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Z0rak
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:43:00 -
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I was reading a thread on Eve-I about Jove's when it suddenly dawned on me, that every single jove oriented thread on the Eve-Online.com forum (or at least, the few that I have seen), has been ridiculed by various members, who have seen the apparantly laughable subject matter as a chance to make petty banter.
I for one find this spam to be an obstruction of the truth. Vandalism of potentially interesting debates, and a mockery of those who merely want some answers.
Well pardon me for wanting to know what the deal is, and excuse me your royal highness, if I tread the jovian dog**** on my shoe into your royal carpet. Frankly you can stick your arrogant inferiority complex, along with your denial-of-debate attacks, up your unwiped spotty prepubescant crybaby ass. I'm sick and tired, not to mention frustrated by the amount of utter rubbish I have to sift through just to get some kind of a clue as to what is really going on.
And no, I'm not really interested in your "jovians are a mystery and therefore all debates/discussions precluding to it must be stamped out in the most humiliating manner possible" babble. I want to know the score. So for the sake of me and everyone else who wants you to cut the and get to the chase, please answer the following goddamned questions, before I go insane and (attempt to) deliver my subscription fee to you in transatlantic scud missiles.
1. When will we be able to make jove characters?
2. When will jove items enter the game?
3. When will we get any real information on the planned items?
4. In fact, stuff the questions, just tell me everything you're willing to share. About Joves. 
To save myself some time, I'll add the following disclaimer:
If you respond to this thread with a witty remark, snide remark, negative remark, or anything else of the sort, then you're a sad, lifeless and pitiful individual, who probably could've done with a mother whilst growing up (which you still haven't finished doing by the looks of it you immature little ). I hope daddykins confiscates your keyboard.
And no I've not had my coffee this morning. And no I didn't sleep last night either.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Z0rak
1. When will we be able to make jove characters?
2. When will jove items enter the game?
3. When will we get any real information on the planned items?
4. In fact, stuff the questions, just tell me everything you're willing to share. About Joves.
To be honest, probably "never" to anything regarding the Joves 
1.) No one knows. Cept CCP and they're not telling.
2.) Some already are. Not turrets and such, but a few items like the Jove Ambassadors body parts. Besides, why do you care so much? Jove "stuff" won't be super duper items that just blow everything else away.
Other than that, who knows. I can't see CCP introducing the Joves as some uber advanced race with advanced ships and weapons cause that would just make all other races/ships/weapons useless. Everyone would be racing to own/fly Jove stuff so they can "pwn".
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:50:00 -
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So... you start off bu insulting people and then you want people to answer your questions? Doesn't make much sense 
Anyway, the only people who can answer question 1-3 are the devs, and I don't even think they have all the answers yet.
I'd answer 4, but I don't like it when people start off by flaming.
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Z0rak
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: Z0rak on 25/01/2005 10:00:04
Originally by: mahhy
Besides, why do you care so much? Jove "stuff" won't be super duper items that just blow everything else away.
I can't see CCP introducing the Joves as some uber advanced race with advanced ships and weapons cause that would just make all other races/ships/weapons useless. Everyone would be racing to own/fly Jove stuff so they can "pwn".
Who ever said anything about that?
I don't give a crap how good or bad they are, I just want one and I'd like to know if there is any point in wanting one or not. It's not exactly like it's gonna be hard to add them to the game - the devs have apparantly been cruising around in them for a while now, and as for characters, well just look at TomB.
Need I say more?
And if you don't like the flaming, tough luck. It's too early in the morning to care about what you think.
EDIT: Come to think of it, I think it would be rather interesting to play the game from the perspective of having really powerful stuff from the outset, but suffering from weaknesses which have never really been seen or even considered on the battlefield. Not pure ownage, just different advantages and disadvantages.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:58:00 -
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The Jove are supposed to be a mystery. *plays the X-Files theme* 
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Z0rak
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
The Jove are supposed to be a mystery. *plays the X-Files theme*
So in other words, you needn't have posted.
Great. 
Whatever happened to spoilers? I don't care about the nonexistant thrill of the so called mystery. There are no clues, there is no possibility of ever discovering anything about jovians. Where is the mystery in that? Where is the thrill of the pursuit of information? You CCP guys could at least give some point, purpose or meaning to your "mystery".
Or failing that just give us some spoilers.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Z0rak
So in other words, you needn't have posted.
So much hostility can't be good.
I agree that discussions about what Jove might be like and how it should work can be interesting and I would welcome that. But I also agree with some other posters that insulting everyone who doesn't say what you want them to say is the wrong way to make it happen.
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Z0rak
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Z0rak on 25/01/2005 10:15:52
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Z0rak
So in other words, you needn't have posted.
So much hostility can't be good.
I agree that discussions about what Jove might be like and how it should work can be interesting and I would welcome that. But I also agree with some other posters that insulting everyone who doesn't say what you want them to say is the wrong way to make it happen.
Well I'm disgruntled damnit!
I'm like that guy out of that movie who did that thing. And was disgruntled. Yeah.
What was the film called again? The Matress Reloaded? 
Being about as with-it as your gran is the new black, admit it!
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:19:00 -
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If you want information on the Joves, look in Heaven. They might have left some information or something behind, but I doubt it.
Also read the background stories. That'll most likely be more informative.
