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Tom Gerard
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Posted - 2011.02.01 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tom Gerard on 01/02/2011 17:22:21
According to my psychologist the reason people play video games past the age of nine (the medically relevant age for people to stop playing video games) is because they were neglected by their parents.
EDIT: My opinion is clearly a 'NO' but then again I am seeing a psychologist so I might be 'nuttier than a bighorn dropping'
Whats your opinion?
Did your parents ruin your life?
Is super mario really more dangerous than injecting yourself with cleaning solution?
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James Tiberius Kirk
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Posted - 2011.02.01 17:25:00 -
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Depends on lots of things, the social environment for example. If a kid has bunch of friends who plays video games, he'll play video games too.
I'd say change your psychologist, he is full of ****.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2011.02.01 17:26:00 -
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The key has been and always will be moderation.
I played computer games as a kid about as much as i did anything else that was fun as a kid.
It wasnt because of anything other than playing a freinds console/pc and enjoying it.
no im not seeing a psychologist, but that doesnt mean i shouldnt :P
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Jarek Cyphus
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Posted - 2011.02.01 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: James Tiberius Kirk Depends on lots of things, the social environment for example. If a kid has bunch of friends who plays video games, he'll play video games too.
I'd say change your psychologist, he is full of ****.
This.
I enjoyed my Sonic the Hedgehog and Super Mario as a kid, but I still had friends with whom I played ball in the park. I still play video games, but still know when to walk away from it and hang out with my best buds. That people are still trying to paint video games as the villain in childhood development is the biggest crock society has to offer. It's just a mouthy doctor who detests video games trying to make a quick buck.
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ZeJesus
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Posted - 2011.02.01 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: ZeJesus on 01/02/2011 17:32:32
It is true that I had spent a lot of time alone since my parents had full-day jobs so, short of a better idea, I played games to no end, read sci-fi books and listened to audiobooks 
It's hard (impossible) to get rid of old habits.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.01 17:40:00 -
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Just remember that a psychologist is an enabler in a co-dependent relationship, but tries to remove you from all such relationships, except for yours and theirs.
And they take money for it. And aren't MD's.
A psychiatrist would have a more relevant opinion, and I wouldn't give a **** about theirs either.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:08:00 -
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My parents are the best human beings on earth, qualitatively speaking. I could not ask for a better family. I like video games because *I* like video games, not because of anything my folks did or did not do.
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Rhinanna
Minmatar Volition Cult -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:15:00 -
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1> Ask him to provide proof/unbias studies showing this 2> Ask him if he thinks over 25% of the under 40 population fall into this category, since thats about the % that regularly play video games (rough number but taken from a recent survey in the UK) 3> Ask him what he thinks about the studies that show video games are shown to increase a person's ability to reason and understand complex information. 4> Tell him hes sacked and you are going to find someone who actually has the slightest clue what hes talking about. -The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it. Drenzul (My normal internet tag) |

De'Veldrin
Minmatar Self Preservation Society the 2nd Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:17:00 -
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Wow, some bites on this one.
I'll call it a 4 --Vel
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Mina Hiragi
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Gerard According to my psychologist
Your psychologist better not go hunting with **** Cheney.
Quack, quack quack quack *boom*
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:24:00 -
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Yes Tom, you are.
I recommend at least a three month retreat to a mountain cave. Maybe longer.
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Your avatar makes me want to follow you to a rural farmstead, give you all my worldly goods and call you The Aiwha.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin Wow, some bites on this one.
I'll call it a 4
Sometimes, a fish bites the bait just to find out what it tastes like.
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Ninusi UbarSarum
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:33:00 -
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Playing games is a natural way for people (animals too) to practice their skills in a relaxed and stimulating manner.
Apparently your psychologist has missed a couple of essential lessons during his education.
Additonally, there is no such thing as 'a medical relevant age for playing video games'. As a ****laude psychology graduate (with a specialty in educational psychology) I would advise your psychologist to stop mixing his personal feelings with his professional opinions, or perhaps do some real background research.
I would ask your psychologist about the statistic that more than 50% of psychology students start their study because they believe something is wrong with them mentally, or they have someone in their direct family that they consider mentally abnormal.
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Cadhla Ovsanna
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:37:00 -
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yeah i deff don't think that's a valid reason as to why so many people play video games past nine... i wasnt neglected i was choked to death with family time all the time growing up and yet im 20 almost 21 and play eve. so. i think its bull****! lol Sig removed, inappropriate content. Signature graphics may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to EVE Online. All content must be in good taste ~Saint |

