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Storm Tr00per
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Posted - 2011.01.30 22:29:00 -
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So , i got suicide ganked few days ago , and now i want some revenge ... i have locators network , so i can find the guy .
The problem is : if i pod him , do i get concorded ? Or i should be happy only with his wreck ...
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P
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Posted - 2011.01.30 22:59:00 -
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Kill rights only give you the option to engage in non-consensual combat ONCE. So if he runs away, kills you, docks, jumps a gate, etc then you have lost your kill right. So you need to pop them quickly or find them in an area they can't run away from.
Kill rights do not apply to pods.  I suggest finding them in 0.4 or lower space for that 
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Jack Norris
Caldari
T2 Technologies Unlimited
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.01.30 23:05:00 -
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hehe
"non-consensual"
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Azimota
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Posted - 2011.01.31 00:06:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
So if he runs away, kills you, docks, jumps a gate, etc then you have lost your kill right.
Has this been changed very recently?
I'm pretty sure the killright remains until you actually kill them.
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IR Alt
Amarr
Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.01.31 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Azimota
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
So if he runs away, kills you, docks, jumps a gate, etc then you have lost your kill right.
Has this been changed very recently?
I'm pretty sure the killright remains until you actually kill them.
Yes, because it`s not like you can exploit that to somehow always make your target not be able to lock, or in some way interfere with his tracking\optimal (from range) or maybe THE CAPACITOR IS EMPTY, in order to grief them for as long as you have killrights.
Oh wai...
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Shederov Blood
What the Flying Fluff
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Posted - 2011.01.31 01:15:00 -
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I've had a few people attempting to execute their kill rights on me, and failing. The kill rights are still there for the duration of the 30 days.
Also, confirming that you can't do any of the stuff that the faceless alt described unless you have kill rights on someone.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Kill rights only give you the option to engage in non-consensual combat ONCE. So if he runs away, kills you, docks, jumps a gate, etc then you have lost your kill right. So you need to pop them quickly or find them in an area they can't run away from.
Kill rights do not apply to pods. I suggest finding them in 0.4 or lower space for that
That's just regular aggression mechanics Zym, which occur if you flip a can or something like that.
He's talking about kill rights, when someone killed him. That lasts for 30 days.
But yeah, you're right about the pods tho, kill rights (as well as the aggression you're talking about) does not apply to capsules.
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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.31 03:16:00 -
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1. Find suicide ganker in Jita.
2. Wait in a destroyer for them to get concorded.
3. Lock, scram and kill pod.
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Eura Sukor
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Posted - 2011.01.31 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dor
1. Find suicide ganker in Jita.
2. Wait in a destroyer for them to get concorded.
3. Lock, scram and kill pod.
4. Get concorded for not knowing how criminal flagging works.
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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.31 03:22:00 -
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Kill rights not criminal flag.
Though for the record shoul I take it that GCC does not apply to pods after concording?
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Eternum Praetorian
True Creation
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.31 03:23:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist... your hair is just... magnificent.
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Eura Sukor
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Posted - 2011.01.31 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dor
Kill rights not criminal flag.
Though for the record shoul I take it that GCC does not apply to pods after concording?
You only get kill rights if you are the pilot they killed, and you didn't fight back.
You cannot pod a pilot that went global in high-sec without getting concorded.
The only time you can pod kill a pilot in high-sec without going global is if you're at war with their corp/alliance, or the pilot is -5.
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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.31 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Eura Sukor
Originally by: Jas Dor
Kill rights not criminal flag.
Though for the record shoul I take it that GCC does not apply to pods after concording?
You only get kill rights if you are the pilot they killed, and you didn't fight back.
You cannot pod a pilot that went global in high-sec without getting concorded.
The only time you can pod kill a pilot in high-sec without going global is if you're at war with their corp/alliance, or the pilot is -5.
Well since the OP has kill rights and wants to pod someone. . .
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Jhoria Englside
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.31 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Kill rights only give you the option to engage in non-consensual combat ONCE. So if he runs away, kills you, docks, jumps a gate, etc then you have lost your kill right. So you need to pop them quickly or find them in an area they can't run away from.
Kill rights do not apply to pods. I suggest finding them in 0.4 or lower space for that
no, i cant just be nice about this. hes a pimple on the backside. zym, if you dont know the mechanics please do not advise people with wrong information. maybe you should try playing the game a little? next time you have the urge to give advice maybe run it by someone in the office who knows what they are talking about? the degree of misinformation thats out there about several mechanics are already staggering. please dont add to it.
Originally by: CCP Zym
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Captain Die
Suicide by Cop
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Posted - 2011.01.31 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
CCP Zymurgist... your hair is just... magnificent.