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Lagartija Nick
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:20:00 -
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The truth is out there.
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Z0rak
Vandalism of potentially interesting debates, and a mockery of those who merely want some answers.
And you think the tone of your first post is any better than the vandalism you mention here? In my experience, demanding something tends to annoy those who can give what you want to the extent that they refuse to share.
I highly doubt you will get any credible answers from this so I suggest you go chill out for a while and accept that some things are just meant to be kept secret till the time is right.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:27:00 -
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I know a Jove person. But sadly I cannot talk to him as my POD's translator computer dosen't understand his language. ... I assume that he was he .. or was it she.
Oh ****! Black cars just stopped outside my .. hangar! THEY ARE COMING TO GET ME!
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
Oh ****! Black cars just stopped outside my .. hangar! THEY ARE COMING TO GET ME!
MIB the movie had the sideeffect of effectively blocking most information regarding that from the search engines
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:43:00 -
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The only important thing we need to know about Jovians is this:
Do they like cake?
That is all.
Do the Jovians like cake?
Or did evolution make a mistake?
Did their seclusion so long
Somehow go wrong?
And they all forgot how to bake?
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Sister Immacolata
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Sister Immacolata on 25/01/2005 11:03:23
There is no Jove!
They're the Jive. Oveur has said so himself.
The truth is out there, but you can't catch it! It is like a wet bar of soap: Slippery and ever escaping your grasp, the indomitable foe you can never vanquish.
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Question2
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:11:00 -
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Ive seen the stats for a jovian enigma frigate.
The slots alone are simply insane.
To put it bluntly i highly doubt CCP will put in anyhting other than jovian frigs,actually any jovian ships at all other than the enigma,for a LONG time,as currently maximum number of high slots is 8,because theres totally no space for anymore in the fitting screen.Which is why dreads and titans are gonna take a long time,as im sure CCP doesnt want titans to have 8 turrets only.
Secondly,jovians are intended as the "GM" race.Its kinda clear.Uber technology,uber ships,uber weapons,uber anything.......they were never desigend to be player usable.If CCP makes them usable then they are going to have to re-write a significant chunk of background info about their technological superiority,which we all know they will NEVER do.
Let me put it this way...tomB already made amaar ships THE godlike in this game simply because he thinks they are superior to all other empire,non-jove,ships.If he gets his hands on making jovian player ships.......
Enigma tanking 3 gankegeddons anyone?
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Aldric Talvalin
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:16:00 -
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I have managed to get a negative standing towards the jovians .. how fun is that .. ;)
[ 2005.02.21 01:17:03 ] (combat) Your Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I perfectly strikes Caldari Navy Scorpion, wrecking for 765.0 damage.
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Arud
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:16:00 -
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I dont think anyone will ever be able to create a jove character, instead people with high enough skill points will be able to convert their normal character into a jovian.. through some event or some more agient crap
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Bsport
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:18:00 -
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from what i under stand and have read in very old news and interviews and previews, there was meant to be 5 playerable races from the begining , however ccp changed there minds for some reason and removed jove's form the start line
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:23:00 -
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Jovianus will probably be the next major expansion or it certainly gives CCP scope for it. Long way off mind since they got lots to do with Exodus yet.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:26:00 -
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I know the anser to all of your questions.
No, I'm not going to tell you.
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Kanonus
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:27:00 -
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I think jove more will be the empires common enemy. Like an uber-npc you need massive fleets and very skilled players to take on the slightest npc patrol.
Hopefully i smell jove invasion and some spicy storymissions here 
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/01/2005 11:29:30
repeat after me:
no....more....agent....or mission....based...only....content
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Estios
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:31:00 -
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They are just a race created so TomB and the rest of the Devs and Volunteers can feel special when they fly round in their Eidonlons etc.
Its basically a status thing as in 'look at me, my e-peen > yours '
Flying with them against Stain was great fun back in the days of Oracle Corp and I really expected the Jovian influx/storylines to expand (I kinda hoped that assisting them directly might have led to something exciting). Since then we've had a some body parts which also was a kinda cool event/story type thing and then pretty much nothing.
Now when the server is lagging real bad as usual one might turn up to watch. Watch = show off
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:32:00 -
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Jovians are Deus ex Machina.
Nothing more, nothing less.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:46:00 -
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My Advanced Forum Posting Mechanitron Automaton II is of Jovian origin.
My jokes are of Bernard Manning origin, however.
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Estios
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/01/2005 11:29:30
repeat after me:
no....more....agent....or mission....based...only....content
Amen to that !!
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Sister Immacolata
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Posted - 2005.01.25 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Estios
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/01/2005 11:29:30
repeat after me:
no....more....agent....or mission....based...only....content
Amen to that !!
I third that! CCP has manufactured some interesting lore, a great backdrop. Too bad they're handle putting it into active gameplay settings with almost complete failure. So much greatness imagined up, so little tangible content in game.
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2005.01.25 12:03:00 -
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Hmm...Well even if the max slot currently is 8, it's pretty easy to make Jovian ships more powerfull.
1-> add a second layer of fitting
2-> double fire rate of said items
Jovian are supposed to be tech V users...
So my hope is not to see them before a while. We are already in trouble to produce tech II items (and get BPOs, components...) so I cannot imagine what it will be when all 5 levels of technology are out
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.01.25 12:34:00 -
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BY JOVE!
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