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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 236	Posted - 2012.08.19 21:25:00 - [1] - Quote Ashera Yune wrote: Now all minmatar has to do is take over every single system and then after that, No more offensive plexes to farm. A final blow and a destruction to Fwarmville. Confirming plexing is the best way to make ISK from FW.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 237	Posted - 2012.08.20 13:00:00 - [2] - Quote Mardrus wrote: PLEXing There is a special place in hell for the first person who capitalised the 'plex' in 'plexing. I just feel sorry for the Amarr and FATE pilots that actually type coherent and rational arguments only to have a post from Maud, DCM, Bad Messenger etc. next to it. Makes it harder to be objective from an opposing side when you have to put up with that. Anyway, we knew from before the patch when we made our land grab that this could mean reduced enemies to shoot if we did crush Amarr and many people were very clear from the start that we should be careful if we wanted to keep any WTs to fight. However many people were already disappointed with the amount of PVP we were getting from Amarr compared to how much we were getting just from random neutrals. Anyway a month or two before patch day and it became clear quite how rich we could be, coupled with the very small resistance we were experiencing on TQ it seemed inevitable that Amarr morale was going rapidly downhill. There were a few blips when it spiked up again and we might have a real fight on our hands (the pre-emptive Kamela attack + SOTF response and the Nulli incident) but generally its continued downwards since then. I'm not saying "we don't care" because FATE have given us good fights, but you try and project an aura of nonchalance towards FW all you are getting is a reflection of that back at you. We need you to care about FW for us to care about you. The WBR we fought a year ago that was dominating us, now I wouldn't have traded T5 for that, but we are talking about an entity that seems more interested in SCs and toying with Null than a good old cruiser/BC/BS brawl of old. (Which, BTW is fine you play Eve how you want, just don't lump all the blame on us) All I'm saying is it isn't entirely our fault we have lost some WTs, when most of your ops are 3 bridges away in some far off null you can see why we might chose to give that up.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 238	Posted - 2012.08.20 13:51:00 - [3] - Quote FIRST GENERAL wrote: Generally we are and were nonchalent as you put it very well towards FW, how could we be anything else considering how broken the mechanics were and still are. (I'm presuming we agree that FW mechanics are still broken, regardless of the undeniable truth that Inferno brought a lot of activity back into the area). Yes the mechanics are a disaster, while the millions of plexing alts do help us in the sov war, its of course not something I would have chosen, they are probably almost as much of a pain to us as you. I hope soon(TM) CCP will realise the disaster that as Inferno and give us a sensible FW system back All my post was trying to say was through all of this we have lost some (real) targets to shoot, but I don't think that is entirely down to our poor WT managing (which was a consideration). In simplest terms from my point of view: it wasn't worth trying to keep a place for you in FW (READ - through letting up on the boring stuff and working to keep it fun, NOT - OMG we can could kick you out whenever we want with our L33t PvP) when FW seemed to be a secondary concern for you at the time. Why go to the effort when it wasn't yielding the GFs for us at the time. Of course I'm sure Kourmonen the other night reminds us why we joined FW and why we would be sad to lose you, which is oddly nothing to do with FW and if CCP are to be believed the opposite of what they want from it (e.g. no caps). Of course I hope fights like that will continue to happen regardless of who is in FW. I am gutted to have missed it. Inferno should have focused on fights like that rather than rifters.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 238	Posted - 2012.08.20 14:53:00 - [4] - Quote Lord BryanII wrote: If Minimatar did not have their geography advantage and did not get that super boost that they did from the goons, would it be fair to say that the Amarr/Minimatar war would be much closer than it is now? If the answer is yes, then would we still be talking about farmers as much as we are now? I don't think farmers are the issue tbh Goonswarm did nothing, they probably never even captured a single plex, all they did was exploit a load of LP for themselves, which probably hurt the minmatar as it meant our LP items were less valuable.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 238	Posted - 2012.08.20 15:24:00 - [5] - Quote Lord BryanII wrote: over and over 7/10 because you got me good. This bit was just too obvious, up until this point it was believably stupid, but obvious troll.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 239	Posted - 2012.08.20 16:01:00 - [6] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: Minmatar would have happily and easily upgraded those systems on a whim had they wanted to. and more to the point we have, about 5 times since without any goon help.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 241	Posted - 2012.08.24 10:25:00 - [7] - Quote jjohnpaul xvii wrote: WTS > 'Novelty' Daniel Carter Murray, Kuehnalt and Sync Vir toons Training: - Delicious tears without input/comedy/relevance to forum posts Specialist Level 5. - Repetition Level 4. - Advanced Butthurt Level 7. - Tin Haterry Level 5. - In dire need of intelligence/charisma remap. WTB > Agony. Offering 100 SFIs (know how much amarr love them) for DCM, I assume i make the payment to MasterNerdGuy?
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 245	Posted - 2012.08.31 18:15:00 - [8] - Quote Muad 'dib wrote: dare i say reset? cus if there isnt one, its going to be an even slower version of inferno domination all over again. sigh. Haha its not like you ever had t4 or anything, reset whine best whine.

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