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Laci Jugis Modo Utopia HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.02.01 08:32:00 - [1] The Guide will be released today, Stay tuned
Kitty McKitty Gallente Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.02.01 08:39:00 - [2] threadworthy ~~~
NG4ge AUF EX Nabaal Syndicate	Posted - 2011.02.01 08:43:00 - [3] Good to hear
Arcathra Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.01 08:44:00 - [4] Great, looking forward to it! The ISK 2.0 guide helped me a lot living in EVE. Carry on the great work!
Michael AA	Posted - 2011.02.01 12:26:00 - [5] Can't wait. ISK 2.0 is one of my favourite readings at the moment.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2011.02.01 12:28:00 - [6] Does it include ratting bot? If not, it's useless.
Ryo Ishikawa	Posted - 2011.02.01 12:30:00 - [7] I've been refreshing the site since yesterday evening. Release it faster! :)
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:13:00 - [8] The ISK 3.0 Lite has released! http://www.isktheguide.com

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:17:00 - [9] Edited by: Chribba on 01/02/2011 18:18:00 IN ON FIRST PAGE! me awaits the free copy and the time when it is released as hard copy update/got it! awesome. /c Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Myfanwy Heimdal	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:26:00 - [10] Blast. I get Dictionary Encryption errors on all my downloads.

Icey Comet Gallente Rule of Five Split Infinity.	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:26:00 - [11] Much awaited!
War Dolphin	Posted - 2011.02.01 19:02:00 - [12] First impressions: Pro: Quality of the text: 10 (It really improved ) Pictures: 6 (some of the old picture where better) Negative: PDF starts in full screen. How do you expect us to read it?? On a normal monitor the fonts are to small. And I figured out why: A3 format Crap.. It's a book for a god sake. I don't want to print it out to be able to read it normally. Suggestion: keep the content, however convert the doc to an A4 format.
Aethlyn	Posted - 2011.02.02 00:07:00 - [13] Yeah, same here. For reading on the screen an A4 version might be better. Also ... what's up with that "lite version" vs. the "premium version"? Extra content you have to pay for? Higher resolution to print out? Sounds quite confusing. Oh, and wanted to mention: SumatraPDF doesn't show any bookmarks for ISK 3.0 (didn't try other viewers). Is that intended? Losing all the fancy digital age stuff like finding the right page rather quick here. :(
Everinsearch	Posted - 2011.02.02 00:13:00 - [14] EPIC /also. First page.
Corozan Aspinall Party Time Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.02 00:43:00 - [15] Yeah alright. We get the idea. Now **** off back to wherever you came from eh? Good lad.
coolzero Gallente	Posted - 2011.02.02 01:14:00 - [16] to the makers...great work love it!!! give rights to CCP/EON to print it CCP get the printers running :P i want this in print :D Jack of all trades, master of none...
Mey Alman Jonferson Space Dynamics Division	Posted - 2011.02.02 01:24:00 - [17] Originally by: War Dolphin And I figured out why: A3 format Crap.. It's a book for a god sake. I don't want to print it out to be able to read it normally. Suggestion: keep the content, however convert the doc to an A4 format. THIS Who the **** had that stupid idea. I mean if you want two pages next to each other then that's the Job of the PDF viewer. Thanks for screwing with ebook readers.
Imalaric	Posted - 2011.02.02 02:52:00 - [18] I'm afraid I'm in the unimpressed group. I don't like the new format as it is hard to read on an iPad. ISK 2.0 was good, portrait-mode layout, reasonable sized fonts. ISK 3.0 Lite (Ug... lite... not sure I'm a fan of this distinction either..) on the other hand is in landscape-mode, the fonts are too small to read comfortably. I haven't had a chance to actually try to read it yet, so I can't comment on the actual content. ISK 2.0 was very good, so I'm sure 3.0 will be as well.
