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Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.01.19 08:38:00 - [1] We yet again have to log on to EVE Gate, select a character, go into privacy options and AGAIN have to set it to NOT show our info etc - ON EVERY CHARACTER!?! Why can't you just put the default to not show information to left and right. Pretty annoying imo. Or maybe I'm just mad at my new face... /c Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2011.01.19 08:40:00 - [2] Wow! It really is just like facebook. Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
DarkAegix	Posted - 2011.01.19 08:41:00 - [3] Chribba hath bespoken, let it be so.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.01.19 08:41:00 - [4] Heh. Also, the 42px image of ourselves is retained. Direct from CCP's image server: www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
princess abbie TEDDYBEARS. Aesir Empire	Posted - 2011.01.19 08:52:00 - [5] oh ffs, did they reset the damn thing. oh and bad luck with that portrait, your old one was much better. to bad ccp messed up so all races and bloodlines now look exactly the same.. -------------------------------------------- Looking for someone to make me a proper sig
Johnnydee Bigfourte	Posted - 2011.01.23 02:22:00 - [6] Edited by: Johnnydee Bigfourte on 23/01/2011 02:22:37 Originally by: Chribba Why can't you just put the default to not show information to left and right. Default is to have users do plenty of superfluous clicking at hidden places. Be it setup, PI, contracts, .... CCP seems to have very limited knowledge about Interaction Design: == snip == Effective interfaces are visually apparent and forgiving, instilling in their users a sense of control. Users quickly see the breadth of their options, grasp how to achieve their goals, and do their work [..] Anticipation - Applications should attempt to anticipate the userÆs wants and needs. == snip == http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html
Th0rG0d Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.23 02:26:00 - [7] Hmmmmm, all my settings I had previously set are unchanged. Did they stealth revert this change, or am I missing something? Posting in a C thread!!
Potamus Jenkins The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory	Posted - 2011.01.23 02:28:00 - [8] there is a new section Quote: Profile visibility Hide my profile details from public views: Public profiles are visible to people not logged in to EVE Gate. Your privacy settings are still enforced. Public profile details are hidden for trial users Profile details are, for now, hidden from public view to give users time to adjust privacy settings for their characters thats the new part which is unchecked by default THANKS CCP!
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2011.01.23 02:48:00 - [9] Originally by: Johnnydee Bigfourte CCP seems to have very limited knowledge about Interaction Design: == snip == Effective interfaces are visually apparent and forgiving, instilling in their users a sense of control. Users quickly see the breadth of their options, grasp how to achieve their goals, and do their work [..] Anticipation - Applications should attempt to anticipate the userÆs wants and needs. == snip == http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html Their probably isn't a word for intuitive in Icelandic. ------------------------------------------------ Quafe is people!
I likegirls Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.23 02:55:00 - [10] Originally by: Serge Bastana Originally by: Johnnydee Bigfourte CCP seems to have very limited knowledge about Interaction Design: == snip == Effective interfaces are visually apparent and forgiving, instilling in their users a sense of control. Users quickly see the breadth of their options, grasp how to achieve their goals, and do their work [..] Anticipation - Applications should attempt to anticipate the userÆs wants and needs. == snip == http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html Their probably isn't a word for intuitive in Icelandic. I see what you did there. Since CCP is from Iceland, so you are calling them non intuitive.
captain foivos	Posted - 2011.01.23 02:55:00 - [11] I don't understand CCP's fixation with Spacebook. There is no need to reinvent the wheel. Groups have had 7 years to set up useful systems; CCP's calendar and message-posting thing is downright irrelevant. Forcing us to use that system is asinine. -- Need a break from EVE?
Bhattran	Posted - 2011.01.23 03:02:00 - [12] How else might they try and motivate people to use that which hardly anyone uses so they can thusly point to it and say 'lo at that which we hath wrought, thine people doth love it so, alas our greatness knows no bounds!'
