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Tyrinious Aravelious	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:54:00 - [1] I have a simple idea to make mission's a little more fun for those of us forced to grind them for isk. As we all know there are times when your solo, or you want to be solo and get offered a mission you just cannot complete on your own, so you decline it and try again...now your boned because the second one is in the same catagory of incompletable alone. so here is what I suggest, instead of the agents giving you a mission when you access an agent how about they give you a 4-5 mission choice.. " hey kid this is what I have pick one" type thing. or you can do it both ways by selecting the agent you could take the first one he gives you, or you can click " give me a choice" maybe even the "Give me a choice" section could have a 5% reduced pay out for isk and lp? some sort of punishment for not being willing to take what that agent needed done right this instant? it is just a thought, and I know there are a ton of people out there a lot smarter than me that will add ther ebetter idea's to this post so please guys, hash it out and maybe CCP will come on board too! Ty.

CCP StevieSG	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:57:00 - [2] Moved to Features and Ideas from EVE General.

BKM Industries Mercenaries 4 Hire	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:58:00 - [3] I agree about the idea and about alot of people being alot smarter then you bro.
Erlighet	Posted - 2011.01.21 16:12:00 - [4] I like the idea!
fishycat	Posted - 2011.01.21 16:13:00 - [5] Make it a 25% cut in LP and we're talking, good idea.
Allant Doran Amarr Locus Industries	Posted - 2011.01.21 16:16:00 - [6] I like the idea as a whole, the only problem I can think of is finding some way to balance the more lucrative missions. It may end up that if they turn up too often, a 5% drop in ISK and LP rewards could still, overall, be an increase in profit if they come up too often. I get bored with PvE too so overall I think this would be a great Idea, especially since I seem to be WORSe at PvE than I am at PvP (However that happens) so yeah, i'd be for it.
Wal Enderson	Posted - 2011.01.21 16:56:00 - [7] I like it. It gives mor versatility with the reprocussions of you not taking the first offer. Essentially a better, less detrimental way to decline a mission.
Otalp	Posted - 2011.01.21 17:06:00 - [8] Brilliant idea old man. I do a lot of high sec missions and have started doing the low sec missions...it would be nice to have more versitile agents who offer choices. I approve this message.
Sid Lemming Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.21 17:07:00 - [9] Great idea. I'm tired of receiving the same bloody mission in a row ... after I already declined it. +1
Toval OdoVas Amarr Stronghold of the Condemned	Posted - 2011.01.21 17:15:00 - [10] I love it. This is something I would really like to see happen. Militus Puritum
Lamthara Lachesis Amarr Neo Uroboro Explorations	Posted - 2011.01.21 17:23:00 - [11] nice nice idea. ...nicer than ever considering i've discovered it flying in Evati and you were linking the thread in local. Ah... advertisement is everywhere :)
Tyrinious Aravelious	Posted - 2011.01.21 17:31:00 - [12] yes I have been linking it in a lot of local channels trying to gain support. the more people on board the quicker CCP may notice it. the other Idea I had was maybe only offer 3 missions. if none of them are the ones you like you can still decline them to get a rotation of 3 more... the second 3 if you dont like them you would have to delay just like normal but it would give you more options. just a thought. Ty.
TOOOOL	Posted - 2011.01.21 19:53:00 - [13] sounds good
Lo Solice	Posted - 2011.01.21 19:54:00 - [14] word
Allant Doran Amarr Locus Industries	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:43:00 - [15] Another potential balance is that, if you ask an agent for a selection of, say, 4 potential missions, you have to complete at least 2 of them before the agent will offer a totally new rotation of missions. Of course, this is all just theorizing on my part, I am in no way a game balancer or anything but it's an idea.
Berikath	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:04:00 - [16] IMHO- Maybe with some tweaking. Something like each mission gets weighted based on how much it gets chosen- the more often it's chosen/more desirable it is, the less frequently it shows up. Something like... let's say Angel Extravaganza, for example. Agent so-and-so gives AE 5% of the time currently, and everybody picks it when it shows up on the list. It gets weighted, and now AE only shows up... say, 1-2% of the time on the list, so you'll get the more desirable missions more frequently going blind than choosing, but if you want to avoid some missions that you REALLY hate you can do it. * [ SIG] * Wish list for PI: One-click input routing Copy product, inputs & outputs in factories *Launchpad upgrades: twice the space, twice the cost, half the hassle! [ /sig ]
Tyrinious Aravelious	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:25:00 - [17] Has anyone's Idea every been taken up by CCP and implimented? or am I pushing a rock up a mountain?