Zhou Wuwang Federal Laboratories	Posted - 2011.02.02 05:20:00 - [19] Edited by: Zhou Wuwang on 02/02/2011 05:20:40 I have to agree. I'm not really sure I understand what the author was going for with the format. The page formatting is really bad and the text is unreadable given the inability to zoom in without uncomfortable use of a horizontal scroll bar. Portrait in standard format is the way to go. The file you send off to a printer to make your proof, isn't appropriate for digital distribution -- if that's what you tried to do here -- that's all I can make of the odd format. Coffee table book maybe? As mentioned, the "Lite" version? This doesn't appear to be explained. Is there another? Isn't armor spelled - well - like armor? I can't read the actual text, but I scanned through it... looks like the missing manual to me. Fix the formatting and you have a solid guide.
Hoxillian Montgomery Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.02.02 05:43:00 - [20] Maybe if you people pay you can have a perfect guide on any format you like +1 thanks for the guide!

P42ALPHA	Posted - 2011.02.02 05:52:00 - [21] yes
Zhou Wuwang Federal Laboratories	Posted - 2011.02.02 05:54:00 - [22] Edited by: Zhou Wuwang on 02/02/2011 05:55:08 Originally by: Hoxillian Montgomery Edited by: Hoxillian Montgomery on 02/02/2011 05:47:38 Maybe if you people pay up you can have a perfect guide on any format you like Some people can be soooo demanding. I mean at least say thanks or good job first before criticizing jeesh +1 thanks for the guide! I think I'm pretty reasonable. If the purpose of the guide is to provide the information then the format is basically the most important factor in the presentation. Nonetheless, I applaud their effort. I do say, however, unlike other better fan works -- this appears very much to be driven by some level of financial motive. Someone appears to expect to monetize this work -- I assume with CCP's license. More the reason to point out as a digital distribution, it really fails to present its information effectively.
Graelyn Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2011.02.02 06:31:00 - [23] This is wonderful news! MODS: I REQUEST A STICKY FOR THIS BUSINESS UP IN HERE ---------------- Minister of Communications - xDIAx
Imalaric	Posted - 2011.02.02 06:56:00 - [24] Originally by: Hoxillian Montgomery Edited by: Hoxillian Montgomery on 02/02/2011 05:47:38 Maybe if you people pay up you can have a perfect guide on any format you like Some people can be soooo demanding. I mean at least say thanks or good job first before criticizing jeesh +1 thanks for the guide! Hey, I didn't start by swearing... I said "unimpressed". And talked about 2.0 (technically 2.01) was good. But the change in formatting has made the document far less approachable than the previous version. Plus, as I recall, ISK 2.01 didn't have any advertising... 3.0 does. I'm hoping the content of 3.0 is as good as 2.01, but I have to steel myself for scrolling all over the document since I have to zoom in to read it. (Looking at a few random pages, they even have a page gutter between the left and right sides. Split those into two PDF pages and put it in portrait mode... looks like that would be sufficient to make it readable again.) Oddly enough, the title page is in portrait orientation, just the rest of the book is in landscape.
Scorpionidae	Posted - 2011.02.02 07:49:00 - [25] Not being an agg but when I opened it in the PDF its really small and I can't read the small text and I really want to read it. Scorpionidae
Siigari Kitawa Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.02.02 07:53:00 - [26] Supporting this! o/ www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
Iron Mayden Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.02 09:37:00 - [27] I also think the new format is terrible as a digital media. It should keep the previous format, much more readable. Specialized in Science, Industry and Trade
Zaldoza Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.02 09:47:00 - [28] 1st a big thanks for the hard work But yaa i have to say also,please change it to A4
TooNu Caldari draketrain	Posted - 2011.02.02 10:47:00 - [29] That is some awesome work. It looks really great, well done. --------------------------------------- http://toonu.wordpress.com/
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.02.02 12:00:00 - [30] Thanks for all suggestions. We are listening for suggestions and/or bugreports and will release 3.1 when we have compiled all feedback.

Efraya Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.02 13:20:00 - [31] Wanted to say thanks for developing this guide, chock full of useful information. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
Everinsearch	Posted - 2011.02.02 20:55:00 - [32] why hidden on page three of forums? FTFY
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.02.03 07:15:00 - [33] The CCP offered a helping hand to distribute the guide, so now you can download from the CCP's server :) Thank you CCP <3 http://www.isktheguide.com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
Chopper Rollins Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.03 10:37:00 - [34] Edited by: Chopper Rollins on 03/02/2011 10:38:00 bumping to endorse this product edit: spelling, format and layout.