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.23 03:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Chribba We yet again have to log on to EVE Gate, select a character, go into privacy options and AGAIN have to set it to NOT show our info etc - ON EVERY CHARACTER!?! Why can't you just put the default to not show information to left and right. Pretty annoying imo. Or maybe I'm just mad at my new face... Ehm.. can you please tell me what ticks you off about people are able to see there? As far as I could see there is the corp/alliance name, then the biography and the employment history. Nothing that's not public and can't be obtained from ingame. Did I miss something? I would be more concerned about the basic contact list settings for people which have excellent standing with you. Again, what do I miss?
mkmin	Posted - 2011.01.23 03:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Tres Farmer Originally by: Chribba We yet again have to log on to EVE Gate, select a character, go into privacy options and AGAIN have to set it to NOT show our info etc - ON EVERY CHARACTER!?! Why can't you just put the default to not show information to left and right. Pretty annoying imo. Or maybe I'm just mad at my new face... Ehm.. can you please tell me what ticks you off about people are able to see there? As far as I could see there is the corp/alliance name, then the biography and the employment history. Nothing that's not public and can't be obtained from ingame. Did I miss something? I would be more concerned about the basic contact list settings for people which have excellent standing with you. Again, what do I miss? One thing you've apparently missed is that CCP doesn't respect your settings, nor your privacy. They have set all your information to public without telling you, and obfuscating it by putting it on 'test.evegate.com'. Yup. on the sisi evegate, you're totally nekkid.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.23 03:31:00 - [15] Originally by: mkmin Originally by: Tres Farmer Originally by: Chribba We yet again have to log on to EVE Gate, select a character, go into privacy options and AGAIN have to set it to NOT show our info etc - ON EVERY CHARACTER!?! Why can't you just put the default to not show information to left and right. Pretty annoying imo. Or maybe I'm just mad at my new face... Ehm.. can you please tell me what ticks you off about people are able to see there? As far as I could see there is the corp/alliance name, then the biography and the employment history. Nothing that's not public and can't be obtained from ingame. Did I miss something? I would be more concerned about the basic contact list settings for people which have excellent standing with you. Again, what do I miss? One thing you've apparently missed is that CCP doesn't respect your settings, nor your privacy. They have set all your information to public without telling you, and obfuscating it by putting it on 'test.evegate.com'. Yup. on the sisi evegate, you're totally nekkid. Ok, I was on the test-gate. But I couldn't see there anything else versus the 'normal' gate.. I'm feeling dumb now Can you give me an example please?
Drew Blaze	Posted - 2011.01.23 03:35:00 - [16] Originally by: Chribba We yet again have to log on to EVE Gate, select a character, go into privacy options and AGAIN have to set it to NOT show our info etc - ON EVERY CHARACTER!?! Why can't you just put the default to not show information to left and right. Pretty annoying imo. Or maybe I'm just mad at my new face... /c Hate the new pic, when did you get cancer?
mkmin	Posted - 2011.01.23 03:47:00 - [17] Originally by: Tres Farmer Originally by: mkmin Originally by: Tres Farmer Originally by: Chribba We yet again have to log on to EVE Gate, select a character, go into privacy options and AGAIN have to set it to NOT show our info etc - ON EVERY CHARACTER!?! Why can't you just put the default to not show information to left and right. Pretty annoying imo. Or maybe I'm just mad at my new face... Ehm.. can you please tell me what ticks you off about people are able to see there? As far as I could see there is the corp/alliance name, then the biography and the employment history. Nothing that's not public and can't be obtained from ingame. Did I miss something? I would be more concerned about the basic contact list settings for people which have excellent standing with you. Again, what do I miss? One thing you've apparently missed is that CCP doesn't respect your settings, nor your privacy. They have set all your information to public without telling you, and obfuscating it by putting it on 'test.evegate.com'. Yup. on the sisi evegate, you're totally nekkid. Ok, I was on the test-gate. But I couldn't see there anything else versus the 'normal' gate.. I'm feeling dumb now Can you give me an example please? For me, all my gate.eveonline.com profile settings were set for private. I go to test.evegate.com and they are all set for public. I checked someone I confident had me blue and he was set for public too (I was able to see his whole contact list.)
