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Dane Fallstar
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:21:00 -
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Dear MD
This is my first ever request, but please take the time to read my offer.
 WhatÆs the isk for?
I run a fairly big (by my standards) trading chain, usually about 600 orders in several different locations. And this isk will go to kick-start me back into business. I thought I was leaving the game for the foreseeable future and spent most of my isk on GTC's to keep my accounts running for training. But IÆm back with no descent liquid to start up again.
Why such a large bond?
I've seen many bonds here below 5B and 10B is a very large amount for a bond with no collateral (hence the large return), all I can say is that 10B still really isnÆt that much isk when it comes to trading, and borrowing 2>5B wouldn't really help me at all. I have been trading for a bit over two years and been able to pay for 5 accounts with GTC's +fund my pvp habit no problems.
Risks
I do move things across regions, usually in a jump freighter with a webbing alt and I try to keep the amount of isk <2bill in each load. Never had a problem with ganks. The JF will never go into lowsec/0.0
This bond has no collateral as I donÆt have anything of real worth besides my JF which is needed for operation.
Length of the bond
The length is set to 30 days. which is ample time to get me started again.
In conclusion I am requesting 10B at 12% over a 30 day period, This isk is to fund my kick-start trading venture. Thankyou for reading and please don't flame because this is a genuine offer.
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silent Serena
Khanid Mineral Reserves
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:32:00 -
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Any chance of audit?
Have you got any history of succesful repaid loans or bonds?
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You What
Smokers' Heaven
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:32:00 -
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As have been asked in other similar threads:
"Do you promise not to scam?" |
Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:33:00 -
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You should ask the old pirate corp you used to do jump freighting for a loan.
This is your first post ever on this forum, and only your fourth ever on the whole site. |
Dane Fallstar
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:38:00 -
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I do have a history of repaying loans 4 times or so, I can try to get the characters to post in here but they are fairly innactive. (these were loans all made outside of MD) I could possibly get an audit if it comes to that.
As for scamming, all I can say is that this offer is genuine and completely up to you whether or not you wish to risk it or not, as I said before the high risk will be repaid by the large interest rate. |
Dane Fallstar
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Kalrand
You should ask the old pirate corp you used to do jump freighting for a loan.
This is your first post ever on this forum, and only your fourth ever on the whole site.
I don't post on the forums, and I dont see how my posting trends should influence my trustworthiness. I have seen you complain about this in several different threads. Please explain your logic.
As for the pirate corp, I am a member of the corp, as I have stated I use trading to fund my pvp. Every member of that corp will vouch for my honesty. |
Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dane Fallstar
I dont see how my posting trends should influence my trustworthiness.
It doesn't in and of itself, but one of the hallmarks of a drive by loan scam is someone who never ever posts here showing up and asking for several billion isk uncollateralized. |
Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:57:00 -
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Ten billion may not be a lot as an overall NAV but it's a lot to just come in as a stranger and beg off of people for no security whatsoever. |
Rykker Bow
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Posted - 2011.01.23 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Rykker Bow on 23/01/2011 14:43:18
Originally by: Dane Fallstar
I've seen many bonds here below 5B and 10B is a very large amount for a bond with no collateral (hence the large return), all I can say is that 10B still really isnÆt that much isk when it comes to trading, and borrowing 2>5B wouldn't really help me at all. I have been trading for a bit over two years and been able to pay for 5 accounts with GTC's +fund my pvp habit no problems.
I've never seen such a large bond get filled by a player without either an extensive past bond history or collateral. And 10b is a lot of money. I try to keep my perspective by translating it into plex. 10b is 30 months of gametime.
Originally by: Dane Fallstar
I don't post on the forums, and I dont see how my posting trends should influence my trustworthiness. I have seen you complain about this in several different threads. Please explain your logic.
As for the pirate corp, I am a member of the corp, as I have stated I use trading to fund my pvp. Every member of that corp will vouch for my honesty.
Players with long posting history have more to lose than someone who just pops up out of nowhere. It can give insight into how the player thinks and acts helping potential investors decide if the player is trustworthy.
About this pirate corp, what is it you did (or they did) on a normal basis? Ganking, ransoming, poding? Just saying youÆre in a pirate corp is pretty broad and would like to narrow it dwn.
In an effort to contribute to the op IÆll offer this advice: find some collateral from the corp and this will fill quickly at a much lower interest rate.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.01.23 15:38:00 -
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Save yourself a lot of time and probably irritation if you are genuine about your offer because the chance of getting it is HIGHLY unlikely.
No post history , a too high amount to start off with , appearantly in a pirate corp , no collateral and i am just going over the obvious flaws now not even trying to go deeper.
Really , try to get a loan from your friends or try a smaller loan however by starting with such a high amount the chance now of gettng a smaller loan also decreased.If you ask for 2B now people will think 'Ah his 10B try failed he is going for a 2B scam now'.
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