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Grey Noise
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.18 03:56:00 -
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Ok I've tried plenty of builds, and none people have given me qwuite live up to what I am looking for. So I';ll post exactly what I need and see if anyone knows of a good setup.
>The ship itself doesn't matter, I can afford whatever, but should be a solid gallente drone boat.
>It needs to have an afterburner or MWD
>I only need one gun really, I don't care if the missions take a long time, I like to salvage everything, so tractor beams and salvagers probably a must.
>What drones too... I want to pretty much pull aggrpo then afk while my drones wreck through everything. Obviously I wouldn;t really AFK but you get the idea. I'm more than positive I am skilled for whatever builds you can throw at me. I hope you guys can help me out! |

Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
125
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Posted - 2012.08.18 04:08:00 -
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Dominatrix was taken out of the game? When? Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat desert first! |

Illest Insurrectionist
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.18 04:09:00 -
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Mommy, is this what they call trollin' ? |

Hakaimono
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2012.08.18 04:13:00 -
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I'm guessing you're new here aren't you
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Grey Noise
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.18 04:35:00 -
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totally serious, I know there are builds for this out there somewhere, just can't find em. |

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2012.08.18 04:36:00 -
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So what is it that you've tried and not liked in the past? Give us something to work with here. |

Grey Noise
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.18 04:42:00 -
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Well basically most people throw out builds that involve a ton of guns and those builds require them, I'm just looking for a build, that allows me to do these missions without using the guns, I like to equip a single gun, and then just use tractors/salvagers. But most builds can't get an afterburner or mwd on and I pretty much need that for making ANY use of salvaging. I dunno maybe there just is no build that will cover this, but I am really just trying to get set up for lvl 4s and don't know what to do |

Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.18 04:57:00 -
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So basically you want something like this:
[Dominix, New Setup 5] Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Like being the operative term as you could pobably, depending on skills, get away with swapping one CR2 for a second omni 2. Or if your entire purpose is to go AFK during the missions and you field heavy drones:
[Dominix, New Setup 5] Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Grey Noise
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.18 05:24:00 -
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ok yah those are cool builds, and I am pretty sure I can use those. But what drones should I be using in lvl 4s, it's been so long, I 'm not sure which are solid for that lvl. Ogres? gardes? I appreciate the help! |

Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.18 06:52:00 -
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Grey Noise wrote:ok yah those are cool builds, and I am pretty sure I can use those. But what drones should I be using in lvl 4s, it's been so long, I 'm not sure which are solid for that lvl. Ogres? gardes? I appreciate the help!
Ogres, Gardes, Hammerheads, Hobgoblins, Warriors for instance.
Aka one set of sentries, another with large, mediums and a couple of small ones. Maybe some alternative damage types for Mediums.
Oh, and with maybe 15 days of training you should be able to get in to a Rattlesnake too. Much better then a Domi. |

Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.18 09:25:00 -
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Minmatar drones for Angel missions, Gallente drones for everything else if you're lazy. Minmatar drones do fairly good on generic merc missions, and with how far back Guristas rats hang and EoM rats spawn in Gone Berserk you might make a case for wardens, but overall those two generalizations get the job done.
You can make a case for using sentries even if you plan on zipping around to loot/salvage, but if you do do that it might be worth considering wardens for Serpentis, Guristas, EoM, Mordus, and merc missions. T2 wardens have up to a 75km optimal (after skills) and with two omni links they hit 114km optimal with 30km falloff. In short within limits it doesn't matter where you are in mission space, so long as your targets are within your drone control range your wardens can, and will, hit them. At least so long as they're out far enough to not make tracking an issue.
EoM, Guristas, and Mordus are all weak to kinetic damage and all three tend to either hand back a goodly distance from your ship or spawn out a goodly distance. Once you can guarantee your sentries won't get aggro'd and blown up deploying them, MWD'ing out 40-50km, and looting/salvaging while they kill is a viable option. Not recommended, but viable. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.18 12:51:00 -
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Regular Dominix
Navy issue Dominix - my favourite
Ishtar - never flown one yet, but folk rave about them for all sorts of game play, including level 4 missions. You want fries with that? |

EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.18 13:07:00 -
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Domi navy issue, same setup as above but use a faction armor repper and another cap recharger II in the extra mid. |

Mutant Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
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Posted - 2012.08.18 13:36:00 -
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[Dominix Navy Issue, ] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II
Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Anti-Thermic Pump II Large Anti-Kinetic Pump II
Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Berserker II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5
There OP, it fits your criteria.  |

Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
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Posted - 2012.08.19 08:57:00 -
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Mutant Caldari wrote:[Dominix Navy Issue,  ] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Anti-Thermic Pump II Large Anti-Kinetic Pump II Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Berserker II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 There OP, it fits your criteria. 
You may as well throw some overdrives in the lows too.
Trying to get a Domi to go fast is just not worth it. Its a space potato.
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Mutant Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
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Posted - 2012.08.19 12:09:00 -
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Zaraz Zaraz wrote:Mutant Caldari wrote:[Dominix Navy Issue,  ] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Anti-Thermic Pump II Large Anti-Kinetic Pump II Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Berserker II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 There OP, it fits your criteria.  You may as well throw some overdrives in the lows too. Trying to get a Domi to go fast is just not worth it. Its a space potato. lolwut. I can see the point of that fit went right over your head. A.) It was a lulz fit based on a lulz request from the OP and B.) In what way am I trying to "make a Domi go fast"? Besides adding an AB which is actually common on mission boats. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:47:00 -
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Grey Noise wrote:ok yah those are cool builds, and I am pretty sure I can use those. But what drones should I be using in lvl 4s, it's been so long, I 'm not sure which are solid for that lvl. Ogres? gardes? I appreciate the help!
Garde II's for short-medium range sentry damage. Warden II's for long range sentry damage. Hobgoblin II's for frigate clean up. Ogre II's if you feel like it.
Really a set of sentries and an assortment of medium/lights should do you just fine. You are going to want T2 drones though because the damage is so much better than the T1s. Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |

Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.19 21:05:00 -
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Ogre Iis work decently for frigate cleanup as well. They're not as fast in getting to them as light drones, but they don't **** around orbit-looping for a couple seconds either and do about as much effective damage from what I've seen. Granted, however, I don't routinely watch my drones take down frigates and take notes over it. The few times I have paid attention they were both pretty comparable in take-down times though. With an omni-link or two Ogre IIs should kill frigates faster than Hobgoblins, but it's up to the pilot to decide whether they do it fast enough to warrant the slower movement speed. |

Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
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Posted - 2012.08.20 00:04:00 -
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Mutant Caldari wrote:Zaraz Zaraz wrote:Mutant Caldari wrote:[Dominix Navy Issue,  ] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Anti-Thermic Pump II Large Anti-Kinetic Pump II Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Berserker II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 There OP, it fits your criteria.  You may as well throw some overdrives in the lows too. Trying to get a Domi to go fast is just not worth it. Its a space potato. lolwut. I can see the point of that fit went right over your head. A.) It was a lulz fit based on a lulz request from the OP and B.) In what way am I trying to "make a Domi go fast"? Besides adding an AB which is actually common on mission boats.
Its just that the way the AB cost 200 mil. |

Mutant Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
6
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Posted - 2012.08.20 00:26:00 -
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Zaraz Zaraz wrote:Mutant Caldari wrote:Zaraz Zaraz wrote:Mutant Caldari wrote:[Dominix Navy Issue,  ] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Anti-Thermic Pump II Large Anti-Kinetic Pump II Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Berserker II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 There OP, it fits your criteria.  You may as well throw some overdrives in the lows too. Trying to get a Domi to go fast is just not worth it. Its a space potato. lolwut. I can see the point of that fit went right over your head. A.) It was a lulz fit based on a lulz request from the OP and B.) In what way am I trying to "make a Domi go fast"? Besides adding an AB which is actually common on mission boats. Its just that the way the AB cost 200 mil. Ship costs 405, AB is 200, the cap rechargers are, what, 40 mil each? How much are each of the T2 rigs? Should I have thrown X-type reps/Hardeners on to reinforce the point even more or are we good now?
[Dominix Navy Issue, Just for you] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Anti-Thermic Pump II Large Anti-Kinetic Pump II
Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Berserker II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 |

Maeltstome
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.08.20 15:27:00 -
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Quote:[Ishtar, Level 4's]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Internal Force Field Array I
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Small Tractor Beam I [Empty High slot] Salvager I [Empty High slot] 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Ogre II x5
Will handle guris fine. Can go for more tank and less gank if you like... but it's pretty afk and easy. |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
256
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Posted - 2012.08.20 15:49:00 -
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I have run a lot, I mean a lot of missions.
This Ishtar fit is a semi-afk one I use. It is designed to speed tank Amarr and Merc missions. Against Guristas, Serps, and most Angel missions you can be stationary, or simply in a tight orbit around an object. I prefer dropping Sentries and orbiting them at 1000 m until a new spawn arrives.
But I do change the passive hardener for damage type. I will use a faction or c-type, but it has to be passive. This boat has very little cap to play with, and running the a/b, salvager, and tractor at once will eventually drain you if you have an active hardener. With a passive hardener, you will be fine
Caveats:
1. This fit is NOT a high DPS boat. The effective damage of dones (except for sentries) is very low, plus you always have to worry about aggro on the drones. Missions take longer than they would with other boats. 2. I have lost several in Amarr missions where I had grabbed all the aggro, set a very large orbit around an object, only to come back 10 minutes later to a pod because I got hung up on some structure I had not envisioned in my way.
Advantages: 1. If you grab all the aggro in a room (all potential spawns), and set a smart orbit, you can basically speed/resist tank most missions while you operate another char/ read book/ do real work. I love Recon I with Amarr since I can simply orbit at 35 km from the gate, and wait for all aggro to appear, then I walk away, make a sandwich, and come back to lots of lovely wrecks to salvage, with great bounties.
BUT...if you are into maximum efficiency in a mission, go with the Navy Domi, or get into a gunboat like a Vargur, Mach, or Nightmare.
[Ishtar, Mission Runner] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Domination 10MN Afterburner Large Shield Extender II Dread Guristas EM Ward Amplifier
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M Small Tractor Beam II Salvager I [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
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Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
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Posted - 2012.08.20 23:43:00 -
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Mutant Caldari wrote:Zaraz Zaraz wrote:Mutant Caldari wrote:Zaraz Zaraz wrote:You may as well throw some overdrives in the lows too. Trying to get a Domi to go fast is just not worth it. Its a space potato. lolwut. I can see the point of that fit went right over your head. A.) It was a lulz fit based on a lulz request from the OP and B.) In what way am I trying to "make a Domi go fast"? Besides adding an AB which is actually common on mission boats. Its just that the way the AB cost 200 mil. Ship costs 405, AB is 200, the cap rechargers are, what, 40 mil each? How much are each of the T2 rigs? Should I have thrown X-type reps/Hardeners on to reinforce the point even more or are we good now? [Dominix Navy Issue, Just for you] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Imperial Navy Cap Recharger 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Anti-Thermic Pump II Large Anti-Kinetic Pump II Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Berserker II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5
No, its still not obvious enough. Wouldn't it go faster with some officer mods?
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