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Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.01.31 15:41:00 -
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Circumstances will dictate what you can and can't do.
Sadly, they're probably an alt, and nothing you can do will actually hurt them without a massive time investment on your part.
You can try bumping them constantly, this messes up their arty tracking so they can't get any more kills.
You can try perma-jamming them, so they can't get any more kills.
In the end, you'll probably find that you just have to suck it up, because anything else is just throwing good money after bad.
If they're suiciding on their main and they go mission running to get their sec status back, well there's a jackpot waiting to happen. Maybe. If it was me suicide ganking you, I wouldn't fall for that "mission running" bobbins, I'm totally faking it trying to lure more suckers into my trap. Honest.
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Syndryna
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Eura Sukor
Originally by: Jas Dor
1. Find suicide ganker in Jita.
2. Wait in a destroyer for them to get concorded.
3. Lock, scram and kill pod.
4. Get concorded for not knowing how criminal flagging works.
5. Who cares, it's a Destroyer, well worth the lulz.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
CCP Zymurgist... your hair is just... magnificent.
thread is now about Zym's hair.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
Beer and Smoke Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.31 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
CCP Zymurgist... your hair is just... magnificent.
Unlike his advice, amirite?
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
Beer and Smoke Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.31 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Kill rights only give you the option to engage in non-consensual combat ONCE. So if he runs away, kills you, docks, jumps a gate, etc then you have lost your kill right. So you need to pop them quickly or find them in an area they can't run away from.
Kill rights do not apply to pods. I suggest finding them in 0.4 or lower space for that
AND WHO SAYS THAT THE GMs ARE UNINFORMED AND/OR USE COPY PASTA RESPONSES TO PETITIONS lol
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Deja Thoris
Invicta.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Kill rights only give you the option to engage in non-consensual combat ONCE. So if he runs away, kills you, docks, jumps a gate, etc then you have lost your kill right. So you need to pop them quickly or find them in an area they can't run away from.
Kill rights do not apply to pods. I suggest finding them in 0.4 or lower space for that
Killrights allow you to engage a target until you kill his ship. That means you can stalke them to your hearts content for the full period of the killrights, trying over and over again.
I'd be polite but the fact that a CCP employee can't even get a pretty simple fact about combat in their own game correct is beyond pathetic.
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Ryhss
Caldari
QuanNet Evolved
Gecko Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.31 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Azimota
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
So if he runs away, kills you, docks, jumps a gate, etc then you have lost your kill right.
Has this been changed very recently?
I'm pretty sure the killright remains until you actually kill them.
That's what I thought.
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Cartheron Crust
Spais Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.31 19:11:00 -
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CCP Dev in a not understanding their own game mechanics non-shocker. |
ApophisXP
Sadistic Retribution
Sadistic Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.31 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Kill rights only give you the option to engage in non-consensual combat ONCE. So if he runs away, kills you, docks, jumps a gate, etc then you have lost your kill right. So you need to pop them quickly or find them in an area they can't run away from.
Kill rights do not apply to pods. I suggest finding them in 0.4 or lower space for that
Quoting for future petitions lol
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DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.01.31 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cartheron Crust
CCP Dev in a not understanding their own game mechanics non-shocker.
Confirming the community manager handles all development of every kind in EVE Online.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P
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Posted - 2011.02.01 00:04:00 -
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OI, Sorry Storm Tr00per. I seem to of been mistaken in my knowledge of Kill rights, in repayment I've edited my original post with a funny story about how I came to the correct answer.
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Snowmann
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Posted - 2011.02.01 00:08:00 -
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Thanks for the thorough follow up.
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Dannerkongen
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Posted - 2011.02.01 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
OI, Sorry Storm Tr00per. I seem to of been mistaken in my knowledge of Kill rights, in repayment I've edited my original post with a funny story about how I came to the correct answer.
lol, noob.
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Dremoirae
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.01 04:29:00 -
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i still dont get it...people who play EvE Online are smart people...why in the world you made something not important into big f****ng mess..hey zym is a human too..human made mistake
so you never made a mistakes??? i'll give you all my ships if you never made a mistake in your whole da*n f*****ng life...
Geezz....Grow up please...go outside nerd
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Jhoria Englside
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.01 05:56:00 -
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ill take his apology and i appreciate that he manned up and admitted it, and even tested to make sure. thats what i think of when i hear that an employee doesnt know for sure the answer to a question. they find out drunkenly and give an answer. all this "only human, only human" is throwing aside one important fact. if your paid to be part of something and you are asked a question that question ought to be answered right. no exceptions. if you do not know you ask someone who does know. if no one knows dont answer. not answering is better than a wrong answer.
Originally by: CCP Zym
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