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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.01.26 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Amataras on 26/01/2005 15:18:10
I've always been curious as to what kind of a name is "Jericho Fraction" is. I always assumed that they had misspelled "faction" but I was assured otherwise by other players.
The word "fraction":
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fracĄtion Audio pronunciation of "fraction" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frkshn)
n.
1. Mathematics. An expression that indicates the quotient of two quantities, such as 1/3.
2. A disconnected piece; a fragment.
3. A small part; a bit: moved a fraction of a step.
4. A chemical component separated by fractionation.
So what does this mean?
1. Jericho Mathematical Expression?
2. Jericho Disconnected Fragment?
3. Jericho Small Part?
4. Jericho Chemical Component?
what is the answer? 
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.01.26 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 26/01/2005 15:16:23
Originally by: Amataras
2. Jericho Disconnected Fragment?
I'd guess that this was the intent. When I think of a group that is a Fraction I am thinking along the lines of something like a Splinter Cell.
Um, if you want answers you should probably have put something relivent to the topic in the title. 
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.01.26 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Edited by: Alowishus on 26/01/2005 15:16:23
Originally by: Amataras
2. Jericho Disconnected Fragment?
I'd guess that this was the intent. When I think of a group that is a Fraction I am thinking along the lines of something like a Splinter Cell.
Um, if you want answers you should probably have put something relivent to the topic in the title.
Yes sir 
and you're probably right, just always seemed a bit odd to me 
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Betty Boom
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Posted - 2005.01.26 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: Betty Boom on 26/01/2005 17:10:50
'fraction' comes from latin and you will find the definitions there :)
But 'fraction' is used in the political area for a group inside a party or can be a group of parties.
Edit:
Try the german word 'Fraktion' and look the english definition ;)
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CmdrRat
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Posted - 2005.01.26 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: CmdrRat on 26/01/2005 16:05:31
Jericho Fraction is well known for thier political actions in the northern war. I say the "fraction" def about spliting a political entity is the most "right"
Sad to say for the first few months I watched these forums I just glazed over the word and assumed it to be faction. Your not alone.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.01.26 17:05:00 -
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Hey, Im in the corp and I still say "Faction" sometimes. But thats okay I like the spankings
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Damajink
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Posted - 2005.01.26 17:38:00 -
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theRaptor
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Oh dear.
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.01.26 18:10:00 -
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CFS 2.0?
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.01.26 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Damajink
theRaptor
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Oh dear.
The word 'fraction' is derived from the Latin for 'breaking' and while I am a new member I think of the Fraction as breakers of boundaries: whether they be territorial, philosophical or cultural.
The Cosmopolite
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.01.26 18:32:00 -
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/me seconds the wink issued by The Cosmopolite.
And yeah, the use of "Fraction" can be defined as that the fraction(s) in question are a splinter group from established society. In the field of philosophy there's the "post-human" thoughts, in practical politics there's the rejection of territoriality as a way of achieving true freedom. (Are you really free if you tie yourself down to one system, constellation or region?)
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.01.26 18:45:00 -
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I have to admit , sadly too, that this has always bugged me
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.01.26 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Amataras on 26/01/2005 21:16:38
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Damajink
theRaptor
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Oh dear.
The word 'fraction' is derived from the Latin for 'breaking' and while I am a new member I think of the Fraction as breakers of boundaries: whether they be territorial, philosophical or cultural.
The Cosmopolite
Never thought "fraction" would be latin, doesn't sound very Latin.
Had a root around a dictionary programme but the nearest i could find was:
fragilis - fragile, easily broken, fleeting, transitory
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Betty Boom
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Posted - 2005.01.26 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Amataras
Edited by: Amataras on 26/01/2005 21:16:38
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Damajink
theRaptor
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Oh dear.
The word 'fraction' is derived from the Latin for 'breaking' and while I am a new member I think of the Fraction as breakers of boundaries: whether they be territorial, philosophical or cultural.
The Cosmopolite
Never thought "fraction" would be latin, doesn't sound very Latin.
