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ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.31 15:49:00 - [1] Actually two very good vids from the latest space tourist buzzing the "locals". UFO Filmed by Two Dudes, Both Sync Perfectly, Same Seen in Utah ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2011.01.31 15:59:00 - [2] So let me get this straight: we have a video of this giant glowing light, visible from a pretty large distance, descending to rooftop level (or very close at least), *but nobody else got it on tape*. This is something that should be as obvious as if a 747 decided to hover in your back yard, and the only record we have is some blurry video from a long distance, not a single person right next to this "UFO" thought it was worth it to take their camera out and film the alien spacecraft. Yeah, this totally outweighs all the arguments against UFOs being aliens... -----------
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:09:00 - [3] Not sure is serious.. Are you whining because you only got two (counting Utah, three actually) pretty decent vids of the same thing, or that there aren¦t oodles of shaky cellphone cam vids posted on UTub? Tape? Do try to catch up, it¦s mem.card now. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:20:00 - [4] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Are you whining because you only got two (counting Utah, three actually) pretty decent vids of the same thing, or that there aren¦t oodles of shaky cellphone cam vids posted on UTub? That's your definition of "pretty decent"? This is not exactly complicated. Look at how low it appears to drop in the video. Now, think about what it would look like when something large and bright enough to be filmed from such a long distance is hovering right over your head. Seems like it would be pretty obvious, right? Not exactly something you could miss? So, *why is there no close-range video from directly under it*? -----------
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:27:00 - [5] Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 31/01/2011 16:26:50 so we have aliens who can travel millions upon millions of km in relatively small craft but can't figure out how to turn off the lights so no one sees them seems legit~ _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 31/01/2011 16:26:50 so we have aliens who can travel millions upon millions of km in relatively small craft but can't figure out how to turn off the lights so no one sees them seems legit~ It is one of those mysteries with stealthy technology that has yet to be solved I would guess, you won't appear on radar, but your blinking lights is to be seen miles away. By all who look up and makes a video of it.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:33:00 - [7] Originally by: Alpheias Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 31/01/2011 16:26:50 so we have aliens who can travel millions upon millions of km in relatively small craft but can't figure out how to turn off the lights so no one sees them seems legit~ It is one of those mysteries with stealthy technology that has yet to be solved I would guess, you won't appear on radar, but your blinking lights is to be seen miles away. By all who look up and makes a video of it. perhaps it's against interstellar spacelaws for alien craft to not have their blinky lights on when in an atmosphere DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT, SMARTY PANTS _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:34:00 - [8] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Originally by: Alpheias Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 31/01/2011 16:26:50 so we have aliens who can travel millions upon millions of km in relatively small craft but can't figure out how to turn off the lights so no one sees them seems legit~ It is one of those mysteries with stealthy technology that has yet to be solved I would guess, you won't appear on radar, but your blinking lights is to be seen miles away. By all who look up and makes a video of it. perhaps it's against interstellar spacelaws for alien craft to not have their blinky lights on when in an atmosphere DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT, SMARTY PANTS WHOOOP WHOOP! It is the sound of the Space Police!
Misstress Iteron	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:37:00 - [9] Why is it that these things are never in focus and are miles away?
Vogue Short Bus Pole Dancers	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:40:00 - [10] .................................................. One man with courage is a majority

Winterblink Body Count Inc. Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Misstress Iteron Why is it that these things are never in focus and are miles away? The most likely reason for the latter part of the question is that they are located miles away. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:46:00 - [12] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Misstress Iteron Why is it that these things are never in focus and are miles away? The most likely reason for the latter part of the question is that they are located miles away. or the aliens have made amazing strides in remote camera obfuscation you never know, man! _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2011.01.31 16:46:00 - [13] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 31/01/2011 16:46:59 Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Misstress Iteron Why is it that these things are never in focus and are miles away? The most likely reason for the latter part of the question is that they are located miles away. Miles away for some people, but directly overhead for others. Yet somehow we never have a detailed closeup from the people directly under it, even in cases (like this one) where the UFO is over a major city. A suspicious person might even suspect that this is because a detailed closeup would reveal that it's not an alien spaceship after all. -----------
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.01.31 17:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Miles away for some people, but directly overhead for others. Yet somehow we never have a detailed closeup from the people directly under it, even in cases (like this one) where the UFO is over a major city. A suspicious person might even suspect that this is because a detailed closeup would reveal that it's not an alien spaceship after all. A really suspicious person would suspect that suspicious person was really an alien attempting to misdirect everyone from the truth. warp drive active \| nature vraie
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.31 17:15:00 - [15] Originally by: Merin Ryskin A suspicious person might even suspect that this is because a detailed closeup would reveal that it's not an alien spaceship after all. So you think these things are from earth, built by people that have secretly developed vastly superior tech? Wow, are you a conspiracy terrorist or something? ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Sinister Dextor	Posted - 2011.01.31 18:08:00 - [16] Why are both videos obviously taken from exactly the same angle/vantage point?