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.23 03:54:00 - [18] Originally by: mkmin snip For me, all my gate.eveonline.com profile settings were set for private. I go to test.evegate.com and they are all set for public. I checked someone I confident had me blue and he was set for public too (I was able to see his whole contact list.) That sucks. I checked some people I know and theirs were set for private or whatever the standard is, when I'm a stranger for them, as I couldn't see their contacts. That's why I thought I missed something somewhere else.
JAG Fox GunStars	Posted - 2011.01.23 04:10:00 - [19] Originally by: mkmin For me, all my gate.eveonline.com profile settings were set for private. I go to test.evegate.com and they are all set for public. I checked someone I confident had me blue and he was set for public too (I was able to see his whole contact list.) If the person you checked had you set blue, and allowed blue to see his contacts, then you should be able to see his contacts. I don't get what the problem is!
Trisha Tyranny Taron	Posted - 2011.01.23 04:15:00 - [20] Originally by: JAG Fox Originally by: mkmin For me, all my gate.eveonline.com profile settings were set for private. I go to test.evegate.com and they are all set for public. I checked someone I confident had me blue and he was set for public too (I was able to see his whole contact list.) If the person you checked had you set blue, and allowed blue to see his contacts, then you should be able to see his contacts. I don't get what the problem is! This is a game about paranoia and mistrust, how can have those if you know everything.
Viqer Fell Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2011.01.23 04:24:00 - [21] Originally by: Chribba We yet again have to log on to EVE Gate, select a character, go into privacy options and AGAIN have to set it to NOT show our info etc - ON EVERY CHARACTER!?! Why can't you just put the default to not show information to left and right. Pretty annoying imo. Or maybe I'm just mad at my new face... /c Took me 16 hours to get happy with my new face after the second attempt. :(
Tramadol Hydrochloride	Posted - 2011.01.23 04:28:00 - [22] What is so empty and miserable about your existence that makes you want to you use EVE Gate?
Val'Dore Word Bearers of Chaos	Posted - 2011.01.23 04:29:00 - [23] I think the first attempt was a more trustworthy look.
Mikalya Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.01.23 04:43:00 - [24] Originally by: JAG Fox Originally by: mkmin For me, all my gate.eveonline.com profile settings were set for private. I go to test.evegate.com and they are all set for public. I checked someone I confident had me blue and he was set for public too (I was able to see his whole contact list.) If the person you checked had you set blue, and allowed blue to see his contacts, then you should be able to see his contacts. I don't get what the problem is! The issue being you didn't GIVE him permission, CCP did. Even if you denied it earlier, CCP then reset to give them permission. I find it irritating too and I have no where near the need to be cautious about my information as Chribba does.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2011.01.23 06:30:00 - [25] Originally by: Chribba We yet again have to log on to EVE Gate, select a character, go into privacy options and AGAIN have to set it to NOT show our info etc - ON EVERY CHARACTER!?! Why can't you just put the default to not show information to left and right. Pretty annoying imo. Or maybe I'm just mad at my new face... /c Glad you posted this, I say something everytime they **** it up, but I'm a raving loon. Only way to keep your contacts safe now is to not use Eve to store them but instead a 3rd party program.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2011.01.23 06:49:00 - [26] hmm my settings seem to be show nothing, I set them that way a while ago and they seem to still be that way.
Cyaxares II	Posted - 2011.01.23 07:29:00 - [27] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton hmm my settings seem to be show nothing, I set them that way a while ago and they seem to still be that way. I think a new setting "Hide my profile details from public views" has been added and of course the default options is "off".
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe	Posted - 2011.01.23 07:35:00 - [28] Friendface!! Its your face full of friends.. .no, that anology is over!
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion RONA Directorate	Posted - 2011.01.23 07:35:00 - [29] Wait did C just complain? If he did, you know it will get fixed. coughcomplainaboutthecynoaffectscough ormaybeaboutthequafestationscoughcough*
chossuh Brosefs Incorporated	Posted - 2011.01.23 10:15:00 - [30] What have you got to hide!!! FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dlardrageth ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.23 10:27:00 - [31] Yeah, that reset was about as necessary as a hull repper on a nubship...