Had a root around a dictionary programme but the nearest i could find was:
fragilis - fragile, easily broken, fleeting, transitory
All english words, what ends with -ion have roots in Latin.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2005.01.26 23:26:00 -
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Well, you can't really just look at one word and try to eke out the meaning of the whole name. The thing is, though, our name really doesn't have a concrete meaning the way some other corporations names do. Take Band of Builders, for instance. Pretty obvious, and it goes along with their industrial nature. Our name is more symbolic of something else, a feeling as it were.
I'll give you a hint, though. Websters gives one of the definitions of "fraction" as a verb meaning to break up, especially with violence. Now think about that in association with the word "Jericho".
Of course, maybe that's all BS and the name was chosen because it sounds cool. It's all good...
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Kin Oreyn
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Posted - 2005.01.26 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kin Oreyn on 26/01/2005 23:44:16
Latin 101
Fract: break
Ion: act, result, or state of
If you look at the basic roots of the word it's meaning becomes more clear.
"Fraction" was easy, "Jericho" is a bit harder to explain. Jericho I believe comes from the symbolism of breaking down walls. Or the reason it was used may have something to do with the article below. It describes contagious ideas or behaviors known as memes.
If you've got some time on your hands
So basically our name means something like:
Breaking down traditional society(i.e. thinking and behavior)
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2005.01.26 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 26/01/2005 23:37:27
I was in JF for 10mos. I was always under the impression that Jericho Fraction exists as a corp that fights to break down the walls of tyranny.
Namely fighting to break down tyrannical closed space alliances. Like the biblical tale of how the 12 tribes of Israel fell the insurmountable walls of Jericho without having to draw a sword.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2005.01.27 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 26/01/2005 23:37:27
I was in JF for 10mos. I was always under the impression that Jericho Fraction exists as a corp that fights to break down the walls of tyranny.
Namely fighting to break down tyrannical closed space alliances. Like the biblical tale of how the 12 tribes of Israel fell the insurmountable walls of Jericho without having to draw a sword.
Yeah, that's what I meant. I always thought JF was anti-Alliance, now they've formed their own one. Also kind of ironic that they had a hand in destroying 3 alliances, only to have one big single one take over
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Kin Oreyn
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Posted - 2005.01.27 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Damajink
Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 26/01/2005 23:37:27
I was in JF for 10mos. I was always under the impression that Jericho Fraction exists as a corp that fights to break down the walls of tyranny.
Namely fighting to break down tyrannical closed space alliances. Like the biblical tale of how the 12 tribes of Israel fell the insurmountable walls of Jericho without having to draw a sword.
Yeah, that's what I meant. I always thought JF was anti-Alliance, now they've formed their own one...
You seem a bit confused, anti-alliance and anti-territorialism are completely different things.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2005.01.27 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kin Oreyn
Originally by: Damajink
Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 26/01/2005 23:37:27
I was in JF for 10mos. I was always under the impression that Jericho Fraction exists as a corp that fights to break down the walls of tyranny.
Namely fighting to break down tyrannical closed space alliances. Like the biblical tale of how the 12 tribes of Israel fell the insurmountable walls of Jericho without having to draw a sword.
Yeah, that's what I meant. I always thought JF was anti-Alliance, now they've formed their own one...
You seem a bit confused, anti-alliance and anti-territorialism are completely different things.
What's the point of an alliance if you don't claim territory? Anything else, a single corp can do by itself.
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.01.27 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Damajink
What's the point of an alliance if you don't claim territory? Anything else, a single corp can do by itself.
Actually, that is where you a wrong imho. A group of smaller corporations working independantly towards the same group goal can cover more bases and deal with more problems a lot faster, and a lot more efficiently than just one big corp.
Think of BoB - not officially an alliance, and they aren't all one corp, but everyone is scared ****less of them.
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Ryoji Tanakama
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Posted - 2005.01.27 10:02:00 -
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Edited by: Ryoji Tanakama on 27/01/2005 10:08:05
Jericho = city who's walls were brought down
Fraction = to break up
Rough translation of Jericho Fraction = to break apart political, economic and territorial boundaries.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2005.01.27 11:34:00 -
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It helps to think of Star Fraction as an alliance of people and ideas. It isn't our intention to draw any circles around patches of space and call it our own.
It's neither mine nor yours.
It's everyone's
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Atandros
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Posted - 2005.01.27 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Azure Skyclad
It helps to think of Star Fraction as an alliance of people and ideas. It isn't our intention to draw any circles around patches of space and call it our own.