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2011.01.31 18:47:00 - [17] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Originally by: Merin Ryskin A suspicious person might even suspect that this is because a detailed closeup would reveal that it's not an alien spaceship after all. So you think these things are from earth, built by people that have secretly developed vastly superior tech? Wow, are you a conspiracy terrorist or something? No, I think that they are not advanced technology at all, and are just illusions/fraud/mis-identifications/etc. My point about lack of closeups is that there is a very simple explanation for why nobody right next to the supposed UFO bothered to take a picture: because there wasn't anything there. There is a very good reason astronomers rarely report UFOs, and it isn't because they don't spend enough time looking up at the sky. -----------
KaarBaak Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe	Posted - 2011.01.31 21:07:00 - [18] Edited by: KaarBaak on 31/01/2011 21:07:39 Originally by: ivar R'dhak Originally by: Merin Ryskin A suspicious person might even suspect that this is because a detailed closeup would reveal that it's not an alien spaceship after all. So you think these things are from earth, built by people that ~~have~~ will secretly develop vastly superior tech? Wow, are you a conspiracy terrorist or something? FYP Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.31 21:57:00 - [19] Originally by: Merin Ryskin My point about lack of closeups is that there is a very simple explanation for why nobody right next to the supposed UFO bothered to take a picture: because there wasn't anything there. Riight, no closeups means it¦s not there. Like all the closeups CNN manages to get from their balcony about the Egypt revolution. Too shaky and blurry, so it didn¦t happen. I have homework for you Sherlock. Next time you go out of the house at night watch all the people constantly NOT looking up. Especially in a well lit public place. As for the astronomers not seeing anything while supposedly constantly scanning the sky. How the frack do YOU know? Are you the goto guy for all astronomers worldwide when they see something for which they KNOW they will be publicly ridiculed and loose their grant(aka job), if they even dare say one word about it. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2011.01.31 21:58:00 - [20] Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 31/01/2011 21:59:46 This has been debunked. I can't be arsed to find the link, but one of the images used to make this fake was pulled from Wikipedia. edit: And yes, if I was a hyper-advanced alien species visiting a world of primitive savages, I'd make sure my ships were clearly visible in a light spectrum said savages can perceive, so they could draw a nice, clear bead on me with their primitive AA weapons. Black paint and nighttime flyovers? Pff, we're aliens, we don't need that.

Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2011.01.31 22:01:00 - [21] Originally by: Sinister Dextor Why are both videos obviously taken from exactly the same angle/vantage point? GAAAAAAAAAH! I WAS WRONG! IT'S A GREY!
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.31 22:16:00 - [22] Edited by: ivar R''dhak on 31/01/2011 22:16:43 Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu edit: And yes, if I was a hyper-advanced alien species visiting a world of primitive savages, I'd make sure my ships were clearly visible in a light spectrum said savages can perceive, so they could draw a nice, clear bead on me with their primitive AA weapons. Black paint and nighttime flyovers? Pff, we're aliens, we don't need that. Heh, I have a hard time figuring out why my fellow HUMANS do the stupid things they do. Not exactly feeling like figuring out supposedly advanced extra-Ts or giving much credit to the presumptions others heap on "them". As for the stupidly-visible sarcasm. Maybe if you¦re in a ride that can accelerate multiple Gs while freely ignoring momentum or gravity, some crap that barely breaks the sound barrier is of no consequence? Vids are debunked, eh? Should¦ve known. Damned Mormons are everywhere, crapping on your UFOz. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.31 22:18:00 - [23] Space Jesus is about to return. Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2011.01.31 22:50:00 - [24] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Riight, no closeups means it¦s not there. When "it" is supposedly a large, brightly illuminated object hovering at low altitude over a major city, yes, a lack of closeups is a pretty clear hint that it isn't there. Especially in the age of cell phone cameras, if it really was there, there would be hundreds of pictures/videos uploaded to the internet within minutes. Quote: Like all the closeups CNN manages to get from their balcony about the Egypt revolution. Except: 1) We do have closeups of the Egypt revolution. 2) Even where we don't, we have enough detail to confirm that something is going on, and we aren't just mis-identifying something entirely unrelated. 3) We have a good explanation why closeups might not be available (that is, foreign journalists being confined to their hotel), unlike the UFO case where there is no plausible reason why nobody in the major city it was supposedly hovering over bothered to take out their cell phone camera and grab some better pictures/video. 4) We have confirmation from plenty of other sources that the Egypt revolution is happening, but no independent evidence for the UFO to compensate for the poor video. Quote: Next time you go out of the house at night watch all the people constantly NOT looking up. Especially in a well lit public place. Hint: that's because there isn't a brightly glowing alien spaceship hovering overhead. Given the distance the video was taken from, this thing would be lighting up the city below like it was the middle of the afternoon. Most people are going to notice a change like that. Quote: As for the astronomers not seeing anything while supposedly constantly scanning the sky. How the frack do YOU know? I said REPORTING. And you know why it is? Because astronomers are actually experienced enough not to report airplane lights/planets/etc as "OMG UFO". -----------
