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Cambarus Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.01.31 17:47:00 - [1] Originally by: Floydd Heywood It's given to the most effective fleet in the site. When you complete the site you see in your journal what LP you'll get once someone finishes the incursion. So you have to be the best fleet in the site, but not the best fleet in the whole incursion. That would suck This is not true. I had to test this the other day in a vanguard nation commander site. My fleet killed 20 rats, the other fleet killed 14, and we were also the ones who killed off the nation commander rat. Given that the only objective in that site is to make everything dead, and we were the better fleet at doing so, we should have got the payment. We did not. I'm told it might be that the BIGGEST fleet gets the payment, which would make sense given that there was 3 of us and like 10 of the other guys, but that would be a really, REALLY stupid way to decide payouts >_>
Cambarus Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.01.31 22:16:00 - [2] Originally by: mfw Originally by: Cambarus Originally by: Floydd Heywood It's given to the most effective fleet in the site. When you complete the site you see in your journal what LP you'll get once someone finishes the incursion. So you have to be the best fleet in the site, but not the best fleet in the whole incursion. That would suck This is not true. I had to test this the other day in a vanguard nation commander site. My fleet killed 20 rats, the other fleet killed 14, and we were also the ones who killed off the nation commander rat. Given that the only objective in that site is to make everything dead, and we were the better fleet at doing so, we should have got the payment. We did not. I'm told it might be that the BIGGEST fleet gets the payment, which would make sense given that there was 3 of us and like 10 of the other guys, but that would be a really, REALLY stupid way to decide payouts >_> Unless you know precisely what ship types were killed by whom and at what time, that is far from sufficient evidence to show that it doesn't go to the "best" fleet. Picture of the wrecks You'll notice that there are more white wrecks than yellow ones, and that the nation commander wreck is white. Both fleets warped in at the same time.
Cambarus Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.02.01 05:42:00 - [3] Originally by: Mara Rinn Originally by: Cambarus à I had to test this the other day in a vanguard nation commander à there was 3 of us and like 10 of the other guys Try this again, except enter the vanguard site with the minimum fleet size to guarantee a 100% reward ratio. We had 6 alts as well to insure full payout :)
Cambarus Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.02.01 17:45:00 - [4] Originally by: Floydd Heywood Were those 6 alts on grid and uncloaked? Otherwise they don't count. Maybe it's really the fleet that had optimal numbers (on grid), and only after that, if there are several with optimal numbers, the one which did most damage is preferred. Tbh so far we never had competition in our sites. We do Override Transfer Arrays which seem to be the hardest Vanguard site, maybe that's why. They were at the gate, which for payment purposes still counts (otherwise we wouldn't leave em there :P )
Cambarus Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.02.02 03:30:00 - [5] Originally by: UrsaeMajoris Originally by: Cambarus Originally by: Floydd Heywood Were those 6 alts on grid and uncloaked? Otherwise they don't count. Maybe it's really the fleet that had optimal numbers (on grid), and only after that, if there are several with optimal numbers, the one which did most damage is preferred. Tbh so far we never had competition in our sites. We do Override Transfer Arrays which seem to be the hardest Vanguard site, maybe that's why. They were at the gate, which for payment purposes still counts (otherwise we wouldn't leave em there :P ) Doesn't count actually. You must be fleeted and IN the mission site past the gate. You could hypothetically have a hundred people fleeted and waiting at the acceleration gate but they will NOT receive any rewards upon mission completion nor will they affect the payout for those inside the mission. I've got about a billion isk in my wallet that begs to differ. In the future don't go correcting people when you've not actually tested it.
Cambarus Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.02.02 09:07:00 - [6] Originally by: Floydd Heywood Ugh. If you're right this needs to be fixed. Pilots that are not in danger of being shot by the sanshas shouldn't get rewards Change it and we'd just make the alts use MSE merlins (frigs mitigate nearly all the damage dealt to them) and bring them into the site. It would also cripple leadership alts, which pretty much everyone uses for these.
Cambarus Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.02.02 14:42:00 - [7] We did assault sites with I think 4 logis and a leadership alt. TBH though you want to aim for 20 people in the fleet, otherwise you'd get much better isk/hour running vanguards

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