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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.09.26 09:03:00 -
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That is the question.
I've been wondering about why players seem to be so keen on podding other players after the ship has been destroyed.
My thought process is this.
First of all podding seems to give a massive security hit. Apart from bragging rights this doesn't offer anythign positive and, besies, a pilot with a large negative rating from destroying hundreds of ships and not podding is t be more feared than one who has destroyd fewer ships but tries to destroys the opponent's capsule.
If it were for loott and the pilot is in a better ship then it would make more sense to allow the defeated pilot to return quicker than waitig for him to crawl out the clone vats which could be a lot further away than the replacement ship. Besides, if one pods another player then he's less likely to want to return for another swing and, as a pirate, one would wish to have one's targets to return time and time again.
the only time when I can see podding as a valid strategem is when one is trying to clear out an area of New Eden but for the most part this in't going to be the situation.
So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game? |

KittyCatCanCan
Spunk Ltd.
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:10:00 -
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i think it's comparable with "[..] AND STAY DOWN" - either that, or just to make the other player lose more ISK (if implants are inserted, even more)
to podkill is just a way to disrupt an "enemy"s path... if he's travelling from A to B, and you kill him, he'll reset his path to where ever his clone were... |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:19:00 -
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Thanks, I do realise that it's going to cost the other player more ISK.
But unless I wanting the other player to leave an area where I am then I would rather him lose ISK to me in the form of loot rather than to someone else selling implants.
As for 'Stay Down'. I wouldn't want him to. I would rather he go and sut himself down, get another ship and lose that to me again.
This is really my point; do I want to make it personal? I don't think that I do as this would be of no advantage to me.
Look at this from the point of view of a playground bully. Do I want that little brat in the first form to give me his dinner money each week or do I want to give him a hell of a thrashng and humiliate him so much that he gives it me to once and he changes schools?
A good point made by the Pilot's Path. that's worth considering. |

KittyCatCanCan
Spunk Ltd.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:24:00 -
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it's an interesting subject nonetheless...
I actually never thought about why players pod kill, and I honestly can't see why (except for the reason I posted earlier)...
i guess it's normal in fleet battle to keep players from returning instantly in a ship fitted to counter whatever you have... |

Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:35:00 -
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Just do it 
In low-sec everyone and their dog has implants so the sec hit is usually worth the isk hit to the other player. Flashy red gatecampers in particular tend to have several hundred million isk in implants on even their cheapest clone.
In null there's no sec hit so why not?
You can justify it whatever way you want but a pod is no different to a ship IMHO.
Edit - what the OP is failing with is that he/she is attempting to bring their own morality into Eve. I do understand and once upon a time I did the same (I still don't scam/steal) but its basically a very stupid thing to do. There is no death in Eve - same as the FPS you mock - so morality over "killing" somone is asinine to say the very least. |

March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
2
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:35:00 -
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from my (passive player) point of few: podding someone is nothing but e-peen ("tears extraction") in most cases. Because killer get's nothing from killed pod and victim looses ISKies and implants. This is inline of suicide miners ganking or afk-cloaking or a lot of other things we have here.
Well if i get fight and win it i would rather leave pod alone in space, say "get out" in local and dock/return to my usual tasks. This is because: 1) pod is not a very good ship for traveling for long distances in 0.0 (where i live) so this guy will spend time to return home or he should self-destruct (and wait for 2 minutes) 2) killing pod is a final shot. So if you don't do it you show that your enemy simply doesn't worth it  |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:36:00 -
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Now if one is doing PvP for a source of income having a mark change school isn't going to be any use whatsoever.
A valid point about fleet battles. The only times I've been in a fleet was a less than well organised roam into Low-Sec with no real aims and goals and a few weeks in RvB which, if nothing else, showd me how not to run a fleet.
I've got bored with High-Sec and I am thinking of moving my focus down in Low-Sec or 0.0. But, it's case of working out a strategy. At the moment, I can't work out the advantages of someone running solo, either pirating or fighting pirates, and destroying pods. |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:40:00 -
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Thanks March. I think that you're more or less confirming what I think.
I will just have to make sure that if I get zapped in 0.0 then it's by you. |

Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:46:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:Thanks March. I think that you're more or less confirming what I think.
I will just have to make sure that if I get zapped in 0.0 then it's by you.
I think you'll find he's very much in the (tiny) minority in sov null.
A pod instawarps so you're going to have to pop bubbles/smartbomb to get it - popping a bubble on gate is ALWAYS risky as you're going to take 1 min aggro timer. Smartbombs likewise.
By NOT killing the pod in sov null when you have the chance you force people in your corp/alliance to take chances to kill the pod (who is likely getting/passing intel all the time). If they subsequently get baited and popped doing that then its YOUR fault.
Hell I've seen people lose their ship, get out with pod and STILL be FCing the fleet in a pod an hour later.
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KittyCatCanCan
Spunk Ltd.
1
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:51:00 -
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a lot of people apply their RL moralities to eve... this is not right imo, this is a game - there is no real penalty to be a huge ****...
i tend to not play with my RL friends in eve for the sole reason that my moralities change a LOT when i'm playing eve... in RL i have to walk around with a smile, and be a somewhat nice guy... in eve, i can be as big a **** as i want... if i've had a bad day at work/school and just want to murder everyone. I wait until i get home and then - i can go into a blood fury ;)
EVE is a place to be who you cannot (or are gonna have problems to) be in real life.. so if you feel like pod killing, just go for it - nobody's stopping you... |

March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
2
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Posted - 2011.09.26 11:00:00 -
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KittyCatCanCan wrote:a lot of people apply their RL moralities to eve... this is not right imo, this is a game - there is no real penalty to be a huge ****...
i tend to not play with my RL friends in eve for the sole reason that my moralities change a LOT when i'm playing eve... in RL i have to walk around with a smile, and be a somewhat nice guy... in eve, i can be as big a **** as i want... if i've had a bad day at work/school and just want to murder everyone. I wait until i get home and then - i can go into a blood fury ;)
EVE is a place to be who you cannot (or are gonna have problems to) be in real life.. so if you feel like pod killing, just go for it - nobody's stopping you... i don't agree. Smart guy in RL can be total badass and rob/scam/kill many people without any consequences. There is a lot of examples from history. There is only one real brake to each person: his own soul. You decide for yourself who you are.
The same is for the game. You are your own judge. And game rules don't matter. |

KittyCatCanCan
Spunk Ltd.
1
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Posted - 2011.09.26 11:27:00 -
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quick note, there are always consequences... and in real life, you can get caught (which i did)... it's hard to get any real penalty in EVE, except if you're breaking any of the primary rules of eve, set by CCP... and it really is not hard to follow that... |

Disastro
Wrecking Shots BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.26 11:38:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:That is the question.
I've been wondering about why players seem to be so keen on podding other players after the ship has been destroyed.
My thought process is this.
First of all podding seems to give a massive security hit. Apart from bragging rights this doesn't offer anythign positive and, besies, a pilot with a large negative rating from destroying hundreds of ships and not podding is t be more feared than one who has destroyd fewer ships but tries to destroys the opponent's capsule.
If it were for loott and the pilot is in a better ship then it would make more sense to allow the defeated pilot to return quicker than waitig for him to crawl out the clone vats which could be a lot further away than the replacement ship. Besides, if one pods another player then he's less likely to want to return for another swing and, as a pirate, one would wish to have one's targets to return time and time again.
the only time when I can see podding as a valid strategem is when one is trying to clear out an area of New Eden but for the most part this in't going to be the situation.
So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game?
Generally if i am in low sec and i catch a pod I am going to try to ransom it. If he wont pay then he pays the price another way. In null sec its a different story.
If I catch a pod during a major fleet flight I may kill it but I am going to shoot his friends in existing ships before I worry about it. Generally the FCs in large fleet fights wont want you to kill pods right away because the enemy can go back to their home station and pick up a new ship and be right back in the fight again. It is better to let them take the slow boat home or self destruct while killing his friends still on the field.
If it is just a small skirmish or a gank I am going to kill the pod. Why wouldnt I? PVP in eve is cruel and harsh and the results of getting caught ratting or traveling unscouted through gates is also just as harsh. People who PVP in EVE look at their kill boards as keeping score. Pod kills may not show up on most of the kill boards but they are counted towards total kill on eve kill and other kill boards. And even in null sec people generally have some kind of implants in. They may not be all flying around in +5s but many are going to lose some money from the loss of the pod. |