Dray Caldari Euphoria Released WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.02.01 05:25:00 - [25] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Originally by: Merin Ryskin My point about lack of closeups is that there is a very simple explanation for why nobody right next to the supposed UFO bothered to take a picture: because there wasn't anything there. Riight, no closeups means it¦s not there. Like all the closeups CNN manages to get from their balcony about the Egypt revolution. Too shaky and blurry, so it didn¦t happen. I have homework for you Sherlock. Next time you go out of the house at night watch all the people constantly NOT looking up. Especially in a well lit public place. As for the astronomers not seeing anything while supposedly constantly scanning the sky. How the frack do YOU know? Are you the goto guy for all astronomers worldwide when they see something for which they KNOW they will be publicly ridiculed and loose their grant(aka job), if they even dare say one word about it. Points I have trouble with. 1. 2 people in a crowded city at night capture it on cell phones and no one else. 2. For years people have been spewing spurious crap like this and yet here we are and there is still no concrete proof, only whispers rumours and "the governement has it all on secret file locked away". 3. It's on a terrible looking website called "I wanna believe". There's some idiots out there when it comes to this stuff, my brother in law is a bio-chemist and is as intelligent a person I've met but he loves this UFO bollox and no amount of rational argument will persuade him otherwise, all this I can forgive...... ....but you used the word "frack" that is unforgivable, do the world a favour and don't breed, idiots I can live with but people that use the word "frack" should get rectal exams with a baseball bat covered in chicken wire. Carry on being a fool in your own time.
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.02.01 13:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Dray Carry on being a fool in your own time. I heard of this great tip to never argue with a fool because he¦ll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Thnx for giving such a powerful example. BTW I use frack because I¦m not allowed the proper adult word as the a$$hole nanny filter is in full force on these forums. Technically you could even report me for this post as I circumvented the filter using those dangerous "$$" above. Feel free to prove your superior experience. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.02.01 13:52:00 - [27] Edited by: ivar R''dhak on 01/02/2011 13:54:44 Ah, what the heck. It makes no sense whatsoever to argue with a professional "being-righter" like you but I¦m bored. K, going from the assumption that it isn¦t a shoop as those claim who have obviously seen quite a lot of those in their time and can "see teh Pixels". Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: ivar R'dhak Riight, no closeups means it¦s not there. When "it" is supposedly a large, brightly illuminated object hovering at low altitude over a major city, yes, a lack of closeups is a pretty clear hint that it isn't there. It¦s neither large nor a brightly lit object as it¦s not illuminating the place at all. Just appears so from the dark hills where these flics were taken and posted to YOUTUBE. Also you might actually not understand that the Temple Mount isn¦t exactly a US mall during late shopping hours. Not sure, but it¦s probably even closed off at that time of night. Quote: Quote: Like all the closeups CNN manages to get from their balcony about the Egypt revolution. Except: 1) We do have closeups of the Egypt revolution. No, we don¦t. (Unless you copy of AlJazeera) Quote: 2) Even where we don't, we have enough detail to confirm that something is going on, and we aren't just mis-identifying something entirely unrelated. Meaning if it isn¦t on the TeeVee then it isn¦s true, Righto. Quote: 3) ... unlike the UFO case where there is no plausible reason why nobody in the major city it was supposedly hovering over bothered to take out their cell phone camera and grab some better pictures/video. Are you living in an actual bigger city? Once something sinks low enough nobody is seeing a thing because the horizon is obscured by all the buildings. As for the people in the immediate vicinity of Temple Mount, maybe all the soldiers, monks, temple workers just stared slackjawed at that shiny ball hovering there for all those long seconds? But of course a worldly gentleman like you would¦ve immediately go for his iPhone to make that ultra clear totally non-shaky studio quality vid. Damn, where are those