Al Choholic	Posted - 2011.02.03 11:00:00 - [35] Wow! Great Job! Friendly bump
General Newbold	Posted - 2011.02.03 12:07:00 - [36] why is it lite??
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.02.03 12:09:00 - [37] Bcos a "To Be Continued" sounds very silly :D -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
Chopper Rollins Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.03 12:31:00 - [38] Edited by: Chopper Rollins on 03/02/2011 12:35:40 Pg 309 Corporate Hangar Array description is a repeat of Refining Array above it. o/
Gilroy Marcellus Gallente	Posted - 2011.02.03 23:38:00 - [39] I really like ISK 3.0, but would it be possible to get a text-only/minimal graphics version? I'd like to take ISK 3.0 with me on my phone, but it's a bit fiddly to read on my phone in its current format. I also agree with other people's comments about the format - A4 would be much better.
PTang	Posted - 2011.02.03 23:43:00 - [40] Edited by: PTang on 03/02/2011 23:43:30 hey if your reading this thread. why do links open in the same window and not a in a new tab? It's really annoying >.< I keep losing my place.

sarah mcjimmy	Posted - 2011.02.04 00:55:00 - [41] Good stuff. Many thanks to all that helped make it
Mortis Astarte	Posted - 2011.02.04 02:11:00 - [42] I know other people have pointed this out but I wanted to make sure the small issues I had were made clear so that they could hopefully be fixed. ] First of all I would like to thank you all for your hard work. The guide is amazing and I have been pimping it to everyone I know, and many I do not in EVE (I even got one person to join EVE just by reading your guide, good job!) I only really have 2 minor complains (which really are one), in your original advertising of the 3.0 edition you said it would be more up to day (which it is) and more easy to use (which it is not). The old guide excelled in the fact that it had very clearly laid out bookmarks and was formated to be read by all readers. The old guides bookmarks was extremely handy given how large the file was. as of now there is no way to jump ahead unless you know the page number, which is even more confusing because "page number" according to the book and "page number" according to the PDF files are not the same. A lot of people use E-Readers (like my droid phone) and does not have the rendering power to keep up with all the pretty pictures, and so we use tools like reflow text that only presents to us the text in a easy to read style. By placing both pages on one screen with no clear devision you have caused e-readers to choke themselves and display text out of order. This renders them useless when viewing this guide. Which makes me sad. Fix those two things, or unlock it so we can, and it will be perfect again!
Chopper Rollins Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.04 10:50:00 - [43] pg 202 gallente bpc agents: items required is just 30 serpentis without the Gold/Silver/Diamond tags after it.
BichHa Phan	Posted - 2011.02.04 13:15:00 - [44] Hi...i downloaded the lite document from the site but was not able to open it. Said the document was locked out and i need to enter password. Im using document viewer software on a CentOS machine. What is the password for this? or where do i go to obtain this password?
Ancy Denaries	Posted - 2011.02.04 14:39:00 - [45] Adding my voice to the A4 format. Also, I've only made it past the first 50 pages, but it's riddled with factual errors and/or misunderstandings here and there. If I can find the real life time, I'll compile a list of errors. Some are even fatal (turrets reduce damage due to signature radius, wtf?) for newbies. Turrets don't reduce damage (DPS perhaps), they do however have a reduced hit chance. Just an example. ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Cy Thorn Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.04 14:52:00 - [46] Edited by: Cy Thorn on 04/02/2011 14:52:08 Aye! Great work on this piece! Stunning visuals and good information. Maybe especially for newbs like myself. Thanks alot!
