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Before you find the cost unbearable and start paying montly subs or just quit EVE?

Only plex when I want to check something, then use the remainder of the month to troll the forums. Other then that my accounts stay inactive. Though I have like 20b so not really worried about the price.

20B really won't go far once prices reach a few billion per PLEX.

I've always wondered who is buying all this PLEX with money? I know of a handful of people who may of bought one or two plex in their EVE career. I know many more who sub 1-2 alt accounts month in and month out with PLEX. It would seem to me that the demand should far outweigh the supply.

It hasn't really go up that much. I don't see why so many threads about it. It's still way below 550m. You can make that in a weekend.

If you look at the market graph over a year it's quite likely that something horrible is about to happen.

How many plex are sold in a month?

Only plex when I want to check something, then use the remainder of the month to troll the forums. Other then that my accounts stay inactive. Though I have like 20b so not really worried about the price.

Well, let's see...
...can't sell ISK for RL cash without a ban, so obviously no use for ISK outside of the game...
...not much to do with all the ISK I have since I'm barely actively playing, so most of it can be allocated for PLEX purchase without much flinching even assuming all debtors end up defaulting and I'm left just with my current assets and none of the loans back...
...about 10 more years minimum of vague interest in EVE, probably a bit optimistic, and can always switch to cash payments anyway if interest re-surges after most ISK is gone...
...so, I guess somewhere about around 2 bil ISK per PLEX would still be quite damn comfortable for me personally, and probably would have to go above 5 bil ISK per PLEX before I would go "eh, screw it" and only reactivate once per month or so instead of keeping it perma-active.

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HOWEVER

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On the reverse side, say I would be nearly ISK-less but my interest in EVE would have re-surged, so I'd have to start from the ground up.
In that case, I'd probably purchase a small lump of PLEX with cash and sell for ISK even if PLEX would only sell for about 100 mil ISK a piece.

Really? God damn that's sad.

Before you find the cost unbearable and start paying montly subs or just quit EVE?

After 6-7+ years of playing Eve and after pretty much doing everything, I can't seem to get into it anymore. At times I want to but that quickly fades.

Also being US and usually my play time is 6am-11am EST doesn't help either.

i already pay $, i its gotta suck to throw 500mil away every 30 days.

If youre grinding ISK to pay for your game instead of finding a real decent work, youre doing it wrong IRL.

I always thought PLEX is there mainly for people trying to buy victory and have more pew in bigger hulls, I only met a few children nerds who are too useless to make money to pay with.

I always paid cash for my subs. Had four when I was playing. Tomorrow I will have none. Always wondered why it's supposed to be so cool to plex your subscriptions with isk. Somebody has to put some cash into the game or there won't be a game. Not that I'm all that bothered by the thought, but I might want to come back one day.

This game is cluttered with people who want to convince themselves that they're better than other players for reasons x or y. Just like most other games and real life. I've gone back to playing solo pc games and have much more peace of mind now. Plus lots more time to live real life. MMOs are not for me.

When people make over $175/hour, grinding in-game for ISK is silly when you can just work for an hour and buy billions. I'd rather work for an hour and spend $30 for my five minutes of work or whatever for my two accounts. Which I've canceled anyway.

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If youre grinding ISK to pay for your game instead of finding a real decent work, youre doing it wrong IRL.

I pay the monthly sub on two accounts. I bet some people are like huuur duuur, you pay monthly, lol. Do you buy your music and games too?!

If you're playing the game so much that you can afford PLEX for multiple accounts maybe you should consider, like, I don't know, maybe SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPER? Since it's probably the only game you're really devoted in, apparently. At least one sub shouldn't be too much for anyone...

Plex = Pay to win

you really arent that smart, are you?

plex is a bigger support for CCP than a monthly subscription, dum**ss

Plex = Pay to win

Plex = Pay to win

Plex = Pay to win

I just sold a character (it's what I do).

13M SP. Normally I'd be lucky to get 5.5B for it. But some guy wanted it real bad and offered 8B. I'm not going to turn that down so I log in to set things up and he says, " Hold on a sec. I just have to buy the PLEXes to sell for the sale."

Moral is that not only is PLEX RMT, but it's one of the root causes of the runaway inflation going on right now.

How can a mission runner, miner or builder compete with a guy who has deep pockets IRL and nothing to spend it on but his MMO du jour. PLEX should be removed and just go back to GTC's and make them not sellable for ISK.

Game Time Code. I think people have forgotten what that actually means. Not Get The Cash.

Mr Epeen

Moral is that not only is PLEX RMT, but it's one of the root causes of the runaway inflation going on right now.

PLEX is not an isk faucet. It is a small isk sink really because of transaction taxes.

Neither is buying ISK from an RMT site. Some poor ******* still had to make the ISK to sell. But that doesn't make it right.

Mr Epeen

Just out of interest, what would you sell GTC for if not ISK?

Just out of interest, what would you sell GTC for if not ISK?

I wouldn't sell it. That's the point.

It's purpose is to allow people who can't or won't use a sub to play the game. At least originally. Now it's just a legit avenue for RMT.

Mr Epeen

I've always wondered who is buying all this PLEX with money? I know of a handful of people who may of bought one or two plex in their EVE career. I know many more who sub 1-2 alt accounts month in and month out with PLEX. It would seem to me that the demand should far outweigh the supply.

But I don't understand.

Neither is buying ISK from an RMT site. Some poor ******* still had to make the ISK to sell. But that doesn't make it right.

Mr Epeen

No kidding.

Mr Epeen

It's already at the point where I'm not going to renew.

PLEX is not an isk faucet. It is a small isk sink really because of transaction taxes.

[quote=Maxxatan]But the flip-side of this is that adults in RL do not have unlimited amounts of time to grind for ISK. If all you have is an hour or two a day to play EVE, PLEX is pretty much the only way to be able to afford some of the more pimp gear in a reasonable time frame. EVE is a game to be played for fun; it shouldn't be a second job. PLEX allows more well-heeled players to basically subsidize play-time for poorer players who have more time than money. Both sides win -- that's the glory of a market economy.

It's also a myth that a PLEX is a "play for free" option. Someone paid real money for PLEX, and at some point the PLEX will be consumed as game-time. Poorer folk with more time than money are using RL time to grind ISK to buy PLEX to play EVE. They are simply substituting time for money. (Because in RL as in EVE, time is money.)

Neither is buying ISK from an RMT site. Some poor ******* still had to make the ISK to sell. But that doesn't make it right.

Mr Epeen

That guy didn't increase the amount of ISk in the game by even 0.1 (in fact he almost certainly decreased it a few million).

He also allowed 8 other players to play for a month for free, something that ISK farmers rarely if ever do.