Chinese/Japanese tourists when you need them. Quote: 4) We have confirmation from plenty of other sources that the Egypt revolution is happening, but no independent evidence for the UFO to compensate for the poor video. Ah, k. You mean like from the TeeVee and vids on the internet? Quote: Quote: Homework: Next time you go out of the house at night watch all the people constantly NOT looking up. Especially in a well lit public place. Hint: that's because there isn't a brightly glowing alien spaceship hovering overhead. You obviously didn¦t do the homework. Come back when you have. Quote: Quote: As for the astronomers not seeing anything while supposedly constantly scanning the sky. How the frack do YOU know? I said REPORTING. And you know why it is? Because astronomers are actually experienced enough not to report airplane lights/planets/etc as "OMG UFO". Ah back, to the TeeVee thing. Believing everything you see in the idiotbox isn¦t very healthy for your mental stability, you know? Try to wean yourself of that addiction. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Sanadras Riahn	Posted - 2011.02.01 16:38:00 - [28] Edited by: Sanadras Riahn on 01/02/2011 16:39:24 That saddest part is it's my got my office's chat room lit up like a christmas tree. Here's how you can tell it was fake: This was taken some miles away from the "hovering location" let's call it. There was a large flash before the light streaked into the sky. And it was moving very very quickly. The large flash and the hovering object would have generated at least NEWS in Jerusalem because that's kind of hard to miss, especially hovering over a very popular and holy site. All we've got is some Youtube videos and nothing coming report-wise from actual Jerusalem. Secondly, you'd think something moving that quickly at that acceleration rate would have made a hell of a bang when it breached the Sound Barrier. And the Utah Incident? Come ON. The fact it fell to the ground and didn't come back suggests more along the lines of a large meteorite than any real alien air craft.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2011.02.01 23:08:00 - [29] Originally by: Sanadras Riahn Edited by: Sanadras Riahn on 01/02/2011 16:39:24 That saddest part is it's my got my office's chat room lit up like a christmas tree. Here's how you can tell it was fake: This was taken some miles away from the "hovering location" let's call it. There was a large flash before the light streaked into the sky. And it was moving very very quickly. The large flash and the hovering object would have generated at least NEWS in Jerusalem because that's kind of hard to miss, especially hovering over a very popular and holy site. All we've got is some Youtube videos and nothing coming report-wise from actual Jerusalem. Secondly, you'd think something moving that quickly at that acceleration rate would have made a hell of a bang when it breached the Sound Barrier. And the Utah Incident? Come ON. The fact it fell to the ground and didn't come back suggests more along the lines of a large meteorite than any real alien air craft. There's one other thing... Israel has a LOT of security cameras. If there was a bright light around the Temple Mount, you can be sure that about a thousand/ten thousand other cameras would have seen the same UFO... except they didn't. Thus: FAKE.
Dray Caldari Euphoria Released WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.02.02 00:02:00 - [30] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Originally by: Dray Carry on being a fool in your own time. I heard of this great tip to never argue with a fool because he¦ll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Thnx for giving such a powerful example. BTW I use frack because I¦m not allowed the proper adult word as the a$$hole nanny filter is in full force on these forums. Technically you could even report me for this post as I circumvented the filter using those dangerous "$$" above. Feel free to prove your superior experience. How did I give you a powerful example of a fool dragging you down to his level?? If asking for real proof not a couple of muppets with cell phones as evidence of UFO's, which you happen to think is "neato", is your example then using the word "frack" is least of your problems tbh. As for "frack" there are far better ways of expressing yourself, you're not Starbuck and this isn't BSG, it's Peewee Herman trying to be all gangsta but 100x worse. As a fine example of a fool dragging you down to his level I offer this snippet. Originally by: ivar R'dhak Ah back, to the TeeVee thing. Believing everything you see in the idiotbox isn¦t very healthy for your mental stability, you know? Try to wean yourself of that addiction. You question his argument because TV isn't to be trusted yet you start this thread with cell phone evidence of UFO's from a website called "I wanna believe", I take back the "frack" thing, you do have way bigger problems to deal with, anyone who thinks this is a good comeback after starting this thread could quite easily lose a game of charades to Stevie Wonder. Like I said carry on being a fool in your own time.

Vak'ran	Posted - 2011.02.02 00:13:00 - [31] Originally by: Vogue i want one Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum
Dray Caldari Euphoria Released WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.02.02 00:14:00 - [32] Originally by: Vak'ran Originally by: Vogue i want one Every time I look at that picture I think of weed....