The Post Man	Posted - 2011.02.04 14:52:00 - [47] Clicking the PDF download link appears to have broken my internet
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.02.04 15:05:00 - [48] Originally by: The Post Man Clicking the PDF download link appears to have broken my internet When you click on the "pdf version" (The zipped is same content) your browser triing to open the whole PDF isntead of DL it. Suggestions: 1. Try a Right click - Save As 2. DL the zip and extract you get the same content :) -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
The Post Man	Posted - 2011.02.04 15:11:00 - [49] Originally by: Laci Originally by: The Post Man Clicking the PDF download link appears to have broken my internet When you click on the "pdf version" (The zipped is same content) your browser triing to open the whole PDF isntead of DL it. Suggestions: 1. Try a Right click - Save As 2. DL the zip and extract you get the same content :) Ah thanks, I'll do that
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.02.04 15:59:00 - [50] Edited by: Laci on 04/02/2011 16:02:01 Originally by: Ancy Denaries Adding my voice to the A4 format. Also, I've only made it past the first 50 pages, but it's riddled with factual errors and/or misunderstandings here and there. If I can find the real life time, I'll compile a list of errors. Some are even fatal (turrets reduce damage due to signature radius, wtf?) for newbies. Turrets don't reduce damage (DPS perhaps), they do however have a reduced hit chance. Just an example. I will thank you when you can send me/us pugreport, we can / will improve the guide witn the corrections. About turret damage: Maybe im wrong, but: "Turret damage is calculated using tracking speed and signature radius. " The used formula is: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Turret_damage -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/

Ancy Denaries	Posted - 2011.02.05 06:41:00 - [51] I just noticed I come across as the biggest prck in the universe in that post. Sorry :D It's actually a masterful piece of work and the art is amazing! I've already shared the guide with pretty much everyone I know :D But yeah, turrets damage over time is certainly affected by that, but the actual HIT damage will not change with signature radius, only the hit RATE (as in how often you hit). If you actually DO manage to hit a frigate with Tachyons, the thing will evaporate. It won't take "lol" damage. As opposed to missiles, where a torpedo will do negligable damage to a frigates shields. Easily testable in game. Park a frigate at 50k and shoot at it with Tachyons. It's gonna take you a few shots, but eventually you will hit it and the thing will be space dust in an instant. ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog Originally by:* CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.02.05 08:26:00 - [52] Originally by: Ancy Denaries I just noticed I come across as the biggest pr*ck in the universe in that post. Sorry :D It's actually a masterful piece of work and the art is amazing! I've already shared the guide with pretty much everyone I know :D But yeah, turrets damage over time is certainly affected by that, but the actual HIT damage will not change with signature radius, only the hit RATE (as in how often you hit). If you actually DO manage to hit a frigate with Tachyons, the thing will evaporate. It won't take "lol" damage. As opposed to missiles, where a torpedo will do negligable damage to a frigates shields. Easily testable in game. Park a frigate at 50k and shoot at it with Tachyons. It's gonna take you a few shots, but eventually you will hit it and the thing will be space dust in an instant. I did a test on test server, looks like the size does matter! http://www.isktheguide.com/test/test.jpg -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
NoNah	Posted - 2011.02.05 08:39:00 - [53] Originally by: Laci I did a test on test server, looks like the size does matter! http://www.isktheguide.com/test/test.jpg According to that screenshot size doesn't matter? The dataset is obviously way to small to decide beyond doubt, but just using the first and the third line suggests that hits of identical quality deals roughly the same damage regardless of size. Of course the average hit quality is lowered by a smaller signature, but there's nothing indicating that the damage is reduced aswell. There's some minor question marks in the guide, I only randomly glanced at pages here and there and things like page 30, where you quote the "exact formula" for recharge rate, while the formula is a very rough estimate and not at all exact. Then there's questionable content, as in you list micro capacitor boosters, even if they're no longer seeded in game and more or less just a collectors item these days. It's of course correct to include them, but you vary greatly between being precise and accurate versus being newbie friendly. All in all a great guide, but if you want things like that pointed out, I'll happily read it through and drop you a mail. =) Parrots, commence! Postcount: 325508
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.02.05 08:44:00 - [54] Originally by: NoNah Originally by: Laci I did a test on test server, looks like the size does matter! http://www.isktheguide.com/test/test.jpg According to that screenshot size doesn't matter? The dataset is obviously way to small to decide beyond doubt, but just using the first and the third line suggests that hits of identical quality deals roughly the same damage regardless of size. Of course the average hit quality is lowered by a smaller signature, but there's nothing indicating that the damage is reduced aswell. There's some minor question marks in the guide, I only randomly glanced at pages here and there and things like page 30, where you quote the "exact formula" for recharge rate, while the formula is a very rough estimate and not at all exact. Then there's questionable content, as in you list micro capacitor boosters, even if they're no longer seeded in game and more or less just a collectors item these days. It's of course correct to include them, but you vary greatly between being precise and accurate versus being newbie friendly. All in all a great guide, but if you want things like that pointed out, I'll happily read it through and drop you a mail. =) Well, thanks for your suggestion(s), I / We will thanks when you can send a "bugreport" to me / us. -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
Zhou Wuwang Federal Laboratories	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:32:00 - [55] Why hasn't this thread been moved to "My EVE" with all the rest of the fan projects? "My EVE Discuss the EVElopedia and share your EVE videos, guides, resources, songs, jokes and more!"
