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RTSAvalanche The Imperial Fedaykin 6	Posted - 2012.08.19 16:31:00 - [1] - Quote Vordak Kallager wrote: Maybe Muad is really a secret Minmatar plant designed to make the Amarr look and sound like pissy tweens. We all agree the mechanics are borked; get over yourself. come over to Amarr Militia and see how it is, then i'll let you talk smack. Cause it's easy not to care when the problem ain't yours! x_x'
RTSAvalanche The Imperial Fedaykin 7	Posted - 2012.08.19 19:25:00 - [2] - Quote Vyktor Abyss wrote: Not like I had respect for you anyway, but the theatrical forum foot stomping and waving arms round while bawling makes me respect you even less. Grow up, FW is better than it was before the latest iteration (but still needs work) and you're just a tantrum throwing child because you cant sit on Auga station all day playing low risk instapop docking games anymore. People like you make FW worse not better so please do leave and don't flatter yourself that your opinion of FW matters. There are many others I could name also falling into this category, but at least they're not starting crap threads everywhere unlike you. Cheers. Oh ofcause you are completely correct, I see the error of our ways. Let us all join minmatar & see who can be the riches, who cares about pvp anyway right!!!?? =D But I am curious... you mention it still needs work? Can you please be more percific?
RTSAvalanche The Imperial Fedaykin 8	Posted - 2012.08.20 04:14:00 - [3] - Quote Ninlarra wrote: Muad 'dib wrote: amarr are now desperately low on pvpers and alts for farming are leaving us too. No docking in systems not owned by your 'team', the isk fountains attracting alts galore to the 'winning' side have finally gripped so tight fw is now almost all about the isk, pvp is dead. grats ccp, we all told you this would happen, i hope you are happy to ruin what was fun for a few thousand players, into incursion style isk farming blobs for a few thousand more. I hope your sov test worked ccp, because it came at a cost of totally stabbing fw fun in the face. yes im still unhappy, no you still cant have my stuff and yes thats still because i cant get access to it. QQ, sincerely muad pissy dib. sigh I'm going to make this as focused and logical as possible. I know no matter what I type here you are going to cry like a *** like you usually do but I firmly believe that at the end of the day common sense and logic prevails over the whines. CCP killed amarr/minnie fun you say? I present the following link: http://minmatar.eve-kill.net/?a=home&m=4&y=2012 Thats the month of april 2012 a total of 5373 ships killed and lost Inferno and the FW changes went into effect May 24th. The following link is the same killboard for the month of July (I didnt use the june KB as it is seriously skewed due to the goontard exploitation and therefore would not make an accurate arguement): http://minmatar.eve-kill.net/?a=home&m=7&y=2012 Month of July for a total of 15090. Thats over a 290% increase in pvp activity. We pvp damn near 300% MORE now than before the patch. What the are you talking about? Oh I know what you are talking about. Your corp is **, anyone who was remotely good left, your booster alt got shat on and podded, you live in pos in auga like a space hillbilly living in a trailer, and your militia that smack so hard half the corps left in the last week. HTFU or leave. You skipped over one of the major points which is how does the loosing side keep fighting when their isk dries up? Minmatar are sololy after protecting their valued systems, which is understandable - but an often side effect is having literaly an enire fleet (most notebly Stabber fleets, blackbirds) to fight one or two people, in simple - alot of minmatar militia are not interested in pvp, but are just interested in protecting their systems
RTSAvalanche The Imperial Fedaykin 8	Posted - 2012.08.20 17:26:00 - [4] - Quote Cearain wrote: Vordak Kallager wrote: [quote=Lord BryanII]If Minimatar did not have their geography advantage and did not get that super boost that they did from the goons, would it be fair to say that the Amarr/Minimatar war would be much closer than it is now? If the answer is yes, then would we still be talking about farmers as much as we are now? I don't think farmers are the issue tbh Once everyone saw Minmatar could hit tier 5 well everyone started getting alts to run the plexes. The sheer volume of alts is not something amarr can touch. Let's not forget about a certain alliance that made sure tier5 would happen for minmatar. One of the important factors of push starting the minmatar-money-train
RTSAvalanche The Imperial Fedaykin 8	Posted - 2012.08.20 18:37:00 - [5] - Quote Vordak Kallager wrote: RTSAvalanche wrote: Cearain wrote: Vordak Kallager wrote: [quote=Lord BryanII]If Minimatar did not have their geography advantage and did not get that super boost that they did from the goons, would it be fair to say that the Amarr/Minimatar war would be much closer than it is now? If the answer is yes, then would we still be talking about farmers as much as we are now? I don't think farmers are the issue tbh Once everyone saw Minmatar could hit tier 5 well everyone started getting alts to run the plexes. The sheer volume of alts is not something amarr can touch. Let's not forget about a certain alliance that made sure tier5 would happen for minmatar. One of the important factors of push starting the minmatar-money-train You really still think the Goonies did anything for us? You really still think the Nulli's did anything for us?
RTSAvalanche The Imperial Fedaykin 8	Posted - 2012.08.20 18:42:00 - [6] - Quote Vordak Kallager wrote: RTSAvalanche wrote: You really still think the Nulli's did anything for us? They got you to T4, m8. WE did the work, making systems vunerable all over the place, long before they showed up - infact they forced our hand into doing before we wanted, so no... tier4 for about an hour & most of the people I know in amarr militia were not logged on to enjoy the brief moments of it
RTSAvalanche The Imperial Fedaykin 9	Posted - 2012.08.21 15:58:00 - [7] - Quote Let's make this simple The loosing side at tier 1 will pay 1 Million LP for a single battle ship - where as the winning side at Tier5 can cash out on that ships equal for 62,500 LP. The loosing side doesn't have the resources to get a foothold & to esculate the problem to take a system that you can not dock in, the enemy will always have the advange - being able to reship quickly for different plexes is very important. Please note I'm leaving out all forms of stats like timezons, online militia, active corps & other such (possible) factors. These were two of the big changes with inferno that need to be looked at. Winners deserve to have the perks, PVE should not be the way to win the war, getting LP to shoot wartargets is a great idea - The loosing side needs a way to fight back! PS - I personaly Joined FW (over nullsec because) - I can dock in every station! (Important for those of us with busier life styles... or quite bloated? =p) - No bubbles (A mechanic when used on subcaps on gates makes traveling around systems a dice roll, much like ecm in a game where everything else requires a large amount of skill.. well generaly) - No Diplomat / Sov (It purely was about the PVP, that's all we ever wanted - Back to basics is what CCP said recently, well take us back to the PVP - I get no enjoyment of chasing out T1 frigs orbitin buttons) -Small Gang warfare (yes i'm well aware this happens in nullsec too, but it was well renounded in FW as being one of the hot spots to particapte in it, but with alliances able to join & everyone so concerned about "protecting the isk" rather than wanting a GF.. you tell me where that leave small gangs?) anyways that's some personal thoughts of mine, this was quite rushed as I am actualy cooking right now, so if this post should get a reply I hope i can respond better to that in the near future! =]
RTSAvalanche The Imperial Fedaykin 10	Posted - 2012.08.21 16:48:00 - [8] - Quote Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote: Actually, you know what the worst element of the new system is? Once we flip the last system we won't have any offensive plexes to farm LP from. This is horribly broken and needs fixing ASAP. It's be nice to know that once we flip the last system our defensive efforts will be rewarded... meh, you guys can go back to missions in SB's ...with Tier5

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