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.02.02 01:36:00 - [33] I think that¦s why we can¦t have nice things. Everybody thinks that farting crap really fast out of a backwards pointing orifice is the ultimate in transportation. Makes me almost miss digital watches. Are those even around anymore? ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Aldarica Spinal Discipline	Posted - 2011.02.03 16:20:00 - [34] Estimating distances on the sky is very difficult even for professional pilots and there's no way that we can tell how far that object really was. Let alone its speed and size. Sure, it appeared to be just above the Temple Hill but it could as well hover above some point (tens of) kilometers away from the city.
Vogue Short Bus Pole Dancers	Posted - 2011.02.03 16:25:00 - [35] I think I saw a UFO in Sutton Coldfield around 1987. It seemed small, Y shaped with those upright fins at the end of the swept back wings. It was very slender and had no bulges typical of jet or propeller aircraft. It looked like it was doing about 20mph. .................................................. One man with courage is a majority
Aldarica Spinal Discipline	Posted - 2011.02.03 16:53:00 - [36] btw, it looks like another nice footage of ball lightning.
Homeless Harold	Posted - 2011.02.03 22:58:00 - [37] Thought I would just throw this out there, same thing but a closer view. Here
Aldarica Spinal Discipline	Posted - 2011.02.04 00:52:00 - [38] Originally by: Homeless Harold Thought I would just throw this out there, same thing but a closer view. Here Um... what happened with that powerful burst of light seen on other vids?
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.02.04 01:05:00 - [39] Originally by: Aldarica Um... what happened with that powerful burst of light seen on other vids? So your standard ball lightning/swamp gas/Venus reflection fallback didn¦t work out so good and now you want somebody to explain the obvious to you again? Ever heard of the expression ".. pearls before the swine"? ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Aldarica Spinal Discipline	Posted - 2011.02.04 01:29:00 - [40] Edited by: Aldarica on 04/02/2011 01:30:29 Originally by: ivar R'dhak Originally by: Aldarica Um... what happened with that powerful burst of light seen on other vids? So your standard ball lightning/swamp gas/Venus reflection fallback didn¦t work out so good and now you want somebody to explain the obvious to you again? Ever heard of the expression ".. pearls before the swine"? First footage linked here resembles typical ball lightning (everything is there... movements, hovering, flash etc), and I said that we cannot be sure how far it was. Then came this second vid, allegedly showing that same bright orb sitting just above the Dome of the Rock, and I noticed that there's no flash... hence my question. I am still pretty sure that it was ball lightning, and to be honest, this close-up video looks like it was directed.

Homeless Harold	Posted - 2011.02.04 01:38:00 - [41] Originally by: Aldarica First footage linked here resembles typical ball lightning (everything is there... movements, hovering, flash etc), and I said that we cannot be sure how far it was. Then came this second vid, allegedly showing that same bright orb sitting just above the Dome of the Rock, and I noticed that there's no flash... hence my question. I am still pretty sure that it was ball lightning, and to be honest, this close-up video looks like it was directed. If you look closer at the two videos that are further away you can notice that there are two flashes, the first closer to the cameras and the second(smaller) closer to the object. It could be that the close video was past the flashes. X---\|---\|---Y---Z X=Far people \|=Flashes Y=Close people Z=Object
Aldarica Spinal Discipline	Posted - 2011.02.04 14:02:00 - [42] Edited by: Aldarica on 04/02/2011 14:06:58 Edited by: Aldarica on 04/02/2011 14:05:17 Originally by: Homeless Harold If you look closer at the two videos that are further away you can notice that there are two flashes, the first closer to the cameras and the second(smaller) closer to the object. It could be that the close video was past the flashes. X---\|---\|---Y---Z X=Far people \|=Flashes Y=Close people Z=Object You could be right, but I am now 100% sure that the close-up footage was CGI. Why? Not so much because of the missing flashes but due to the simple fact that on this original video, as well as on this one taken from different angle and location you can clearly see that the orb is moving horizontally while hovering just above the ground. While it's completely static on the fake footage taken near the Dome of the Rock (which really looks like a photo with pretty bad computer animation added later). All in all, I stand to my opinion that the first couple of published vids were probably real deal, showing spectacular ball lightning fireworks.
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.02.04 16:03:00 - [43] You convinced me. The Utah branch of ILM tested it¦s ball-lightning machine and got the Jerusalem branch to perfect it. Makes total sense. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦


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