Nyrawin	Posted - 2011.02.06 23:38:00 - [56] Great guide. Thank you very much for developing it.
Leyeneia Kishunuba	Posted - 2011.02.06 23:58:00 - [57] An excellent resource for Noobies like myself. :)
Kethrin Marr	Posted - 2011.02.07 00:00:00 - [58] Originally by: Leyeneia Kishunuba An excellent resource for Noobies like myself. :) Agreed!
Syphon Lodian Gallente	Posted - 2011.02.07 00:21:00 - [59] I would like to buy a glossy hard-copy of this. Put any number on this piece of paper, and I will pay it sir.
Whizz Mo	Posted - 2011.02.07 05:59:00 - [60] A cursory examination yields the following whoopsies: page 270: A) "Ship Data Interfaces" is listed twice in the lower-left corner bulleted list B) "If the used Tech I BPC has max runs, ..." should this be ""If the used Tech I BPC has 10 max runs, ..." , perhaps ? Page 278, under Step 2: "Sleeper NPC" should be "Sleeper BPC", perhaps? Page 229: A) the quantity of Oxides in the first row is 0. Perhaps, 10? B) the icons for Oxides, Coolant, and Condensates in the first row are incorrect. Other than that, this looks to be a fun guide to the mechanics of New Eden. HTH, Whizz

Canteen Charlie	Posted - 2011.02.07 09:57:00 - [61] THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS!! I linked it in the MOTD for our entire alliance. It's a phenomenal tool for new players. My comments are that it looks beautiful and is easy to understand, but like others, had to figure out a way to open it independently in an adobe reader so I could zoom in and that does hurt its effectiveness a bit. I love the look of it and think its chock full of great info!! Thank you for the hard work!!
Neamus	Posted - 2011.02.08 16:55:00 - [62] ISK 3.0 is utter win! Thank you very much for all the hard work you've put into it. When I get a few mins I'll even donate.
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia Warped Aggression	Posted - 2011.03.21 13:01:00 - [63] ISK 3.0, Fanfest, Laci -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
ClimberDave	Posted - 2011.03.21 15:35:00 - [64] I think it looks really nice and is a big improvement. However the double page reading lets it down for me. ISK 2.0 worked quite nicely on my Kindle and was an excellent guide as I was playing as a result, please if there is anyway to change that then that would be great,
Aderata Nonkin Amarr	Posted - 2011.03.21 17:32:00 - [65] A very good guide and great initiative! -)Peace through supreme firepower(-
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia Warped Aggression	Posted - 2011.04.02 11:09:00 - [66] ISK 3.0 Lite goes to EVE Store The guide EVE players have been crying out for since 2003 is finally here! Updated to include changes up to Incursion 1.4, ISK is the most exhaustive guide to EVE ever compiled. No matter whether you are a beginner on a 14-day trial account or a veteran trader; maybe a fierce pirate, a determined miner, a pilot who has years of experience in mission running or a three-month-in noob - there is no pilot who has tried and done everything or knows all there is to know about EVE. Beginner or expert, this Guide - known as the Industrial-Sized Knowledgebase - is for you! Expertly written by a number of specialists in their field, beautifully designed by the EON Magazine team, and officially endorsed by CCP, this guide covers just about everything you can do in EVE. If you need to know something, just look it up in this book. Of course you do not have to commit everything to memory; just open the ISK 3.0 Guide and you will find your answer. EVEÆs infamous learning curve can now be overcome! Note: You are pre-ordering the printed version of ISK 3.0 Lite Edition, updated (Incursion 1.4) from the downloadable pdf currently available from isktheguide.com. In order to receive the $5 pre-order discount during the pre-order period, please apply coupon code ISK305 at checkout. You will be notified by email when your order is dispatched. Oh, and go tell your mates the guide they need is finally here! Pre-Order (EVE Store) -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
Thordina	Posted - 2011.04.02 12:56:00 - [67] Problem 1: the EVE Store lists a shipping rate of 0.00 $ I do not believe that shipping is free Question 1: same format as shown on fanfest (Din A4, Linkage) ? Question 2: till about when is the preorder-period where we can buy it for 30$ ? Question 3: you talked about a premium edition. can you tell us what extras the premium edition will have and when it is planed to be released ? I do not want to be annoyed by buying the lite version and later seeing that the premium edition was some interesting extras for just costing a little more money Question 4: will the updated free pdf (incursion 1.4) be available before the preorder-period ends ?
