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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:12:00 -
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In other words:
Our logs have never recorded an error.
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:28:00 -
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did you know autopilot settings is not recorded by CCP's fantastic logs?
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Frau Klaps
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:34:00 -
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Why should they, it's client side.
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Rubet Gold
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:37:00 -
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My logs show everything you have been doing, very odd, your actions must be getting redirected to my machine.
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: zz01shagsme on 02/02/2011 20:41:38
"a.Ships lost in NPC combat may be replaced in cases where a bug has been verified through GM investigation as the cause. Such reimbursement would only be done at the discretion of a GM.
b.Ships lost during PVP combat may be replaced only in cases where a bug has been verified as the cause of the loss. Such reimbursement would only be done after an investigation and at the discretion of a GM.
c.Losses caused due to disconnection as a direct result of a server node drop or an unannounced server downtime may be reimbursed pending investigation by, and at the discretion of, a GM. Ships lost due to lag or non-server related disconnection will not be reimbursed.
d.Ships destroyed by use of the "self destruct" feature, whether intentionally or accidentally, cannot be reimbursed."
If it's something they do not track then how are they suppose to reimburse in the event of autopilot being the cause of the loss?
i think GM's don't like me becuase i keep being told to read this and im lost at what exactly their logs show and what investigation they do actually do. AND in my case if its something they do not track then how can they investigate?
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Ingvar Angst
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:42:00 -
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 Originally by: zz01shagsme
"a.Ships lost in NPC combat may be replaced in cases where a bug has been verified through GM investigation as the cause. Such reimbursement would only be done at the discretion of a GM."
If it's something they do not track then how are they suppose to reimburse in the event of autopilot being the cause of the loss?
Autopilot doesn't cause the loss. People using autopilot causes the loss.
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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc.
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:42:00 -
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Explaining instead of whining might be useful.
I'm going to take a few guesses.
1) You autopiloted through an incursion constellation and died.
2) You autopiloted through a low sec system and died.
3) You autopiloted through a gate camp and died.
4) You autopiloted through a null sec system and died.
5) You autopiloted and died.
6) Your autopilot had a never before seen or encountered catastrophic failure through no fault of your own and... you died.
Which was it?
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: XenosisReaper
Explaining instead of whining might be useful.
I'm going to take a few guesses.
1) You autopiloted through an incursion constellation and died.
2) You autopiloted through a low sec system and died.
3) You autopiloted through a gate camp and died.
4) You autopiloted through a null sec system and died.
5) You autopiloted and died.
6) Your autopilot had a never before seen or encountered catastrophic failure through no fault of your own and... you died.
Which was it?
Autopilot 10 jumps in a freigher every alternate day no need to go to low sec but ended up in it after i patched my client.
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Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:46:00 -
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There are very few cases (none at all I can think of off the top of my head) where loosing a ship dew to autopilot is not your own fault.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: zz01shagsme
If it's something they do not track then how are they suppose to reimburse in the event of autopilot being the cause of the loss?
Obviously the autopilot is so unlikely to be the cause of your loss that they don't bother logging it.
If anyone else but you would have reportet a bug, then there actually might be one - but since it's only you it's most likely your fault.
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Idicious Lightbane
There are very few cases (none at all I can think of off the top of my head) where loosing a ship dew to autopilot is not your own fault.
Obviously you were not around before the last last last may one more last - patch where autopilot caused many issues.
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nika Dekaia
Originally by: zz01shagsme
If it's something they do not track then how are they suppose to reimburse in the event of autopilot being the cause of the loss?
Obviously the autopilot is so unlikely to be the cause of your loss that they don't bother logging it.
If anyone else but you would have reportet a bug, then there actually might be one - but since it's only you it's most likely your fault.
A few years ago but i haven't been the only one
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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc.
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: zz01shagsme
Originally by: XenosisReaper
Explaining instead of whining might be useful.
I'm going to take a few guesses.
1) You autopiloted through an incursion constellation and died.
2) You autopiloted through a low sec system and died.