Taurean Eltanin
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.26 11:57:00 -
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From a pirate's perspective, a pod is income. People are far more willing to pay a ransom for pods than their are (most) ships. Of course, if you don't pay I need to pod you to show you I that mean business; I may catch your pod in the future and you certainly aren't going to pay a ransom if I just let you go last time! [url]http://flight-of-dragons.blogspot.com/[/url] |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
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Posted - 2011.09.26 11:59:00 -
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1. Killmails 2 .... Uh...
There is no other reason players podkill. |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.09.26 12:03:00 -
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Thanks everyone for your contributions in making this an interesting thread. There is plenty to consider here. |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.26 12:15:00 -
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Corpses for my corpse container \o/ Soon my tea party will be upgraded to a full on banquet of corpses all dressed up prim and proper like lords and ladies :D |

Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.09.26 12:21:00 -
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Taurean Eltanin wrote:From a pirate's perspective, a pod is income. People are far more willing to pay a ransom for pods than their are (most) ships. Of course, if you don't pay I need to pod you to show you I that mean business; I may catch your pod in the future and you certainly aren't going to pay a ransom if I just let you go last time!
Unlike years gone by though (and Incarna excepted) the only pods you catch in low-sec are newbies (to PvP) and drunk/stoned people. One can't pay and the other doesn't care until the morning 
Low-sec badly needs a plan from CCP. Only problem is I think they're so out of touch that they might make matters worse (again). |

Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
5
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Posted - 2011.09.26 12:57:00 -
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I will pod someone under the following conditions:
Has delicious delicious bounty on him. Refuses to pay ransom Has support inbound or we fought in crazy busy system.
I won't pod if:
I can extract a ransom They offer to pay me Someone interfere's
Also - I want MOAR security status hit :P |

Juturnaa
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.26 13:29:00 -
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Having been podded on a previous character I was not really inconvenienced. Just slightly annoyed really! I don't agree with podding for the most part but at the same time it adds an element of fragility missing at times. If you die, you jump in a clone, you get a new ship etc etc. It was different to be trying to escape in my pod, even more so then when trying to shuttle about without getting hammered every which way. My two cents basically! |

Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.09.26 13:32:00 -
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Zoe Alarhun wrote:I will pod someone under the following conditions:
Has delicious delicious bounty on him. Refuses to pay ransom Has support inbound or we fought in crazy busy system.
I won't pod if:
I can extract a ransom They offer to pay me Someone interfere's
Also - I want MOAR security status hit :P
What if the FC says
"Get the pod for me please"
which is normal  |

Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
5
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Posted - 2011.09.26 15:05:00 -
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heh - It's been so long since I've flown with a fleet + FC that I forgot about that!
Suer if the FC says get the pod then I will om nom nom :P |

Malken
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Posted - 2011.09.26 15:11:00 -
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if you dont pod them they will warp around between safespots and smacktalk for hours.
just pod and get them the **** out of local.
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Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.26 16:24:00 -
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Good day, Myfanwy Heimdal:
Point pod, convo pilot, give pilot 30 seconds to pay a reasonable ransom. If they pay, let them go; if not, blow them up.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ * http://evepiratelife.com/ |

Cable Udan
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.26 17:47:00 -
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I pod people as and when I can but generally go for the ransom first.
Negative sec status hits don't bother me at all. I'm -9.8 at the moment and I <3 being flashy red as I'm a pirate through and through.
If I manage to snag someones pod I'll ask for a ransom. If the victim in question pays up then I let him go but more oft than not I either get a flurry of abuse (which makes me lol irl), ignored or the pilot isn't bothered about getting podded, in which case my guns spin up again.
Most of the time I feel that not podding someone (except where no ransom can be extracted) is leaving the job unfinished and boy, do I hate leaving jobs half done. http://chasingtheblueflash.blogspot.com/ -á - My Pirate Blog |

Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.09.26 18:44:00 -
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Mara Abraham wrote:Good day, Myfanwy Heimdal:
Point pod, convo pilot, give pilot 30 seconds to pay a reasonable ransom. If they pay, let them go; if not, blow them up.
Thank you.
Bloody hell - "Drifting for Jesus" is now in the Tuskers?
/me boggles
Best of luck to you Mara, you just don't strike me as a Tusker :) |

Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.09.26 18:50:00 -
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Zoe Alarhun wrote:heh - It's been so long since I've flown with a fleet + FC that I forgot about that!
Suer if the FC says get the pod then I will om nom nom :P
I'm much the same in terms of fleets. Unless I'm going to be stuck on a gate I will just kill the pod though. The amusing part about this thread is that "PvP" players accept all of this as normal and the pod is (in null anyway) a mionr part of the kill.
For most people not up to speed with PvP then the loss of the ship will be a harder loss than the pod.
Just do it  |

Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
6
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:31:00 -
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I'd prefer to extract some delicious isk from them first before releasing them back into the wilds :P I spend all my time in low-sec so it's been a while since I've been in null 
If you catch all the fish today you won't have any tomorrow - and a pirate needs bling for new ships  |

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army
123
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:52:00 -
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I tend to pod people because I can. 
Unless they pay the ransom of course.
But thats like asking "Why do you run through enemy fire to assassinate the guy you just downed in Gears of War?" ... The answer is because its hilarious and entertaining. Heretic Army CEO Host of Frigfry Fridays
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Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:54:00 -
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Othran wrote:[Bloody hell - "Drifting for Jesus" is now in the Tuskers?
/me boggles
Best of luck to you Mara, you just don't strike me as a Tusker :)
See http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=home for proof ;-)
Fly well.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ * http://evepiratelife.com/ |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
86
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Posted - 2011.09.26 22:04:00 -
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It only costs sec status when ganking in high and low. I see no reason to pop a pod in those situations, other than lulz.
At war, it's a useful tool to disperse a fleet and cost them assets.
In null it delays their response and allows your fleet to reposition or move out while they are out of contact with you. |

Faith Sunstrider
Manufact Co.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 00:54:00 -
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quick question: podding someone that is red near a low sec gate triggers the sentry guns? |

Johan Marberg
Gradient Electus Matari
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 01:15:00 -
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Mostly I avoid pod killing people as the sec hits can be pretty dire and I still want to be able to access highsec. The exceptions being if they're some one I really dislike, or outlaws or war targets (cos outlaw/WT pods have no calories). And sometimes I'll pod people if they'te too slow to get out as an object lesson in the importance of having a good bailout drill.
Fast lockers will get pods in losec if the person being tipped out of their ship is not quick off the mark. |

Mousserande
Scarecrows of Pompous Intentions
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 01:31:00 -
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To fill up my corpse container . You guys know there is somewhat of a market for corpses right? If you podded Chribba or some other eve-famous pilot you-¦d surely get a few millions for the corpse. It-¦s a sick game alright.. |

Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
3
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Posted - 2011.09.27 01:51:00 -
[35] - Quote
As long as the pod is at war or -5 - always pod.
Podding outside that i s risk vs. percieved reward |

Jack Olev
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
3
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Posted - 2011.09.27 02:16:00 -
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Hey Op,
This is a game. People pod other people because they feel like it. Let them play how they want to. |

Jack Olev
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
3
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Posted - 2011.09.27 02:21:00 -
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Oh and is this why you posted in the forums?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13579354
Lost your first pod huh?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13579355 |

Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
9
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Posted - 2011.09.27 06:26:00 -
[38] - Quote
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:That is the question.
I've been wondering about why players seem to be so keen on podding other players after the ship has been destroyed.
My thought process is this.
First of all podding seems to give a massive security hit. Apart from bragging rights this doesn't offer anythign positive and, besies, a pilot with a large negative rating from destroying hundreds of ships and not podding is t be more feared than one who has destroyd fewer ships but tries to destroys the opponent's capsule.
If it were for loott and the pilot is in a better ship then it would make more sense to allow the defeated pilot to return quicker than waitig for him to crawl out the clone vats which could be a lot further away than the replacement ship. Besides, if one pods another player then he's less likely to want to return for another swing and, as a pirate, one would wish to have one's targets to return time and time again.
the only time when I can see podding as a valid strategem is when one is trying to clear out an area of New Eden but for the most part this in't going to be the situation.
So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game?
There are no security hits in Null. If you're really that concerned about your security rating maybe you should actually go somewhere that the law isn't sitting 30k off you to do so.
As for prodding it comes with the game. If you're worry bout your pod. Give up a ransom in local to let them know. Some pirates and ransomers will keep their words. Some won't, but seriously don't ***** about hi-sec PvP mechanics such as this..
They are working as intended |

Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
53
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Posted - 2011.09.27 17:45:00 -
[39] - Quote
Once you learn to spam warp Low sec podding mechanics are a good test of your computer hardware and internet connection.
If you have a good computer and connection you can roll with expensive implants and be elite. If not you can't.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
2
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Posted - 2011.09.27 17:59:00 -
[40] - Quote
Of course I lost my first pod. I would expect that most people have lost their first pod. In fact, to have been podded even once would mean that one would have lost their first pod.
But that is of no consequence and your comment really doesn't make much difference if I have been podded once or a thousand times and, currently being a miner, it's not too likely I would have had much chance to pop someone's capsule.
So my question was a simple and straight forward one asking what advantages lay in podding as a part of the game (and, yes, thank you - I was aware that this is a game).
Anyway, thanks again everyone for your comments. It's interesting to see the range of replies from 'always do' to 'I do but only if...' and the well explained reasoning. |

grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.09.27 22:00:00 -
[41] - Quote
Othran wrote:Mara Abraham wrote:Good day, Myfanwy Heimdal:
Point pod, convo pilot, give pilot 30 seconds to pay a reasonable ransom. If they pay, let them go; if not, blow them up.
Thank you.
Bloody hell - "Drifting for Jesus" is now in the Tuskers? /me boggles Best of luck to you Mara, you just don't strike me as a Tusker :)
This ^^^ Mara is so polite she probably asks them please to pay.. and apologizes for the podding 
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
0
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Posted - 2011.09.28 01:46:00 -
[42] - Quote
In general, I let the pod go in 0.1+ space.
I do, however, need to keep my security-status reasonable, and it doesn't take too many pod-kills--podding in 0.4 especially, is a huge security-hit--to go blinky-blinky. Up to you, but I've found blinky-ness to be just a tedious pain in the arse.
Exceptions:
1) If it's someone I really detest, or if they've podded me before--fair's fair, after all  2) If they're being smack-talking, rude 'tards--it's a very explicit way of saying, "STFU already, basement-dweller!" 3) If I've offered a ransom on the pod that was subsequently refused 4) If they're a legal war-target or outlaw, podding of whom carries no penalties.
In zerosec, if I can get the pod I will, as it's a potential scout/intel-source, and in wormhole-space, I definitely will make all efforts to get the pod, as you don't want strangers in your wormhole any longer than is absolutely unavoidable, and moreover, you don't want them coming back too soon, either. |

Potato IQ
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2011.09.28 07:52:00 -
[43] - Quote
Stopping a return to fight due to travel time, or at least severely hindering, if they havenGÇÖt been smart with their clone positioning is a tactical advantage that you cannot ignore
It can also serve as a reminder of the cost of silly HS war games or an attempt to come play in our backyard uninvited
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Taurean Eltanin
The Tuskers
4
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Posted - 2011.09.28 10:10:00 -
[44] - Quote
grumpyguts1 wrote:Othran wrote:Mara Abraham wrote:Good day, Myfanwy Heimdal:
Point pod, convo pilot, give pilot 30 seconds to pay a reasonable ransom. If they pay, let them go; if not, blow them up.
Thank you.
Bloody hell - "Drifting for Jesus" is now in the Tuskers? /me boggles Best of luck to you Mara, you just don't strike me as a Tusker :) This ^^^ Mara is so polite she probably asks them please to pay.. and apologizes for the podding 
Actually, we're a pretty polite corp. I generally always start my ransom requests with a complement about the fight.
And Mara seems to have settled into the corp magnificently. http://flight-of-dragons.blogspot.com/ |

Nurse Elise
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.28 10:49:00 -
[45] - Quote
I will pod if someone has a POS in my WH or has been a ****** in local. I wont pod after a good heavy fight or someone pays the ransom. . Sometimes its just fun to scram a pod ....wait a while and warp off. It shows strength.... |

Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
13
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Posted - 2011.09.28 15:56:00 -
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Good day:
The Tuskers are a very family oriented, low security space, pvp combat corporation.
I've yet to meet a Tusker (even prior to joining them) that was not polite. It was their professionalism, extremely ingenious pilot skills, reputation, and being polite that lead me to joining them.
Back to podding... while I was not in the gang (dinner time), last night a Tusker gang made over 350 million isk in ransoms from ship as well as pod captures; and the customers were let go once they paid.
While the spreadsheet is not yet updated completely, not including a few ransoms, 11,686,916,260.81 ISK paid in ransoms to The Tuskers members.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ * http://evepiratelife.com/ |