Jeresy Profile	Posted - 2011.04.02 16:41:00 - [68] Oh i GET IT!! You kill the isk making abilities in .0 and then release this.... good work!!! we need to find new ways to make iskies...!!!!
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.02 17:27:00 - [69] Nice! Pre-ordered ~Gnosis~
Kranwe Sentai Gallente METR0P0LIS	Posted - 2011.04.02 19:55:00 - [70] I will wait for 3.1 since the things I wanted to read werent in 3.0 (yet) - Subsystems - New GUI (ie grouping etc) - Drones shortcuts - Other new very useful GUI shortcuts Nice layout 10/10 Good content 8/10 I'm sure keeping something that massive is a full time job. -------------------------------------------- Intercorporation Diplomat Auditor, Sales Manager Distribution Agent / Providence

Leetha Layne	Posted - 2011.04.02 20:03:00 - [71] Thumb way up!
Purloin Darkly	Posted - 2011.04.03 01:46:00 - [72] Edited by: Purloin Darkly on 03/04/2011 01:47:50 Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but after looking at the PDF version of this guide i notice it mentions nothing about the Incursions that pop up randomly. I presume these NPC incursions where introduced to EVE with the expansion of the same name, and as the ISK 3.0 Guide summary states that this guide is upto date up to the Incursion 1.4 patch I found it a tad suprising there is no mention of these random PvE encounters. I've pre-ordered the Guide anyway in the hopes it will help me get up to speed with the current state of the game and aid me in my first few steps through it (2 weeks and counting), but i'm a touch concerned that if this guide neglects to mention something like this that there maybe other areas of the game not mentioned. Of course I could be wrong and the PDF version is incomplete and the printed one ive so recklessly spent my hard earned ús on will have this information included. I certainly hope so. P.S. I'd love to know when our pre-orders will be shipped, any guesses?