Hienz Doofenshmirtz
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:45:00 -
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I am a tin foil hat wearing crazy old hermit, however this is not a result of playing video games. Acctually video games have assisted in my socalization with the outside world. My older sister has a masters in psychology she also plays video games, and isn't crazy.
routinely when I was a kid my mom would kick us out of the house and make us go play with our friends. my dad played games with us.
so yeah please have you doctor go back and check his research, just because you play video games doesn't mean your parents don't love you, maybe you play video games because your parents loved you too much and you are rebeling against them
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Turzyx
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:48:00 -
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I had a very happy childhood with loving parents and a stable home.
I play loads of video games.
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Buck Marui
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.02.01 18:48:00 -
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What does your psychologist say about posting crap on an internet forum day in and day out? |

Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:38:00 -
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Tell him to STFU until he gets an M.D., and where did he/she go to school? Cause anyone with a degree from there I assume to be toilet paper now.
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Ingvar Angst
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Gerard Edited by: Tom Gerard on 01/02/2011 17:22:21
According to my psychologist the reason people play video games past the age of nine (the medically relevant age for people to stop playing video games) is because they were neglected by their parents.
EDIT: My opinion is clearly a 'NO' but then again I am seeing a psychologist so I might be 'nuttier than a bighorn dropping'
Whats your opinion?
Did your parents ruin your life?
Is super mario really more dangerous than injecting yourself with cleaning solution?
I'd be curious to see the articles he wrote stating the evidence for this hypothesis in peer-reviewed journals and the responses he received. Beyond that, it sounds like he's stating opinon as fact.
Run away. Your shrink is crazy.
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Kiandoshia
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:47:00 -
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Hey this guy may be right Oo My mum drank or still drinks, no idea, my dad used to work from 8am until 8pm and I play video games at 22 
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Alexanys
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Alexanys on 01/02/2011 19:57:50 Its just like everything else having to do with video games, the mainstream ( your doctor ) sees them as a complete and utter waste of time. Thats the reality that alot of gamers are in denial about, sure its fun to play and I love games more than anyone, but they are not accepted socially in the U.S the same way they are in Japan. People that don't play see you spending 2+ hours in front of the PC and think that time is better spent either studying, watching Jersey Shore, working out, or getting a part time job. I been to peoples houses that hang up their favorite football teams flag on walls, or hang up pics of famous sports moments and that's perfectly fine, everybody loves it, but hang up a picture of something from our culture like a Rifter or w/e and you are seen as a child.
Its gotten to the point where I have resolved to pretty much keep my gaming a secret at least from the women I meet..But that's me coming to terms with reality, socially...its not ok to be a gamer.
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:54:00 -
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Quote: front of the PC and think that time is better spent either studying, watching Jersey Shore, working out, getting a part time job
I would say 3 out of the 4 are actually more useful endeavors. Poor choice of options.
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Manji Lee
Gallente Woopatang
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:56:00 -
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Both my parents were complete drunks and lunatics. Yet, I didn't start playing video games until I was highschool. Matter of fact, the only reason why I started was because we used to rig quake 3 lan parties in the school library during the after hours of schools. I call complete bull**** on the psychologist. - Got any tinfoil? |

Alexanys
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Blacksquirrel
Quote: front of the PC and think that time is better spent either studying, watching Jersey Shore, working out, getting a part time job
I would say 3 out of the 4 are actually more useful endeavors. Poor choice of options.
So you don't like working out?
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Trollgore
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:59:00 -
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.02.01 20:04:00 -
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Quote: So you don't like working out?
Sitting through Jersey Shore isn't a work out? I struggle to contain my rage just hearing about that show or it's "cast"
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Aion Amarra
Minmatar Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.01 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Aion Amarra on 01/02/2011 20:06:35 Point out to him the amount of 12+, 16+ or 18+ games on the market. Point out to him the sales figures some of them achieve.
Apparently the entire world is neglected or something.
EDIT: Only now noticed that this is a Tom Gerard thread. Joke on me.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.02.01 20:09:00 -
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[citation needed] |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2011.02.01 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mina Hiragi
Originally by: Tom Gerard According to my psychologist
Your psychologist better not go hunting with **** Cheney.
Quack, quack quack quack *boom*
best post in a good long while  |