Satav
Latinum Exports
24
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Posted - 2011.09.29 15:42:00 -
[47] - Quote
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
First of all podding seems to give a massive security hit. Apart from bragging rights this doesn't offer anythign positive and, besies, a pilot with a large negative rating from destroying hundreds of ships and not podding is t be more feared than one who has destroyd fewer ships but tries to destroys the opponent's capsule.
Clearly, you've never pvped in 0.0. and do all your pvp in lowsec.........
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote: So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game?
To put it plainly, nothing gives me greater pleasure than podding someone knowing that i might have just killed their clone with a full crystal set, snake set, or talisman set, plus their +5 implants as well. Just think of all the isk you just destroyed. This is the "underlying rational."
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Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
16
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Posted - 2011.09.30 08:17:00 -
[48] - Quote
Satav wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
First of all podding seems to give a massive security hit. Apart from bragging rights this doesn't offer anythign positive and, besies, a pilot with a large negative rating from destroying hundreds of ships and not podding is t be more feared than one who has destroyd fewer ships but tries to destroys the opponent's capsule.
Clearly, you've never pvped in 0.0. and do all your pvp in lowsec......... Myfanwy Heimdal wrote: So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game?
To put it plainly, nothing gives me greater pleasure than podding someone knowing that i might have just killed their clone with a full crystal set, snake set, or talisman set, plus their +5 implants as well. Just think of all the isk you just destroyed. This is the "underlying rational." _______________________________________________________________________________ "Your Erebus is docked? How the frack did that happen?" "It took a lot of grease and pushing........."
Pretty much....
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March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
3
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Posted - 2011.09.30 09:40:00 -
[49] - Quote
Satav wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote: So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game?
To put it plainly, nothing gives me greater pleasure than podding someone knowing that i might have just killed their clone with a full crystal set, snake set, or talisman set, plus their +5 implants as well. Just think of all the isk you just destroyed. This is the "underlying rational." some say: make yourself rich instead of crying about others richness.... But we know: this is for the weak! 
on more serious note: you gave the main reason why i don't respect pvp-oriented players in Eve.... Too little and cheap ideas and targets.....
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chadbrochill17
Vendetta Technologies
1
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:02:00 -
[50] - Quote
St Mio wrote:Corpses for my corpse container \o/ Soon my tea party will be upgraded to a full on banquet of corpses all dressed up prim and proper like lords and ladies :D This.
Also, when I used to PvP, the majority of the time it was in wormholes. The reason I would always go for pods in such an environment was to prevent players on the opposing side from being able to reship in a timely enough manner to effect the outcome of the fight. |

Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:45:00 -
[51] - Quote
It's funny.
You get a tiny frozen man popsicle (steady).
Your victim loses their implants. This often leads to real rage.
It's an extra slap in the face. One can opt NOT to pod as a mark of respect. I typically don't pod if someone gave me a standup fight. Podding someone is like the final insult.
If that doesn't amuse you I don't know what's wrong with you.
if you want a more logical answer -
It's significant economic damage.
If your aim is to deprive your opponent of ISK then a set of +4s or a pirate set is a nice dent in their wallet.
If you get the pod you can ransom it too.
Who cares about the sec hit? If you're going aroudn violencing peoples boats you're going to end up -10 sooner or later. |

Issac Haydron
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 05:29:00 -
[52] - Quote
if you're slow enough to actually get pointed, you deserve it |

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.10.02 17:05:00 -
[53] - Quote
I am all for instant pod destruction, double so with instant ship destruction that includes the pod at the same time. Why wait for someone to do it, I can do it myself! Boom! Saves me the time of waiting for them to put me into hull or dealing with the hassle of "e-honor" of a ransom as if I could trust them  |

BobFenner
Black Hole Runners
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 19:33:00 -
[54] - Quote
I live in wormhole space and will ALWAYS try to pod a pilot if the opportunity is available. The main reason has nothing to do with isk, implants or ransoms. It is purely as a means of denying the pilot access to our part of space for as long as possible.
Although I must admit that we do own a cargo container which is kept purely for frozen corpses. 
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Dorian Greene
1st MC
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 07:28:00 -
[55] - Quote
TO! |

Freyh
ClownStar
1
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Posted - 2011.10.03 10:13:00 -
[56] - Quote
Its a mix of "because i can", sending him out of the system, and maximal damage. |

Freako X
Deviant Inc
43
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Posted - 2011.10.03 17:19:00 -
[57] - Quote
I've been podded and I've podded (not on this character ... yet). 
There is heavy reliance on kill boards in this game. Ship + Pod = 2 kills. It's 2 for one and helps with the K-boards.
What other reason is needed? I'm a 'nice' person in real life. I tend to pod when able in Eve. I'm still pretty nice in Eve too 
Overall it is situational. The situation tends to lean toward podding. |

Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 18:38:00 -
[58] - Quote
If I attack someone and he fails to pay ransom then I pod. It specially helps reminding him about his clone loss by linking his corps in local, it shows him and others what happened if u don't pay
I often fly alone in low sec but I seems to be the only one some times so I pod because a pod can provide intel and more important a warp in for his friends, it also annoying to have pods on my overview as I need actually threats on there.
I pod because he might give fleet bonuses to fleet members that are about to warp in on me. |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
3
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Posted - 2011.10.03 18:40:00 -
[59] - Quote
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:If I attack someone and he fails to pay ransom then I pod. It specially helps reminding him about his clone loss by linking his corps in local, it shows him and others what happened if u don't pay
I often fly alone in low sec but I seems to be the only one some times so I pod because a pod can provide intel and more important a warp in for his friends, it also annoying to have pods on my overview as I need actually threats on there.
I pod because he might give fleet bonuses to fleet members that are about to warp in on me.
Now these are new and interesting points - thanks. |

Tabernack en Chasteaux
Next Generation Material Solutions
19
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Posted - 2011.10.03 20:32:00 -
[60] - Quote
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:If I attack someone and he fails to pay ransom then I pod. It specially helps reminding him about his clone loss by linking his corps in local, it shows him and others what happened if u don't pay
I often fly alone in low sec but I seems to be the only one some times so I pod because a pod can provide intel and more important a warp in for his friends, it also annoying to have pods on my overview as I need actually threats on there.
I pod because he might give fleet bonuses to fleet members that are about to warp in on me.
Oh hey, Ferox guy! What are the odds. |

Lieutenant Brooker
Space Morons Something Posing As Meat
1
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Posted - 2011.10.03 20:56:00 -
[61] - Quote
Killing pods is a way of life. |

Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 09:24:00 -
[62] - Quote
Tabernack en Chasteaux wrote:Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:stuff Oh hey, Ferox guy! What are the odds. BobFenner wrote:I live in wormhole space and will ALWAYS try to pod a pilot if the opportunity is available. The main reason has nothing to do with isk, implants or ransoms. It is purely as a means of denying the pilot access to our part of space for as long as possible.
Although I must admit that we do own a cargo container which is kept purely for frozen corpses. I think wormhole dwellers have the most compelling reasons to pod people.
haha yeah its me, hope u have gotten some easier kills man ^^ taking on a ferox in a frig was indeed ballsy when the dude u where attacking had a negative sec standing |

Exploited Engineer
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 00:50:00 -
[63] - Quote
I like having plenty of buyers for the implants I get from storyline missions, so please pod often.  |

5nipe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2011.10.13 20:15:00 -
[64] - Quote
All my buddies - low sec pirates are trying to pod everybody whom they can. Reason: EGO
There is nothing more satisfying that tell buddies in team speak: "we just landed him... and podded!". If there is no pod it looks like job is not done. Some people have tendency smack talk in local and once they caught, podding them with Raven's torpedoes is extremely satisfying. Yes, I know, it is rotten mentality, but it is the way of life in low sec.
It was not difficult to catch pod in low sec before, but with Incarna it very, very easy due to lagish GUI and server responses delays. Don't listen to anybody saying that loosing pod is impossible in low sec. Even if you survived alfa hit, pre-aligned and rapidly hitting warp button like maniac, your chances to escape are slim in Incarna.
check this guys KB for low sec kills:
http://h-o-u-s-e.wictracker.com/
fly safe (carefully)
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Pilotix01
DAXUS-AG
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 21:33:00 -
[65] - Quote
Simply, shott him outta system.. no warp in, no intel... |

Sofa Raddis
Gravity Waste Management
3
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Posted - 2011.10.14 00:25:00 -
[66] - Quote
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote: Look at this from the point of view of a playground bully. Do I want that little brat in the first form to give me his dinner money each week or do I want to give him a hell of a thrashng and humiliate him so much that he gives it me to once and he changes schools?
Haha, excellent reasoning  |

Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate ACE WRECKING COMPANY
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 19:34:00 -
[67] - Quote
Back in the day most pirates never podded but rather ransomed pods. These days everyone has killboard fever. Its all about kill board stats and epeens. |
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