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Peter XZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:13:00 -
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Anyways if you guys are lazy and don't wanna do the research , fine, but why be so antagonistic against people who are not lazy but conscientious and have actually done some research into these things, and refuse to be SHEEP driven by Big Governments who are laughing about the Tranced out state of so many out there who refuse to EVEN LOOK AT THE FACTS.
So ILLOGICAL on your part
Normalcy bias ALERT guys.
**Time Passes, Eternity Awaits, Jesus Saves, and no you can't take Eve with you.** |
Zindela
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:14:00 -
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Edited by: Zindela on 21/01/2011 05:15:26 Edited by: Zindela on 21/01/2011 05:14:35 Now,
After watching the whole goddamn thing, I have come to this conclusion: This guy is a master of repeating himself. He is a master of repeating himself. He is a master of repeating himself.
Sorry, some of it's wearing off on me. He exaggerates almost every claim he makes. I do believe that the US isn't going in a good direction, but this guy is off the deep end. I can't believe I wasted over an hour watching it. He claims he invested time and moeny into the video, I disagre. He read a script into a mic, and then pasted the words into slides. Could have taken me about 3 hours. My personal opinion of this is: He's trying to get people to do things that will make him rich, based on fear of the crisis he predicts. It may or may not be profitable for the sad sobs who try it.
Now about the actual company, Stansberry. I have yet to see a single good refrence to them outside of their own website. They almost don't exist on the internet. There are a few questions about them on answers.com, the initial responses were "Not a reputable company". These were all responded too by the same copy-pasted rebuttal, which claims that Stansberry is great, has made me millions... etc. etc... Pretty sure at this point that this company isn't what he says it is.
If he claimed that the current crisis would happen, all the way back in 2006, during 2008, why didn't we see him tooting his horn? He could have enlisted potentially millions of subscribers then.
Hey, look what I just found the SEC suing Stansberry for Fraud... hehe.
I'll say he's good at one thing: Selling fear. The whole point of this video isn't for helping you, the individual. He wants you to become a subscriber to his 'report'. He wants you to buy his product. Nothing more, nothing less. This guy doesn't give a flying **** about the average joe.
*SNEEZE*
Sorry, I'm alergic to Bull****.
edit... hahaa, I take the time to watch and rebut this, and everyone else has gone and made it a 3 page thread already. -------------------
Originally by: CCP Oveur
Guess what I'm wearing.
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Peter XZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:18:00 -
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@ Zindela How can you accuse the guy of fear mongering when you wrote;
"The US will be able to sustain the borrowing cycle until China can afford to stop exporting so much to the US. When China decides that it't time to call in the US debts, that's when we've got an issue. But that issue isn't going to be the collapse of the American economy. It's probably going to be the collapse of the world economy, along with WWIII."
ROFL **Time Passes, Eternity Awaits, Jesus Saves, and no you can't take Eve with you.** |
Esu Nahalas
The Night Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zindela He's trying to get people to do things that will make him rich, based on fear of the crisis he predicts.
Ya think? (Not being harsh on you--just what should we expect from a salesman who promises, "send me $1000, and I'll give you a tip on a stock that will double (or more) in price?"
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Zindela
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Esu Nahalas
Originally by: Zindela He's trying to get people to do things that will make him rich, based on fear of the crisis he predicts.
Ya think? (Not being harsh on you--just what should we expect from a salesman who promises, "send me $1000, and I'll give you a tip on a stock that will double (or more) in price?"
Haha, I realize I'm stating the obvious. I wouldn't expect you to think anything else.
@ Peter. I would hardly call that fear mongering. What I said wasn't an attempt to incite mass irrationalization and purchase of information that only I have access to.
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Originally by: CCP Oveur
Guess what I'm wearing.
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Gavriel Black
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:35:00 -
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Sounds like the USA needs to invest in some PLEXs!
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gavriel Black Sounds like the USA needs to invest in some PLEXs!
Just don't undock them in a Kestrel. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Peter XZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zindela Edited by: Zindela on 21/01/2011 05:31:18
Originally by: Esu Nahalas
Originally by: Zindela He's trying to get people to do things that will make him rich, based on fear of the crisis he predicts.
Ya think? (Not being harsh on you--just what should we expect from a salesman who promises, "send me $1000, and I'll give you a tip on a stock that will double (or more) in price?"
Haha, I realize I'm stating the obvious. I wouldn't expect you to think anything else.
@ Peter. I would hardly call that fear mongering. What I said wasn't an attempt to incite mass irrationalization and purchase of information that only I have access to.
Though, if you're looking I for a paltry sum of $15.00 deposited to my paypal account, I can ask my Chineese Communist friend exactly when the mentioned withdrawal is going to happen.
As i said don't give him any credit if you don't want to, look around at the other sites in the opening post too.
