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GaUpon
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Posted - 2011.02.01 13:22:00 -
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hi there just a few mins ago a war declared roteus tried to gate camp my armor tank cane though i run away, but it did huge dps on me just wondering is there any chance if cane could beat roteus ? any possible tactics?
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.02.01 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 01/02/2011 13:44:17
A roteus is likely unbeatable, but an active tanked Proteus is very easily dealt with using a shield tanked, dual med neuting Cane. Just have to kite their damage/scram and use your neuts at the right time. (I typically stay at range get a feel for my damage out put vs the targets tank, then only move into neut range once I'm certain I can quickly destroy their tank)
http://www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=138419
If he has webs fit it becomes a bit more problematic specially if he's using faction, but it's still doable, you would just need to keep at max range and just wear him out of cap boosters instead of using the neuts.
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: GaUpon hi there just a few mins ago a war declared roteus tried to gate camp my armor tank cane though i run away, but it did huge dps on me just wondering is there any chance if cane could beat roteus ? any possible tactics?
If the proteus is buffer tanked you wont beat him, and its very iffy with the active tanked version as well. If your in an armor cane though, you will end up dying most of the time.
The shield cane has the ability to not get into scram range and keep the proteus there and work its buffer down but again if he has the scram range subsystem you will find it very difficult not to get scrammed and once that happens he can dictate range on you.
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GaUpon
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:01:00 -
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thanks for that guy it seems like range is the key point i have little knowledge of roteus, so what if the roteus fit with a MWD instead of AB?
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:06:00 -
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if he is fit with an mwd and you try to armor cane him to death, he will web and scram you, you will web and scram him and it will become a whose dps/tank ratio is best contest, which the proteus barring a moron pilot will always win. If he is active tanked, he will jsut tank you and kill you.
If he is mwd fitted and you are shield fitted, if he lands a scram on you he can dictate range due to shield canes generally having only disruptors for tackle, so he can still use his mwd.
If he is ab fitted in either of those situations then the same sort of thing occurs it just takes him longer to cover the ground to get to the shield cane.
If he hasnt got an cap booster fitted though (there are a few out there who dont), a cap boosted armor cane should be able to neut him dry just before the cane dies, meaning he cant shoot you or keep you pointed. This is a big if though.
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: GaUpon thanks for that guy it seems like range is the key point i have little knowledge of roteus, so what if the roteus fit with a MWD instead of AB?
Dictating range is certainly the key point hence why the shield tanked Cane is by far the best option. Assuming you have maxed cap skills you can run the MWD a "very" long time, if you aren't also running the dual neuts. (I get over 3 mins cap time running my MWD & both med neuts)
If using 2x tracking enhancers x 3 gyros you can set your orbit at 17/18km and burn the MWD which will be out side his web/scram/damage range. The biggest thing is to carry enough ammo to break a buffer tank or to run him out of cap charges.
The problem if you can't do cap warfare on him to kill the active tank, he will have all the time in the world to deaggro and either dock up or jump out the gate. Meaning you really need to get him off of a gate or station in order to kill him.
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin
Originally by: GaUpon thanks for that guy it seems like range is the key point i have little knowledge of roteus, so what if the roteus fit with a MWD instead of AB?
Dictating range is certainly the key point hence why the shield tanked Cane is by far the best option. Assuming you have maxed cap skills you can run the MWD a "very" long time, if you aren't also running the dual neuts. (I get over 3 mins cap time running my MWD & both med neuts)
If using 2x tracking enhancers x 3 gyros you can set your orbit at 17/18km and burn the MWD which will be out side his web/scram/damage range. The biggest thing is to carry enough ammo to break a buffer tank or to run him out of cap charges.
The problem if you can't do cap warfare on him to kill the active tank, he will have all the time in the world to deaggro and either dock up or jump out the gate. Meaning you really need to get him off of a gate or station in order to kill him.
Although 17/18km is usually outside overheated scram etc. on a proteus with a friction subsystem thats well within overheated scram range, and once your scrammed your dead
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: GaUpon thanks for that guy it seems like range is the key point i have little knowledge of roteus, so what if the roteus fit with a MWD instead of AB?
Is the "P" on your keyboard missing by any chance?
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Korg Leaf
Originally by: Mutnin
Originally by: GaUpon thanks for that guy it seems like range is the key point i have little knowledge of roteus, so what if the roteus fit with a MWD instead of AB?
Dictating range is certainly the key point hence why the shield tanked Cane is by far the best option. Assuming you have maxed cap skills you can run the MWD a "very" long time, if you aren't also running the dual neuts. (I get over 3 mins cap time running my MWD & both med neuts)
If using 2x tracking enhancers x 3 gyros you can set your orbit at 17/18km and burn the MWD which will be out side his web/scram/damage range. The biggest thing is to carry enough ammo to break a buffer tank or to run him out of cap charges.
The problem if you can't do cap warfare on him to kill the active tank, he will have all the time in the world to deaggro and either dock up or jump out the gate. Meaning you really need to get him off of a gate or station in order to kill him.
Although 17/18km is usually outside overheated scram etc. on a proteus with a friction subsystem thats well within overheated scram range, and once your scrammed your dead
Yes you are correct, but when orbiting at 17/18km with the MWD on it will put you further out closer to 22km. Granted it's still a very tight line to walk and the chances of him landing a scram, specially if he's MWD fit can certainty happen.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:40:00 -
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WTF IS ROTUS?
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:43:00 -
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WTF IS PROTUS?
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Mar Lee
An Army of None
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Posted - 2011.02.02 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon WTF IS ROTUS?
It's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
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TFirish3
The Feynman Syndicate Black Watch.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon WTF IS ROTUS?
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SenshiMaru
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Posted - 2011.02.02 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon WTF IS ROTUS?
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Wurzel Gummidge
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Posted - 2011.02.02 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: SenshiMaru
Originally by: Jovan Geldon WTF IS ROTUS?
Raggy! Ro Nooooeeeez
I can't read and I can't write, but that doesn't really matter, Cos I come from Trowbridge and I can drive a tractor |
Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.02.02 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon WTF IS ROTUS?
----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
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Pneumon Blaster
Quondam Souls of the Universe corporation R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.02.02 14:16:00 -
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WHAT IS WTF?
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.02.02 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Pneumon Blaster WHAT IS WTF?
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Your avatar makes me want to follow you to a rural farmstead, give you all my worldly goods and call you The Aiwha.
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Grut
The Protei
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Posted - 2011.02.02 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Grut on 02/02/2011 17:28:21 Easy;
Mids; Web+TD+TD+Scram
Run away if he's ab fit. Otherwise keep range at 8k, turn everything on then go watch some TV.
Probably wont work near a gate or station as he'll slowboat away before you can end him. Kinsy > deadman you there? Kinsy > are either of us in pods, becase we dont know...
Mostly harmless [ 2005.12.09 19:22:50 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble the Dreadnought |
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