It's neither mine nor yours.
It's everyone's
It should be added, though, that this choice is not taken on the grounds of altruism, or because of the "greater good", or for any such worthless little excuses for ideas - it is because we recognize the potential profit to be gained by trading with equals, as opposed to the brute, stagnant inefficiency of miner/fighter castes and locked space systems. The territorialists, in their claims that holding territory for themselves allows them greater profits, would be correct if they were talking about a single asteroid belt, not an entire region that practically cannot be covered (or several of them!); it would in fact be far more profitable to allow mining in unused belts and give incentives to sell the ore locally.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.01.27 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 27/01/2005 12:27:22
Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 27/01/2005 12:24:17
Originally by: Kin Oreyn
Jericho I believe comes from the symbolism of breaking down walls.
Yah, wasn't it the regent of ancient Jericho that tore down his city walls to show that he was still confident in his strength and durability even without such a restrictve structure? Or was that Sparta? Hmm...
Andyway, it's kind of like how Neo waves Agent Smith to come give him a beating. Take a risk, knowing that you have an aimbot.
Originally by: Damajink
Yeah, that's what I meant. I always thought JF was anti-Alliance, now they've formed their own one.
Originally by: Kin Oreyn
You seem a bit confused, anti-alliance and anti-territorialism are completely different things.
And here we have an extremely telling example of why a corporation like Jericho, and an alliance like Star Fraction, is necessary. I find it ludicrous, but people seem to think that the only reason ever to create an alliance would be to put up tentpoles in some chokepoint system so you can shout "waaawaaah mineminemine geddawaaaaaay" or something. Why?
The alliance system offers many other things:
- Alliance chat
- Unified political relations
- Mutual defence capabilities
- A reason to, once again, in a new way, demonstrate to people that restrictive territoriality isn't the only way for people to co-operate.
EDIT: In other words, the only motive for co-operation is not rampant ganking of neutral traders, or ego-fullfillment by slapping a few regions with your name on them. Other reasons for co-operation can be simple friendship, camaraderie, mutual goals and aspirations and ... PROFIT! Veterans of previous freespace territories can inform you that in spite of the propaganda coming from territorialists, those areas were never even close to being cleansed as if by locusts. And NPC's don't deplete...
(I would love to have a supply contract with the Guristas though, then I could earn money both by blowing them up for bounties as well as selling them ships built with recycled loot, which I then would blow up, rinse and repeat.)
EDIT2: And to make one thing a bit more clear to ex-CA people and such, on the profit motive: did you make money when sitting at a gatecamp in HLW for hours? No? I wonder why...
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.01.27 17:13:00 -
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my thread was hijacked 
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.01.27 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: Burga Galti on 27/01/2005 22:45:10
It's not hijacked, my corpmates are plainly just going above and beyond the original request for clarification.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2005.01.27 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Burga Galti
Edited by: Burga Galti on 27/01/2005 22:45:10
It's not hijacked, my corpmates are plainly just going above and beyond the original request for clarification.
All alts of Jade?
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meowcat
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:55:00 -
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FACTION.
FACTION.
FACTION FACTION FACTION.
Personally i would disband the corp and start it again. But i'm pedantic like that.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2005.01.28 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: meowcat
FACTION.
FACTION.
FACTION FACTION FACTION.
Personally i would disband the corp and start it again. But i'm pedantic like that.
(I send text messages with perfect grammar, punctuation and spelling).
Sup spelling fascist buddy. 
As for our name, rest assured it's quite intentional.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2005.01.28 02:34:00 -
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Edited by: Atandros on 28/01/2005 02:44:50
Edited by: Atandros on 28/01/2005 02:35:25
Originally by: Damajink
Originally by: Burga Galti
Edited by: Burga Galti on 27/01/2005 22:45:10
It's not hijacked, my corpmates are plainly just going above and beyond the original request for clarification.
All alts of Jade?
Ah m'dear, I don't think your banal little verbal vandalisms are credited with the slightest gravitas or importance by anyone here; allow me to confide that such anemic, paltry accusations as these do nought but serve to undermine your own position.
EDIT: Disregard this post!
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