugs and solutions to common problems. I got killed in my Heron by the first titan "hotdrop" by CCP devs promising cruisers to everyone that went to a certain station. I joined the tranquillity server in May 2003 joining PIE a few months after that, I parcipated in the empire wars between Amarr and Minmatar corperations that spearheaded many of the RP events on the server. I saw Jove ships with my own eyes flown by Jove CCP characters I participated in countless battles and skirmisches, fighting, building and progressing to Admiral and Director status of PIE which was at the time THE Amarr Corperation. (together with Imperial Dreams we where CVA) I participated in the anti pirate operations in Sarum that in that time was a 0.4 system next to Amarr, at least partly thanks to PIE and early CVA corperations we role-played Sarum into a 1.0 system. I fought in the very first championship for Amarr succession after the Emperor died, in fact the first time CCP organised an event where players fought each other in an arena. Later this became know as the alliance tournaments. I participated and helped plan the early invasion and clearing of the providence corridor and space which was infested in pirates spearheading the eventual colonization of what become know to be CVA providence. I helped fight Minmatar organisations in and around providence and the Empire under PIE I took a nap I went to the first Fanfest I talked to Reynier and Hilmir and Hammer and other devs about EVE when it was just launched and CCP where brighteyed and fun. I lived in a wormholed experiencing a whole new side of EVE and a whole new meaning to paranoia I rejoined CVA under Epitoth Guard and helped expand and deploy Providence stations. I fought in the expansion war after dominion that eventually irked AA so much they and their allies come to us and took our sov I fought in the infamous DGTMI fleet where CVA lost +-100 capitals while watching a black screen. I roleplayed, fought, killed, died, podded, got podded, read, smiled, suggested, commented, lost, won, preached, prayed, sieged, got sieged for years but with the exception of some old friends and enemies I am nobody. But most of all, I am a man who cares about this universe, has invested time in it and wishes it the best. But I will be leaving on November when my sub runs out for another year if things do not improve. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
A Little Girl 59	Posted - 2011.09.26 11:31:00 - [19] - Quote I watched but I didn't see any stuff. Where is the stuff? Give stuff? OP subject is very misleading you should be ashamed!
Holy One SniggWaffe 17	Posted - 2011.09.26 11:37:00 - [20] - Quote In paradox terminology the op is a 'na+»ve appeaser'. Although I agree, and also found it hilarious when all the forum superstars rage quit ... then came back.

Danks Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds 0	Posted - 2011.09.26 11:49:00 - [21] - Quote There was a fascist leader in Germany in the 1930s who asked if we really need certain kinds of people, look how that turned out.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 37	Posted - 2011.09.26 13:25:00 - [22] - Quote Estel Arador
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 56	Posted - 2011.09.26 13:50:00 - [23] - Quote Haters are always going to hate. There are some people around here that would complain even if they won the lottery. Capitals (Balancing and Roles)
seany1212 The Scowling Men The Laughing Men 11	Posted - 2011.09.26 13:59:00 - [24] - Quote Grey Stormshadow wrote: Sofia Bellard wrote: So to the haters, I say, "If your not good enough to play, then please shut your cake whole and let the rest of us enjoy the game!" well... after telling us that you joined EvE mainly because incarna and ask questions like I was wondering in the next expansion bring as much content, fun and fixes as Apocrapha did?, it is difficult to take this thread seriously. Wishes to push full development focus to incarna didn't help either. Perhaps you should look into mirror and repeat the quoted line? Im going to say -¦This-¦. There were some key players who left eve when incarna was initially released and then with the whole gold ammo fiasco and threads were put up about them but like all stuff people move on and the key players either return as things start to pick up again or move on and are somewhat forgotten about. This was a waste of a thread though, seems like U MAD at people who threatened to unsubcribe, pointless rage is pointless
ROXGenghis Perkone Caldari State 2	Posted - 2011.09.26 14:21:00 - [25] - Quote Actually I think the true situation is the opposite of what the OP states. The people who quit are the ones who care most about the game and have put their heart and soul into it. This level of commitment usually entails being a community leader, whether through blogging, leading corps and fleets, organizing events, making PVP vids, or joining the CSM. I've certainly seen a lot of these high-profile players quit in the past year. It seems to me that the players who happily roll along carebearing or F-1'ing in sov blobs that seem to be sticking around.
Soi Mala Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen 45	Posted - 2011.09.26 14:34:00 - [26] - Quote Danks wrote: There was a fascist leader in Germany in the 1930s who asked if we really need certain kinds of people, look how that turned out. I lolled. hard.
Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 117	Posted - 2011.09.26 14:49:00 - [27] - Quote Soi Mala wrote: [quote=Danks]There was a fascist leader in Germany in the 1930s who asked if we really need certain kinds of people, look how that turned out. Didn't he get invaded by Russians or something? - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Krathos Morpheus Legion Infernal 24	Posted - 2011.09.26 15:17:00 - [28] - Quote Sofia Bellard wrote: From those saying they are leaving, I have done very extensive research and I can not find any significant contribution they have done in the past. Really? Did you speak with their CEOs and corpmates? Also look further as there have been people with public profiles and community efforts leaving too, and even if they didn't, for whom will they develop if the common people leaves?
Yasumoto The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities 11	Posted - 2011.09.26 16:22:00 - [29] - Quote Sofia Bellard wrote: ...CCP is working on EVE harder than ever and it is high time we get off their back and let them do their job. They work on the game because it is their passion, their love, everything... Please elaborate on how CCP is working so hard on EVE. Some examples as well as resource allocation numbers will be helpful in better understanding this point. Thanks. p.s. I have some coolaid in this pitcher on the table if you care to have a drink.
Sujanra Acoma Shadow Kitty Legion Rura-Penthe 2	Posted - 2011.09.26 16:31:00 - [30] - Quote Yasumoto wrote: Sofia Bellard wrote: ...CCP is working on EVE harder than ever and it is high time we get off their back and let them do their job. They work on the game because it is their passion, their love, everything... Please elaborate on how CCP is working so hard on EVE. Some examples as well as resource allocation numbers will be helpful in better understanding this point. Thanks. p.s. I have some coolaid in this pitcher on the table if you care to have a drink. There's none left after the massive whiny circlejerk of the last few months. Christ, I've seen people from 2009 claiming to be "bittervets". It's nothing but a knee-jerk reaction by the hivemind. It's all ME TOO ME TOO I WANNA SHOOT THE STATUE TOO because a few key players had something to complain about. When that thing turned out to be nothing, people just didn't stop whining.



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