Eternum Praetorian
True Creation The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.02.01 20:50:00 -
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Posting Relevant Information In An Obvious Troll Thread
The current figure seems to be 63%, ages 15 - 65.
(According to my quick Google/Wiki/Internet Warrior skills)  |

Alotta Baggage
Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.02.01 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Mina Hiragi
Originally by: Tom Gerard According to my psychologist
Your psychologist better not go hunting with **** Cheney.
Quack, quack quack quack *boom*
best post in a good long while 
Agreed /thread and best quote in 2011  |

Durnin Stormbrow
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Gerard According to my psychologist the reason people play video games past the age of nine (the medically relevant age for people to stop playing video games) is because they were neglected by their parents.
So what would this psychologist say about a 42 year old that plays video games with his 12 year old son, having learned the love of video games by playing them with his dad?
Is it a family tradition of active neglect?
Man, brings back memories thoughà How many remember the days when playing the good video games involved taping an overlay to the TV?
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ShadowLZ
Minmatar We See Dead People Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Durnin Stormbrow
Man, brings back memories thoughà How many remember the days when playing the good video games involved taping an overlay to the TV?
I imagine one of the few 330,000 people who actually owned a magnavox odyssey. |

Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:21:00 -
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Well being 41 and playing, hmm I wonder about your psycologist.
I'll admit if I was married and had children though I probably would not play, as the family would take to much time. |

Fouljin
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:31:00 -
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When I was kid there was no Videogames! Now than Im old and all grown up, I like to entertain my self with videogames. I don't watch much TV but I read alot books. I play about 2 hours per day. On weekends more (mostly eve)
I think your shrink is just oldfashioned and if theres actual medical statement that kids should drop videogames after age nine of they are mental is just..... Most kids GET theirs games after age of nine! |

RiskyFrisky
Under the Table Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:38:00 -
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I'd say your psychologist is a ****ing idiot and needs to be fired. |
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CCP Fallout

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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:39:00 -
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Moved to OOPE from GD |
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Seishi Maru
Organization for Nuclear Research
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Gerard Edited by: Tom Gerard on 01/02/2011 17:22:21
According to my psychologist the reason people play video games past the age of nine (the medically relevant age for people to stop playing video games) is because they were neglected by their parents.
EDIT: My opinion is clearly a 'NO' but then again I am seeing a psychologist so I might be 'nuttier than a bighorn dropping'
Whats your opinion?
Did your parents ruin your life?
Is super mario really more dangerous than injecting yourself with cleaning solution?
change psychologist. FAST
I've been doing therapy for 6 years.. with 3 professionals and when i wanted to simply stop playing video games, what I heard was.. basically.. that is STUPID.. you should not stop doing something you enjoy and that is not causing you any harm neither making you neglect your life.
Your psycologist is simply incompetent.. or he would say that playing chess is only for children? You know.. since both are mental challenge games that exploit a fake representation of reality to put you in some sort of competition.
Or is he the type that thinks an adult life should be only WORK WORK and alcohol? Sure.. that is much more healthy :/ |

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 01/02/2011 22:56:01 When I was a kid in the 80's I lived in a commuter town - Redditch (named after the bubonic plague - classy eh) outside of Birmingham. It was one of a lot of new towns in England. New houses were built with grassy plains in between. Now a lot of the grassy spaces have been built on. But in the early 80's it was idyllic for a kid. Safe for kids to roam around. Build dens in the woody areas. Cycle all over the place away congested main roads.
I had a Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k with a tape loader. I played some games but I spent most of the time out and about playing. Also playing with Lego, Zoids and watching kids tv. The 80's was a brilliant time for cartoons - Transformers, Dog Tanian, Ullyses, etc. And then parents left their front doors unlocked. We could go into our friends houses. Now kids TV is worse and they play to much computer games. Instead parents should say go out and play. But a lot of people see groups of kids as trouble. There should be more youth clubs started in cities with sports that cater for all. Including boxing and martial arts. I think teaching kids how to use force with restraint is maturing.
That time of my life was in retrospect very good. There was so many things for me to do in a peaceful small commuter town. When the family moved to Sutton Coldfield, a prosperous town in Birmingham in which I felt dislocated from 1986 and I still do now. And in years gone I noticed the stuffy attitude of a lot of people Sutton Coldfield folk who thought part of aspiration also meant turning into a stiff. Outside of Birmingham there is Tamworth. Another commuter town similar to Redditch. I had a job there for 18 months. The people there are more easy going and breezy.
/Now I have no social life and spent most of my life in the computer room duh.
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Flesh Slurper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:56:00 -
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I play video games because they are a better use of my unallocated time than mindlessly watching TV and have a good price to performance ratio in entertainment value. |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Slurper I play video games because they are a better use of my unallocated time than mindlessly watching TV and have a good price to performance ratio in entertainment value.
Thanks a lot, jackass. You just had to go and make sense, didn't you. Now we'll have to review everything. |