3) You autopiloted through a gate camp and died.
4) You autopiloted through a null sec system and died.
5) You autopiloted and died.
6) Your autopilot had a never before seen or encountered catastrophic failure through no fault of your own and... you died.
Which was it?
Autopilot 10 jumps in a freigher every alternate day no need to go to low sec but ended up in it after i patched my client.
No. you didn't. You put the wrong destination in, maybe you were tired/drunk/high/stupid.
Nobody else has reported this issue and if it were a patch issue everybody would be cramming the general board with cries of DOOOOOOOM.
Refresh your cache, and man up. The autopilot is client side anyway so they won't have any logs.
If you're doing something involving enough material for a freighter run every 2 days I'm sure you can afford a new one.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:59:00 -
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Ask for a sr GM.
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2011.02.02 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: XenosisReaper
Originally by: zz01shagsme
Originally by: XenosisReaper
Explaining instead of whining might be useful.
I'm going to take a few guesses.
1) You autopiloted through an incursion constellation and died.
2) You autopiloted through a low sec system and died.
3) You autopiloted through a gate camp and died.
4) You autopiloted through a null sec system and died.
5) You autopiloted and died.
6) Your autopilot had a never before seen or encountered catastrophic failure through no fault of your own and... you died.
Which was it?
Autopilot 10 jumps in a freigher every alternate day no need to go to low sec but ended up in it after i patched my client.
No. you didn't. You put the wrong destination in, maybe you were tired/drunk/high/stupid.
Nobody else has reported this issue and if it were a patch issue everybody would be cramming the general board with cries of DOOOOOOOM.
Refresh your cache, and man up. The autopilot is client side anyway so they won't have any logs.
If you're doing something involving enough material for a freighter run every 2 days I'm sure you can afford a new one.
Do tell me sir seeing you have a crystal ball - how wrong can you be typing Jita into autpilot? and considering the day before the patch i ran from jita to Dodixie and dont hit low sec how I ended up in low sec system on my way to jita.
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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc.
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.02.02 21:03:00 -
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Link killmail. Or name of system you were in, how did you die?
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Ervol Libra
Amarr
Pinky and the Brain corp
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Posted - 2011.02.02 22:00:00 -
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They don't have logs.
And yeah even if you send screenshots of client defects you still get the same bull**** message.
Its not worth even filling a petition
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DeliciousHamBeast
Caldari
Ignoble Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.02.02 22:18:00 -
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If your autopilot is set to "shortest route" instead of safest it can change between an all-highsec route and a route with some lowsec depending on gate queues etc. So if the autopilot can find two routes that get you to jita in 10 jumps it may decide the one with lowsec is shortest today, but choose highsec-only most of the time.
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.02.02 22:36:00 -
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yeah autopilot can be pretty strange sometimes
like giving you 2 differents routes on 2 alts going at the same place at the same time on the same ship
even had to avoid some system cause he always choose to travel though this one in one sense while he never do it on the other sense, and i hate this system.
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Nypheas Azurai
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Posted - 2011.02.03 08:06:00 -
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OP, standard response to any bug CCP encounters, even verified once beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Because CCP GM's expect that there's going to be a log entry like this:
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THIS IS A BUG. RIGHT HERE YES< IT"S A BUG, UNDENIABLE 100% BUG, NO NEED TO USE YOUR SKILLS OF INFERENCE TO DEDUCE ANYTHING>
Now replace all GM's with an automated database look-up. 200% more effective at solving problems.
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2011.02.03 08:28:00 -
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Do tell me sir seeing you have a crystal ball - how wrong can you be typing Jita into autpilot? and considering the day before the patch i ran from jita to Dodixie and dont hit low sec how I ended up in low sec system on my way to jita.
jita to dodixie - 15 jumps in highsec only, 12 with shortest route. shortest route takes you through Tama plus 3 other lowsec systems.
I bet you dollars to donuts you lost your ship in Tama.
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.02.03 08:40:00 -
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No content, thread locked.
Spitfire
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