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia Warped Aggression	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:43:00 - [73] That plan has changed a little bit. Instead of æliteÆ and expanded æpremiumÆ editions, we will be publishing two separate print volumes. There are a few reasons, but the main one is that after printing prototype copies of the lite edition, we realized itÆs anything but light. As for the new æPremiumÆ chapters that are in development, they are almost certain to weigh in at another 350-400 pages - another guide in themselves! Ostensibly then, Vol.1 is the current lite edition (although it will be fully updated for Incursion 1.4), the print edition of which, as previewed at Fanfest, is available now on pre-order from the EVE Store for $35. If you apply the checkout code ISK305 during the pre-order period (until April 14th) you will enjoy a $5 discount on your order. As with EON magazine, shipping is from the UK and costs $10 to UK addresses and $15 to all other countries. At 1.5kg itÆs a weighty beast. For those that visited us at Fanfest to talk about the guide, thank you all for your valuable comments. We will be going for a wiro-bound edition, but with more substantial rings and thicker cover stock. The prototypes held up pretty well after three days of near-constant thumbing by hundreds of people, but we will make it sturdier so it can endure the rigours of the modern desktop environment. The free PDF version will remain free, but will be available as both a æDouble Page SpreadÆ version and a æSingle PageÆ version, by popular demand. ISK Vol.2 will focus exclusively on PvP in all itÆs various forms. When we say all forms, we mean of course combat forms. It will be a very comprehensive manual for all levels of ship-to-ship combat, from low-sec piracy to null-sec starbase sieges and fleet engagements, aimed at everyone from the rank-and-file grunt to the high-level fleet commander. It will include guides for all the combat hull types. We will announce availability of Vol.2 in a few weeks. It will almost certainly weigh in the same and cost the same as Vol.1 (with the same pre-order discount). There will be a digital version of Vol.2 but it will not be free. PvP content is pretty good in Vol 1 already, so you shouldnÆt feel short-changed. In Vol.2 it will be more focused around roles and various tactical situations and will be very exhaustive. -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
Laci Jugis Modo Utopia Warped Aggression	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:25:00 - [74] Edited by: Laci on 07/04/2011 11:25:12 Hi, we got a few question related the plans changes. "This has me confused, so you are doing another version of the ISK Guide with the premium chapters added? If so when? IÆm starting to wish I hadnÆt been so hasty in pre-ordering now." The original plan was: we make the lite and a premium version. The plan was: Lite: The current content Premium: The current content + a "pvp guide" THE NEW PLAN: Title: Industrial-Sized Knowledgebase [ISK] - Volume 1 Content: Introduction, mining, ship-fitting, PI, R&D, manufacturing, production, trade, agents, 0.0 life, exploration, starbases Format: Digital download pdf & print Pages: 400 approx Availability: pdf (out now - update pending) - print (late-April 2011) Price: pdf (free), print ($35 + mailing - pre-order discount available) EVE version: Incursion 1.4.1 Title: Industrial-Sized Knowledgebase [ISK] - Volume 2 Content: PvP basics, PvP by system security, PvP by fleet roles, fitting for PvP, PvP by fleet size, tanking in theory and practise, weapons, EW, logistics, ship guides Format: Digital download pdf & print Pages: 400 approx Availability: pdf (summer 2011) - print (summer 2011) Price: pdf (<$30 - TBC), print ($35 approx - TBC) EVE version: TBD If we would stay with the original "premium" content version, then the printed guide would be more than 900 pages which is too big for release (and the printed version would be too expensive. ) If everything goes right, there should be a Dev Blog in a few days (i hope sooner than usual soonÖ)  Fly Safe! Laci -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:54:00 - [75] the invention guide contradicts the wiki ... come on! also it says that beams are high damage weapons when in fact pulses are high dps with trade-off of a short range while beams are lower dps but longer range. I wouldn't recommend this to a newbie, too much misleading information.
KuaFu	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:01:00 - [76] Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe the invention guide contradicts the wiki ... come on! also it says that beams are high damage weapons when in fact pulses are high dps with trade-off of a short range while beams are lower dps but longer range. I wouldn't recommend this to a newbie, too much misleading information. How about re-reading page 96 again before making inaccurate statements?
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:22:00 - [77] Edited by: Mnengli Noiliffe on 07/04/2011 12:25:06 Originally by: KuaFu How about re-reading page 96 again before making inaccurate statements? what's on page 96? I see only damage modules table. Anyway here is the quote from page 90 I was talking about : Quote: Beam Lasers fall in the bigger æappetiteÆ and bigger damage dealing category. Ok it says above this that pulse lasers have higher DPS, but IMO this phrase supersedes that (hence misleading/contradictory), I think it should be stated more clearly that although alpha might be bigger, the theoretical DPS is still less than of equivalent pulse. Maybe it should be stated in the introductory section about all turrets: basically there are 2 kinds of each turret class - 1. close range, high DPS, low alpha, high tracking - blasters, autocannons, pulses. 2. long range, low DPS, high alpha, low tracking - rails, artillery, beams. maybe drop the alpha part, I am not sure it's so for all the cases. just an opinion, sorry if my first post seemed a bit rough.
