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Melkath Bandrom
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.28 03:42:00 -
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Vengeance L4 Blood Raiders
Having a problem running this mission solo in a Rigor Raven. Last room, last spawn. I warp in and within 22 seconds (counted via stopwatch) my tank is blitzed and im into armor by 65% and have to warp out. I get full room aggro before I can even begin targeting anyone. It takes me 12 seconds to lock the heaviest hitter, I get 3 cruise off and just get into Faramons armor then I have to warp out. He's the heavy hitter. I don't even come close to running out of cap, its that quick I just cant seem to get passed this.
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[Raven] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Domination X-Large Shield Booster Heat Dissipation Field II
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Warrior II x7
Cant use t2 cruise missiles yet. My shield skills are mostly 4 and 5's so with a Domination X-L booster, I shouldn't have an issue. I can't fit a X-L booster II as not enough cpu.
Not enough CPU to run t2 cruise launchers either on this tub with current setup
This is my 1st ever L4 mission running solo. Is this mission supposed to be soloable? Been working on it for 6 hours, lost my bonus on it.
Anyone have any advise?
Thanks
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Trinkets friend
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Posted - 2011.01.28 03:46:00 -
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You should fit 2 x EM hardeners and 1 x thermal. The blood rats eat your kinetic tank. 4 ballistic controls are unneccessary, fit a power diagnostic system instead of the 4th. You also don't need a target painter for the cruise missiles vs. battleships, so fit a shield boost amplifier instead (cpu should be OK). Finally, go to eve-survival.org and read up on it.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2011.01.28 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Trinkets friend You should fit 2 x EM hardeners and 1 x thermal. The blood rats eat your kinetic tank. 4 ballistic controls are unneccessary, fit a power diagnostic system instead of the 4th. You also don't need a target painter for the cruise missiles vs. battleships, so fit a shield boost amplifier instead (cpu should be OK). Finally, go to eve-survival.org and read up on it.
the boss does a good bit of kinetic damage but yes em/therm should be more of the primary tank, and wtf is a random pdu going to add to the fit?
I forget the exact trigger sequence, but I remember most of the rats spawn far enough away that they won't even shoot you, so if you manually fly away (ab might help) from them it will take even longer for them to get into range, that way you should only have the initial spawn + boss shooting at you, the sentry guns do a good bit of damage too so I usually kill them first. eve-survival looks pretty outdated on this one.
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Trinkets friend
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Posted - 2011.01.28 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
wtf is a random pdu going to add to the fit?
More than 5DPS for a 4th BCU, my ignorant friend. Try: shields, shield recharge, cap, and cap recharge.
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Melkath Bandrom
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.28 05:25:00 -
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Yes that fixed it. Thanks Trinket. Much appreciated. It was touch and go. I think my 1st issue was that I goofed on the 3rd pocket. I drew the entire room in aggro and that put a hurt on me for sure. I got them taken down though.
Took me a total of 7 hours to figure this &^*&%*+&&^$& thing out but I got it done. By myself!. Hope all L4's aren't this bad.
I at least know how to do this one the next time it comes up though. Thanks again
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carbomb
Super Team Munkey
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Posted - 2011.01.28 13:31:00 -
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also a handy site for npc damages.... NPC Damage
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GyokZoli
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.28 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Melkath Bandrom Yes that fixed it. Thanks Trinket. Much appreciated. It was touch and go. I think my 1st issue was that I goofed on the 3rd pocket. I drew the entire room in aggro and that put a hurt on me for sure. I got them taken down though.
Took me a total of 7 hours to figure this &^*&%*+&&^$& thing out but I got it done. By myself!. Hope all L4's aren't this bad.
I at least know how to do this one the next time it comes up though. Thanks again
Always use the right hardeners against the rats you are facing. You need em/therm against sansha and blood.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2011.01.28 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Trinkets friend
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
wtf is a random pdu going to add to the fit?
More than 5DPS for a 4th BCU, my ignorant friend. Try: shields, shield recharge, cap, and cap recharge.
if by 5 dps you mean 5.85% dps well then (6.57% on a set of faction bcus), yes a pdu does add all that, but is out of synergy with the rest of the fit and adds such a small amount to each it isn't really worth fitting.
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2011.01.28 20:18:00 -
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The hardener choice for this made me lol hard.
Try 2 photons and 1 heat next time.
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Doddy
Burning Vendetta
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Posted - 2011.01.29 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: carbomb also a handy site for npc damages.... NPC Damage
Well that doesn't really help as it ignores all the sansha bs that lob kinetic torps at you, including the boss of the mission in question. I don't really understand why they would weight the turret dps and completely ignore the missile dps. Last time i checked dark lords, overlords, plague lords, savage lords, tyrants (and their faction equivelents) all used kinetic missiles. Of course maybe this changed and i have been covering kin needlessly for months ...
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2011.01.29 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Wet Ferret on 29/01/2011 02:55:01
Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: carbomb also a handy site for npc damages.... NPC Damage
Well that doesn't really help as it ignores all the sansha bs that lob kinetic torps at you, including the boss of the mission in question. I don't really understand why they would weight the turret dps and completely ignore the missile dps. Last time i checked dark lords, overlords, plague lords, savage lords, tyrants (and their faction equivelents) all used kinetic missiles. Of course maybe this changed and i have been covering kin needlessly for months ...
Yeah, you're doing it wrong. Almost all rats use their racial damage type for missiles. Some exceptions are the Vengeance bosses (and only the bosses, everything else in Vengeance does the expected damage type) and Zor who flies a Raven but does thermal.
Oh yeah, about my sig... you have now read it.
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