But you gotta admit, your statement is the ULTIMATE in inciting fear in people, WW3 we all know means the practical annihilation of all life on this planet, except for the Elite military who will be down in Deep Underground Military Bunkers paid for by taxpayers, how long they can wait out a Nuclear Winter, with radioactive materials requiring Thousands of years to Neutralise, noone knows LOL **Time Passes, Eternity Awaits, Jesus Saves, and no you can't take Eve with you.** |
Zindela
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Gavriel Black Sounds like the USA needs to invest in some PLEXs!
Just don't undock them in a Kestrel.
Just watch my video, it has exclusive information on when this event will occur! I won't give much away, but prep your fastest ships, to be the first to the wreck!!! All free, just act now! -------------------
Originally by: CCP Oveur
Guess what I'm wearing.
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:39:00 -
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even with full implosion, eve would still be cheap. anyone with a job doesn't find 15$ expensive. even if that became 30$.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zindela
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Gavriel Black Sounds like the USA needs to invest in some PLEXs!
Just don't undock them in a Kestrel.
Just watch my video, it has exclusive information on when this event will occur! I won't give much away, but prep your fastest ships, to be the first to the wreck!!! All free, just act now!
I can't believe I just clicked on that - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Peter XZ
Anyways if you guys are lazy and don't wanna do the research , fine, but why be so antagonistic against people who are not lazy but conscientious and have actually done some research into these things,
You're like the annoying relative who won't stop preaching at Thanksgiving dinner when everyone else is just trying to eat.
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Zindela
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:45:00 -
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Edited by: Zindela on 21/01/2011 05:46:08
Originally by: Peter XZ ] As i said don't give him any credit if you don't want to, look around at the other sites in the opening post too.
But you gotta admit, your statement is the ULTIMATE in inciting fear in people, WW3 we all know means the practical annihilation of all life on this planet, except for the Elite military who will be down in Deep Underground Military Bunkers paid for by taxpayers, how long they can wait out a Nuclear Winter, with radioactive materials requiring Thousands of years to Neutralise, noone knows LOL
Since the only thing you have to rebut either of my long posts, is that I'm fear-mongering more that you, I am forced to dismiss you as a troll. An effective one, but a troll nonetheless.
How about you try again, and actually pick something out of my posts that you can rebut using facts, and data. Preferably with links to legitimate* sources.
To everyone else, I apologize for my long posts, but someone was wrong on the internet.
*legitimate as determined by me, and/or the greater EVE community. Mostly me.
Originally by: Barakkus
I can't believe I just clicked on that
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Originally by: CCP Oveur
Guess what I'm wearing.
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Darth McDarth
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Peter XZ @ Zindela How can you accuse the guy of fear mongering when you wrote;
"The US will be able to sustain the borrowing cycle until China can afford to stop exporting so much to the US. When China decides that it't time to call in the US debts, that's when we've got an issue. But that issue isn't going to be the collapse of the American economy. It's probably going to be the collapse of the world economy, along with WWIII."
ROFL
If China decides to call in all the US debt at the same time, that's an act of war. The US would be forced to either go to war or collapse on itself.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:54:00 -
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We should nuke China now. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zindela To everyone else, I apologize for my long posts, but someone was wrong on the internet.
I just printed that and gave it to my wife b/c that's how she is about newsvine lol. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.01.21 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Darth McDarth
Originally by: Peter XZ @ Zindela How can you accuse the guy of fear mongering when you wrote;
"The US will be able to sustain the borrowing cycle until China can afford to stop exporting so much to the US. When China decides that it't time to call in the US debts, that's when we've got an issue. But that issue isn't going to be the collapse of the American economy. It's probably going to be the collapse of the world economy, along with WWIII."
ROFL
If China decides to call in all the US debt at the same time, that's an act of war. The US would be forced to either go to war or collapse on itself.
Two things:
A) The US's entire debt isn't to China. In fact, the VAST majority if the US's debt is owed to investors in the US itself. As of 2007, 25% of the US's debt was financed by foreign countries.
B) These are bonds; China (and investors) can't simply "call in" the debt. As China purchases bonds, the US doesn't have to honor those bonds until they mature. And China doesn't own all bonds that mature on the same date. So the US only has to pay off a "small" number of bonds at a time. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Planktal
Gallente Kenshao Industries Galactic Acqisition Specialists
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Posted - 2011.01.21 07:52:00 -
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it's simple, scams, the video is a scam, plain and simple, scam idiots out of their money, that's how the rich survive a financial crisis, DUH!
See the same things happen in EVE, idiots giving their isk to scammers. . . Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. Everyone has a right to be stupid, just some people abuse the privilege. |
Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.01.21 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Peter XZ 42 million Americans on food stamps, doesn't sound like a recovery to me, and I live in Australia, our Dollar is now worth more than the US dollar and its getting stronger.
Do you realise how easy it is to get food stamps. Hell even well off lower middle class can get them.
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Mace Maddox
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Posted - 2011.01.21 08:02:00 -
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Who cares about US economics? When people are out of work here they can spend some time playing EVE
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.01.21 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: stoicfaux Wake me when a significant number of professional engineers publicly state that there was something odd in the way building 7 collapsed.