Trisha Tyranny Taron	Posted - 2011.01.23 10:28:00 - [32] You look like an unhappy monk now. Still you're probably good a martial arts, grasshopper.
Miloq Or'Vana	Posted - 2011.01.23 11:21:00 - [33] It's an evil ploy by CCP to have people renew their (temporarily) expired alt accounts so they make more real life ISKies. When an account is not subscribed/active, we are unable to undo the privacy options CCP has so kindly changed for us, so we are forced to re-subscribe during the 'grace period' or have the information that the privacy setting has opened up be revealed onbce it ends... CCP please fix this yourself instead of forcing your subscribers to fix it.
Kerfira Kerfira Corp	Posted - 2011.01.23 11:42:00 - [34] What I want is a 'Disable EVEbook completely for this account, never show anything about the characters to anyone, and keep it this way forever or until I say otherwise' option...
DonHel Gallente New Prussia Milita STORM.	Posted - 2011.01.23 11:47:00 - [35] chribba... what happened to your face bro!
Tertiacero Caldari JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION GET IN THE CAR WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.01.23 12:05:00 - [36] Originally by: Kerfira What I want is a 'Disable EVEbook completely for this account, never show anything about the characters to anyone, and keep it this way forever or until I say otherwise' option... This. And put it on the login screen of the client so I can make sure it's checked every time I start eve.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2011.01.24 04:54:00 - [37] I guess Chribba is one of the 1% of players who don't matter and who won't really be adversely effected by limiting the contact system. I've petitioned to have my account removed from Sisi again to avoid being exposed like this everytime they make a change, previously GMs were "sure I'll delete you".... Now they're telling me they have nothing to do with Sisi.
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2011.01.24 05:47:00 - [38] What are these privacy options you speak of? SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN
captain foivos	Posted - 2011.01.24 06:52:00 - [39] What the hell is privacy and what's it doing in my EVE? /sarcasm -- Need a break from EVE?
Chrysta Phine Pretty Hot In Ninja Equipment	Posted - 2011.01.24 11:02:00 - [40] Cheers for letting us know about this. Also, I like your new face Chribba
SkinSin	Posted - 2011.01.24 11:11:00 - [41] Edited by: SkinSin on 24/01/2011 11:14:17 It's funny how no one was interested in this when I brought it up 1 day after the patch was released (oh look, here it is)...
RaTTuS BIG Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.01.24 11:21:00 - [42] Chribba's face is not bad considering the nurf to thin heads Rattus -- Join BIG
Sarina Berghil Minmatar New Zion Judge Advocate Multiple Sargasm	Posted - 2011.01.24 11:28:00 - [43] CCP please, please make these kind of features private by default. They are very hard to find in the first place, and many players probably don't even know they exist. Defaults need to be at the safe setting. The safe setting for showing information is not to show it. The fact that the settings need to be changed for every character makes it even worse. How many knows that in order to set up one account you need to switch characters 3 times? I'll give you 3 pieces of advice in regards to account and game security: KISS KISS KISS
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.01.24 11:42:00 - [44] Quote: What I want is a 'Disable EVEbook completely for this account, never show anything about the characters to anyone, and keep it this way forever or until I say otherwise' option... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This. And put it on the login screen of the client so I can make sure it's checked every time I start eve. It's a corporate trick. The guys in charge of this "quite optional" game feature need to demonstrate it has a purpose. Therefore they force you to use it, therefore by seeing it you could decide to actually use it. If not, you still provided "clicks" whose statistics will show up on some internal document to demonstrate the feature was worth the fat company budget. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Valuv Wraith.Wing Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.02.11 11:06:00 - [45] Heads up, they reset the settings again
Brooks Puuntai Minmatar Nomadic Asylum	Posted - 2011.02.11 11:13:00 - [46] Hey its like facebook all over again. CCP Chribba has spoken so make it so.

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