Berikath	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:31:00 - [18] Originally by: Tyrinious Aravelious Has anyone's Idea every been taken up by CCP and implimented? or am I pushing a rock up a mountain? There's a skill queue now. That was player-requested. I figure if you get about 10,000 of your closest (subscriber) friends to agree with you and ask CCP for it, you'll have a good chance of seeing it happen sometime in the next... say, 6 years. * [ SIG] * Wish list for PI: One-click input routing Copy product, inputs & outputs in factories *Launchpad upgrades: twice the space, twice the cost, half the hassle! [ /sig ]
Alcide Katelo Caldari Arktech Industrial Complex	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:43:00 - [19] I dont mission, but +1 from me. Excellent idea if you ask me, but the penatly needs to be a bit harsher. 5% isnt enough. Youre passing up the needed mission which currently would kill your standings (well hurt them anyways) The penalty for bypassing the mission should be more along the lines of 10-15% if you ask me since youre still gaining standing and making a profit.
Initori Kawashime	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:53:00 - [20] how about by refusing the mission, you only get a standing boost for the next accepted mission, and no money, [or money and no standing] noone is 'forced' to grind missions, they do it for isk or standings or both, to get something better [by choosing your own missions] you need to take something painful for it, make things too easy and you break the dam walls
Tyrinious Aravelious	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:56:00 - [21] Initori Kawashime Posted - 2011.01.21 22:53:00 - [20] - Quote Report how about by refusing the mission, you only get a standing boost for the next accepted mission, and no money, [or money and no standing] noone is 'forced' to grind missions, they do it for isk or standings or both, to get something better [by choosing your own missions] you need to take something painful for it, make things too easy and you break the dam walls I see your point but on the same note, it is no easier than people spamming jita for scams or buying isk from plex or other devices. at least your still -working- for isk this way just making it a bit easier for players trying to do eve honest to keep up with all the ...less honest of the lot.
Initori Kawashime	Posted - 2011.01.21 23:48:00 - [22] there are not many stats around proving the success of those who scam, but there are many stats around proving the success of well planned missioning, i still think that fighting fire with fire is not a great idea, you need to be clear about why you want these changes, if it is to fight the scammers or to make missioning more profitable and/or enjoyable im a firm believer in right tool, right job Originally by: Tyrinious Aravelious Initori Kawashime Posted - 2011.01.21 22:53:00 - [20] - Quote Report how about by refusing the mission, you only get a standing boost for the next accepted mission, and no money, [or money and no standing] noone is 'forced' to grind missions, they do it for isk or standings or both, to get something better [by choosing your own missions] you need to take something painful for it, make things too easy and you break the dam walls I see your point but on the same note, it is no easier than people spamming jita for scams or buying isk from plex or other devices. at least your still -working- for isk this way just making it a bit easier for players trying to do eve honest to keep up with all the ...less honest of the lot.
cyndrogen	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:22:00 - [23] if the agent offers you 5 missions choices, you can choose ONE of the five, when you finish the mission you have 4 choices left. finish that mission and now you have 3 choices. When you finally get to that last mission you have been avoiding like the plague you can choose to quit and get another 5 choices. However if you don't like ANY of the 5 choices you don't get to choose the next time around until you complete another mission.
Tyrinious Aravelious	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:27:00 - [24] I like that last idea too, but maybe instead of down to the last one go down to the last 2, then you can cancel? just a thought.
cyndrogen	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:31:00 - [25] Edited by: cyndrogen on 22/01/2011 00:33:39 Edited by: cyndrogen on 22/01/2011 00:32:13 Originally by: Tyrinious Aravelious I like that last idea too, but maybe instead of down to the last one go down to the last 2, then you can cancel? just a thought. Well you should be able to cancel at ANY time, but if you do then you lose the right to choose from the next 5 until you finish a mission. You can quit after completing only 2 missions and try your luck with the next batch. I mean technically this mechanic already exists, if you dont like a mission from ONE agent you try from another one from the same corporation, although this can be problematic if the agents you want are far apart.

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