Wake up.
Quote: 1,419 verified architectural and engineering professionals
Man, we really have an education gap in the U.S., worse than I thought even. 1,419 is 90 percent of our architectural and engineering profesionals. That is terrible, how did this happen. Never mind that 911 truth crap, where the hell did all our engineers go!?!?!
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Spineker
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.21 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gavriel Black Sounds like the USA needs to invest in some PLEXs!
LOL some RMT Bots
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Peter XZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: Peter XZ on 21/01/2011 09:14:38
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: stoicfaux Wake me when a significant number of professional engineers publicly state that there was something odd in the way building 7 collapsed.
Wake up.
Quote: 1,419 verified architectural and engineering professionals
Man, we really have an education gap in the U.S., worse than I thought even. 1,419 is 90 percent of our architectural and engineering profesionals. That is terrible, how did this happen. Never mind that 911 truth crap, where the hell did all our engineers go!?!?!
well the education gap in US is substantial according to the famous Miss Teen South Carolina Incident a couple of years ago ROFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww ( A FIFTH of Americans can't locate USA on world map?? Yes , this is Documented Evidence, and its the government dumbing down its population thru a pathetic education system.)
Anyway, more info for you all, enjoy, and don't be a mainstreaM media sheep
http://www.infowars.com/lindsey-williams-returns-china-owns-the-united-states/
And yes CCP can come through this if they prepare. Thats the whole point of the topic.
**Time Passes, Eternity Awaits, Jesus Saves, and no you can't take Eve with you.** |
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:18:00 -
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/facepalm <sigh>
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:36:00 -
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The problem with the US is that the politician don't know how to say no.
Its basically a mathematical problem they've known for years. The birthrate was never high enough to sustain Social Security and Medicare which are Ponzi schemes for more than a generation.
The problem is we have to say No, we have to remove or severely curtail all safety net programs and we have to stop our overly generous support of interests outside our states. I think Donald Trump said it well this past week, Why are we defending all these nations? Shouldn't we be charging them for defense.
If the US economy fails though it will take everyone with it. China is to dependent on exports to the US, as is most of Latin America and Southeast Asia. Many Africa countries are almost entirely supported by US donations/aid.
There is still time to stop it which will slow the global economy but make it long term viable and that is the US has to cut spending to meet its income, and that's about a 50% cut across the board. They have to go from deficit budgets to budget surpluses. I hear politicians that always point to the Clinton years and go we had a balanced budget then. No you didn't you manipulated the data and the debt increased those years just like it did the others. The US has not had a balanced budget or surplus in a century. It is time to say no more and to curtail spending.
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IoWalker
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:41:00 -
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loving this thread
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Zindela
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:48:00 -
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You know Peter...
You're calling us sheeple, yet you're the one mindlessly following the fringe. You're the one that has his information spoon-fed by others. You want us to break out of our routines, yet you won't understand that when the community considers your websites biased, that you should stop linking the same ones. I can find, and link sources from all over the world to support my arguments. Let's see you do the same.
I again call upon you to make legitimate rebuttals to the counterarguments presented elsewhere in the thread. Find the proof yourself, then post it here. Using your own research, from print sources. No Infowars. No Globalagenda. Preferably in a rational, logical flow, with good grammar, sentence structure, and correct capitalization. I still don't believe that you have satisfactorily answered the claims that Stedsberry has been convicted of fraud in the past.
You have a lot of holes in your side, that all need patching before you have a full argument.
And on your last link, if China 'owns' the US, the US must therefore be one of its largest investments. It is in China's best interest to keep the US functioning. Therefore, we shouldn't have anything to worry about for the next few decades, as China wouldn't do anything to endanger it's investment, right?(note, I don't actually believe this, but it's an example of the conclusions that can easily be drawn from crappy sources.)
All this thread has shown me so far is that global warming is caused by lizard people, as was 9/11. Lady Gaga was the mastermind. Also: this seems like an appropriate metaphor for this topic. Much like the rocket, you had some merit at the beginning, but now it's just coming back to hit you in the ass. -------------------
Originally by: CCP Oveur
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Zora'e
Amarr Nocturnal Dementia
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:48:00 -
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/me backs away from the thread.
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Khorian
Gallente Versatech Co. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: Khorian on 21/01/2011 09:50:24 Will you people please stop feeding this troll and let the topic die? Pretty please? I know there are some weak minded, easily manipulated individuals (like this Peter XZ guy for example) out there that will actually click the links and believe what they see.
That is why religion for example got so powerful in the first place, because people are so easily manipulated. And they threw and still throw their money at the churches.
Its horrible.
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Djinn Xh'rnae
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:52:00 -
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Peter, please stop posting your infowars ******-gibbering. Infowars is on the same level of newsworthiness as National Enquirer and the Weekly World News.
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