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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.05.30 17:10:00 -
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In belgium we have a similar arrangement although it used to be 10 gigs now it is 100 gigs a month.
Eve's bandwith use was negligable compared to all my other uses. I don't think it will/shall/does make much of an impact.
HOWEVER, patches and live streaming of fanfest/alliances tournament in HD will :)
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A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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SonOTassadar
Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2011.05.30 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: SonOTassadar on 30/05/2011 17:30:17
Edited by: SonOTassadar on 30/05/2011 17:29:18
Seems like you got a direct answer here based on people monitoring it, but just for future reference:
EvE started beta testing in 2002, I think (official release was 2003). In 2002, 33.6 kilobaud modems were just starting to become obsolete. 56k was mainstream, and ISDN/DSL/Cable/other broadband services were relatively new and expensive. On the bandwidth side, only improvements have been made (see CCP's "need for speed" blogs and patch notes). If it weren't for the fact that there are now some 40x as many players on now than there was at release, this game could still be played on a 33.6k modem. You could do it, but there would most likely be a horrible delay undocking at any remotely busy station, and forget about trade hubs or fleet warfare.
It takes days for a 56k to download items that are several GBs in size, whereas mid and high tier broadband plans today can do it often in less than an hour, so EvE would likely not be a relevant factor in trying to limit how much data you send and receive if you're worried about your bandwidth cap.
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ACESsiggy
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.30 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: ACESsiggy on 30/05/2011 17:49:49
 Originally by: Playing Eve
Originally by: ACESsiggy
Dude I have CHARTER and I do not have any 'badwidth limit.' The service that I pay for is 20Mb Down and 3.0up without limits and I've never heard of a U.S. cable company doing this (well the cable company's that I've purchased services from).
Charter's bandwidth limits are in their terms of service. Even if the agreement you signed when you got your service (they've had the cap for about a year) didn't have the limits, there is probably a clause in it saying that they can change them at their whim and to refer to the online terms of service. Maybe you just haven't hit the cap.
So I wanted to confirm your statement about this and I contacted Character's customer service, the services I pay for do not have this "bandwidth limit"...... must only suck for you  << not trolling you either but it must suck if you have a limit lol
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Gedid Tava
Gallente
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.05.31 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ciar Meara
HOWEVER, patches and live streaming of fanfest/alliances tournament in HD will :)
That's pretty much the key. Refer back to post 99 and the Austin, TX faq. Research done when that was actually relevant showed the average cable internet user rarely broke over 1GB/mo. Usage broke down into four segments. Roughly 80%, 15%, 5%, 0.1%.
Average 1GB/mo (gaming+net, no streaming).
Light streaming 25GB/mo (g+n + non hd streaming).
Heavy streaming 100GB/mo (g+n + nightly hd streaming).
Unauthorized commercial or "Usenet archival" 250GB-1TB/mo.
Looking at cable specifically, the single digit percentage of users breaking the 100GB/mo line were the ones that actually caused problems for providers. Bandwidth, despite the illusion, is not an unlimited resource. At a single moment, your pipe can only handle so many electrons. It is a physically limited medium. The only options are to change your medium (fiber) or change your algorithm (DOCSIS 3).
Taking the research into account, gaming only will endanger caps when it comes to digital distribution. For major providers, gaming will almost never be the sole contributor to pipe saturation. App and patch downloads can be a part of it but, really, it's streaming media and sustained data rates that DOCSIS 2 and lesser mediums/algorithms were not designed to handle.
If your ISP has small caps (under 50GB/mo) then just use your head. Keep the hd streaming to a minimum and stagger your digital game purchases or, if you can, buy disc versions of new products.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Gedid Tava
Originally by: Ciar Meara
HOWEVER, patches and live streaming of fanfest/alliances tournament in HD will :)
That's pretty much the key. Refer back to post 99 and the Austin, TX faq. Research done when that was actually relevant showed the average cable internet user rarely broke over 1GB/mo.
First there was Steam and ISP's started to get worried.
And then YouTube, Vimeo, Vodo, iPlayer, 4oD, NetFlix, LoveFilm and such appeared and ISP's could be found crying in the corner whilst smoke came out of the routers.
It's been a light month and my counter is sat at 40Gb. None of that illegal, some of it is P2P though (love me that Pioneer One). Just using the internet as a primary source for entertainment.
1Gb/month... I'd probably have to torrent all my shows and build a central server instead of us watching the HD streams at different times.
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NOVA-STAR
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Posted - 2011.05.31 04:15:00 -
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ppl in canada pay twice as much for their Internet and triple times as much over cell phone bills than the united states. the country is being completely molested.
I looked for alternatives for ISPs because I needed to switch. But there is NOBODY that offers Internet cause they're all american ISP companies here, it's all really expensive or BAD deals. SHAW and AT&T/BELL/ROGERS etc. suck, all of them are money baggers that are just taking the money out of the country to the states. Our GOV is really stupid.
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Internet Knight
The Kobayashi Maru
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Posted - 2011.05.31 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Yokai
It will take another week or so to get some of this out to the thread... but I will post here when I have it.
In the mean time, control-alt-shift-m will let you monitor it yourself. |
Catheryn Martobi
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Posted - 2011.05.31 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: NOVA-STAR
ppl in canada pay twice as much for their Internet and triple times as much over cell phone bills than the united states. the country is being completely molested.
I looked for alternatives for ISPs because I needed to switch. But there is NOBODY that offers Internet cause they're all american ISP companies here, it's all really expensive or BAD deals. SHAW and AT&T/BELL/ROGERS etc. suck, all of them are money baggers that are just taking the money out of the country to the states. Our GOV is really stupid.
I wish they were bringing it here, but after a company becomes as international as AT&T they keep their money wherever they don't have to pay taxes for it.
I really hate the direction we are heading with our ISPs in the States though. I don't see the cap implementation as a last resort, just another stepping stone to prevent piracy so Hollywood doesn't come for them in the night. Luckily Verizon still has no caps and some pretty decent fiber and mostly doesn't give two ****s if I am seeding or not. I anticipate caps for every ISP within five years though. |
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