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:32:00 - [78] Edited by: Mnengli Noiliffe on 07/04/2011 12:32:42 page 269: Quote: If you do not use a decryptor, then it will not matter if the BPC has max runs or not. If you do, then a max run BPC may add +1 run to the result BPC in the case of ships or rigs, and +10 runs in the case of drones, ammunition or modules. wiki says that max run ammo BPC produces 10 run t2 BPC in case of success even without decryptors. I can confirm this, but I did not try less than max run BPC or any decryptors (they're too expensive for ammo invention). However, I hardly believe that using 1 run bpc would as well produce 10 run BPC...
Steve Seninard	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:54:00 - [79] Do people really need a guide to point and click? Good for you guys for making 700 pages of cut and pasted stuff that already exists, but meh....Eve really isn't worthy of a guide that friggin huge. Give us some stuff we don't already know and I'd be all for it. I'm way too lazy to make my own guide, though. So kudos for that.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:38:00 - [80] Nice Laci, looking forward to V2 as well. ~Gnosis~

Laci Jugis Modo Utopia Warped Aggression	Posted - 2011.04.16 05:49:00 - [81] Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe Maybe it should be stated in the introductory section about all turrets: basically there are 2 kinds of each turret class - 1. close range, high DPS, low alpha, high tracking - blasters, autocannons, pulses. 2. long range, low DPS, high alpha, low tracking - rails, artillery, beams. Thanks for the suggestion ;) -------------------------------------------------- http://www.isktheguide.com/
Scorpionidae	Posted - 2011.04.30 12:23:00 - [82] I just Downloaded the Zip and when I clicked open it open a word document but didn't load the guide. And on the online browser verson I could not see most of the text and could not zoom in to see it. Help please I read the version before when it was out and it was really good but now I want to read this one but cant. Scorpionidae
Minorys	Posted - 2011.04.30 12:39:00 - [83] Hi Laci, 1/ Thank you for the hard work, that's an useful guide. 2/ P. 82 : (150/400=0.375) 37.5%, so 62.5% of the charge is eliminated - and not 72.5%. Have fun.
Cylide Askald	Posted - 2011.05.05 10:29:00 - [84] Originally by: Gilroy Marcellus I really like ISK 3.0, but would it be possible to get a text-only/minimal graphics version? I'd like to take ISK 3.0 with me on my phone, but it's a bit fiddly to read on my phone in its current format. I also agree with other people's comments about the format - A4 would be much better. +1 I'd really much like to read one or two chapters while on the bus, but my phone is loading each page for one minute; and that's on a 1GHz CPU. The format doesn't bother me really and my pdf-reader can set bookmarks even on protected pdf. But the loading time is just awful.
Misamo Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.04 06:24:00 - [85] Originally by: J Kunjeh Nice Laci, looking forward to V2 as well. +1
Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp	Posted - 2011.06.04 06:28:00 - [86] Dear all, Due to RL problems please do not write ingame mails to Laci. Most likely you will not get an answer. However if you have any question, problem, feel free to drop him an e-mail. His email is: laci at isktheguide.com Thanks for understanding -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shields are like pants, they're supposed to come off. Armor is like the condom once its gone ur ****ed
Nankeen Heron	Posted - 2011.06.04 06:56:00 - [87] Originally by: Gilroy Marcellus I really like ISK 3.0, but would it be possible to get a text-only/minimal graphics version? I'd like to take ISK 3.0 with me on my phone, but it's a bit fiddly to read on my phone in its current format. I also agree with other people's comments about the format - A4 would be much better. +1; I can view the PDF on my Kindle, but a ISK 3.0 Extra Lite for e-book readers would be cool.
Valentina Gallatoire	Posted - 2011.07.28 15:27:00 - [88] Edited by: Valentina Gallatoire on 28/07/2011 15:27:56 Thanks for this, but it's unreadable on the ipad because of the landscape layout, requiring annoying zooms and horizontal scrolling. If you release a readable (portrait)version or a hardcopy, I'm in!
Marf James	Posted - 2011.08.23 10:48:00 - [89] i was reading the R&D section on research agents and it mentioned agent quality. this doesnt exist anymore and effects the math equation.
Myfanwy Heimdal Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.23 13:39:00 - [90] When this gets published onto Dead Tree then please can we have a better cover and binding which doesn't fall apart on frst reading?



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