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 02/02/2011 00:18:25 However possible it is that the opinion of your psychologist could be possible for some, very small number, in the gaming world, he would be hard pressed to find anything in the peer reviewed literature that would support his claims as an acceptable conclusion to use for the whole population.
You should tell him to read the literature on the importance of gmaes in the develoment of man.
I would also be interested in their viewpoint of the pre-history of games before video-games. Considering that most of these types of games occured away from parental supervision at a time were kids spent most of their time out of the house and away from their parents as pointed out with the below quote from Grau, Oliver (2004). Virtual Art. MIT Press. ISBN 978-0-262-57223-1. Gathered from a wiki sight on Gmae Studies, last paragraph. I can not link the original content since my access to the local Uni database is non-existant 
"Videogame pre-historyThere is now also an emerging field of study (Oliver Grau, 2004, and others) that looks at the "pre-history" of video games, and at the branch of their roots that lie in: fairground attractions and sideshows such as shooting games; early "Coney Island"-style pleasure parks with elements such as large roller-coasters and "haunted house" simulations; nineteenth century landscape simulations such as dioramas, panoramas, planetariums, and stereographs; and amusement arcades that had mechanical game machines and also peep-show film machines.[12]"
Games have been important to man for thousands of years and just because you play them into adulthood does not automatically mean that you were neglected as a child.
EDIT: That being said, due to your confidnetial relationships with your psychologist, we do not have all the same information as he does, so he may be dead on in his evalutaion.
Slade
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Plentyn Annwn
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Posted - 2011.02.02 00:42:00 -
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Wait...I was neglected as a child? Damn my parents, and damn everyone else for not telling me sooner.
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.02.02 00:52:00 -
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My mommy never loved me!!!! 
Originally by: Magnus Andronicus ur character looks like a f***ing clown dude.
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ivar R'dhak
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Posted - 2011.02.02 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Alotta Baggage My mommy never loved me!!!! 
That¦s tragic, because you look like something only a mother could love. 
Oh and @ OP: GET A FRICKEN NEW PSYCHODOC ASAP! The Video Game Industry: An $18 Billion Entertainment Juggernaut
This guy is a clown. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Mister Cletus
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Posted - 2011.02.02 02:44:00 -
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I had a stable home life as a child. In fact, I was forced to use my imagination for physical play because I did not own a game console or computer until I was 26.
I play now to escape. Escape from what, you ask? I am married 10 years and have 4 year old kids. Need I say more?
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2011.02.02 05:55:00 -
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Sounds like something Jack Thompson would say.
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Milla Lekarariba
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Posted - 2011.02.02 17:57:00 -
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I dont think its as clear cut as the report you mention says..
Just playing computer games beyound the age of 9...... no
I think it depends on the amount of time spent playing computer games compared to the amount of time doing , for the lack of a better phrase 'more normal things'
If anything I think I can see a reverse of what is mentioned Gaming in correct doses can be good for you!
The problem is not the gaming itself, just in the same way gambling has been demonized, its ok until it becomes an addiction
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Star NL
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Posted - 2011.02.02 21:50:00 -
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I was an overachiever in school and didnt really get into video games until I had a breakdown from too much stress at the age of 23. I moved to Holland, cut my hair, found a man that would put up with me and delved into the world of gaming. Been happier and more relaxed ever since.
Oh and by the way my parents are both psychologists....
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Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.02.02 22:50:00 -
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Hahahahahahahaha! Hehehehe! *inhaaaale* *chuckles*
stupid idiots.
I had to talk with a psychologist once for a job, and when I mentioned that I basically had as many friends online as offline... well... that's what the rest of the interview was focused on... "but you can't meet people on the internet. you can't have a conversation on the internet. you can't get to know people on the internet. are you asocial?"
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.02.02 23:13:00 -
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Twice I have taken a psychometric test for job interviews. Both times then said I did it wrong. Well they should have had a tick box for cylons 
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