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Theia Nine	Posted - 2011.02.02 23:52:00 - [1] Edited by: Theia Nine on 02/02/2011 23:53:52 Hello All. Does any of you have a working setup for doing Sanctums in an Ishtar? (a fitting you've actually tried). Best Regards. Theia NB: No 1B fits please :P
Gaaldarax	Posted - 2011.02.03 00:23:00 - [2] Edited by: Gaaldarax on 03/02/2011 00:24:46 With this fit you get a 817 DPS tank vs Guristas which is plenty for Sanctums, 538 DPS with Garde II at 42km. No more CPU for anything else to be on the high slots so its pretty much fit whatever can fit. [Ishtar, 538 DPS 42km] Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Small Tractor Beam I Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Garde II x5 Ogre II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.02.03 01:51:00 - [3] The shield ishtar can tank more damage than an armoured ishtar Not sure about setup though
Admiral Chrom	Posted - 2011.02.03 04:41:00 - [4] Edited by: Admiral Chrom on 03/02/2011 04:41:16 This is what I use, and it rocks.. with my skills i get 1189 passive defense which allows me to let the drones damage and i just fly around and salvage. With my skills i get 469 dps with Ogre II's. [Ishtar, sanctums] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II 10MN Afterburner II Salvager I Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Drone Link Augmentor I Civilian Gatling Railgun, Civilian Railgun Charge [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Ogre II x5 Garde II x5
Cpl Punnishment Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.02.03 09:25:00 - [5] Edited by: Cpl Punnishment on 03/02/2011 09:29:45 Good choice of ship btw. I find that armor ishtar works well and allows you to use Omni Tracking links and fitting flexibility all with simple T2 fittings. Lows= 2 primary / 1 secondary hardners, T2 MAR, Cap Power Relay Mids= 2 Omni Directional Tracking Links, 2 Cap Rechargers, Meta 4 AB Highs= (to taste) suggest using [1 Remote Armor Rep Meta 4] to keep sentries happy. And what ever else you want / can fit. Its not too important. Rigs= 2 Medium Sentry Drone Damage Augmentors Then, drone load out. I run 2 sets of Sentries. Usually I run Garde IIs for close stuff, under 45 km or so, and a set of sentries for better range that have the right damage type. Its nice to have lights when frigs get under your sentries, as well of a set of ECM drones for unanounced company. I warp in at range, drop sentries, kill frigs>cruisers>then BS. Tank is hardly an issue. Most of the time you don't even need to move. If you start to take more damage, just orbit one of your sentries at about 3K and that should take the heat off you. YOu can run everything cap stable, except the Remote Rep. (use as needed) As you can see, nothing crazy, all T2 or Meta 4, A consistant PVE machine that does not need gobs of ammo. Also sentries keep on shooting even if you get damped and loose lock. Good luck. C.P. **Edit= forgot to add rigs
KWyz	Posted - 2011.02.03 10:41:00 - [6] Let me just take a moment and appreciate this little ship. Ishtar, PVE FTW, and the only tank I trust for those pesky Mazes.
Greenl55	Posted - 2011.02.10 16:24:00 - [7] Rat in the ishtar don't take a sanctum from your carrier pilots or bs pilots you do them way way too slow and if you insist on doing anomes stay in hubs and havens.
Michael McDonald	Posted - 2011.02.10 17:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Greenl55 Rat in the ishtar don't take a sanctum from your carrier pilots or bs pilots you do them way way too slow and if you insist on doing anomes stay in hubs and havens. No... Carrier Pilots = Havens. Super Carrier Pilots = Sanctums. duh.
Greenl55	Posted - 2011.02.10 17:45:00 - [9] Originally by: Michael McDonald Originally by: Greenl55 Rat in the ishtar don't take a sanctum from your carrier pilots or bs pilots you do them way way too slow and if you insist on doing anomes stay in hubs and havens. No... Carrier Pilots = Havens. Super Carrier Pilots = Sanctums. duh. Lets just say this if your not making 20-30 mill/20min solo in a sanctum dont mess with it unless you are the only person in your system that want to do the anoms. also if you are a salvage kill everything then bm a wreck and come back a few minutes later. if you salvage in the anom before the stuffs disappear you are holding up the next anom from spawning and potentially ****ing everyone off.
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions	Posted - 2011.02.10 20:48:00 - [10] Footoo Rama's plex Ishtar. Pretty much all you need.
FlameGlow Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.10 21:56:00 - [11] If you're talking guristas sanctums then it's simple sentry rigs + 2 omnilinks, target painter and cap regeneration to permarun AB + MAR Drop gardes and orbit them, profit Just paint and kill small things first, battleships barely do any damage Originally by: CCP Manifest Imploding servers are not a part of our business model.
Sonya Kranz	Posted - 2011.02.10 22:29:00 - [12] [Ishtar, ratting Armor Thermic Hardener II Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener Armor Kinetic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Capacitor Power Relay II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Sensor Booster II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Drone Link Augmentor I Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Warden II x5 Garde II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 This is the setup i currently use for serpentis, range with wardens up to 97 kilometers for me (100 with max skills) Its enough tank for sanctums if you keep moving a bit, orbit your sentries for example.
Meatypopsicle	Posted - 2011.02.10 23:29:00 - [13] [Guristas] 2x Shadow Serp Kinetic Hardener 1x Shadow Serp Thermic Hardener 1x DC II 1x MAR II 1x 10MN AB 2x Omni Tracking Link 1x Large Peroxide Cap Battery 1x Cap Recharger II 1x Probe Launcher 1x Salvager 3x 150mm Auto cannon (useful for small rats while you are plugging the BS with sentries) 2x Medium Sentry Dmg Augmentor I The Armor reps are about 15m each. Having the AB drops your incoming dmg by half and allows you to tank an 8/10 Plex if you happen to scan one. Cap stable with AB on.
Meridius Dex Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.02.11 01:03:00 - [14] Edited by: Meridius Dex on 11/02/2011 01:04:54 If you don't have T2 sentry drones skilled up yet, this is what I have been using: [Ishtar, Guristas 0.0 combat plexer] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Prototype Cloaking Device I Salvager I Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Wasp II x5 Vespa EC-600 x10 Wasp II x5 Warrior II x5 It's actually a bit too much tank at 1334 dps vs Guristas. A corpmate recommended using DNC mods in the mids, as the thing which takes the most time running the plexes (and being in harm's way) is the time it takes heavy drones to move from target to target. So, this costs a bit more but provides your heavy drones with 50% more MWD speed (1800 m/s vs 1200): [Ishtar, G***s Plexer] Medium Armor Repairer II Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener 10MN Afterburner II Large Capacitor Battery II Cap Recharger II Drone Navigation Computer I Drone Navigation Computer I 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Salvager I Prototype Cloaking Device I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Wasp II x5 Vespa EC-600 x10 Wasp II x5 Warrior II x5 - Dex -
Mister Normal Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.02.11 02:14:00 - [15] [Ishtar, New Setup 1] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Heat Dissipation Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Medium Core Defence Field Purger II Garde II x5 Can tank about 1100 dps, about 500 DPS output
Meatypopsicle	Posted - 2011.02.11 22:50:00 - [16] Shield setups look good on paper - and with the right setup you can make it completely passive to do any plex which involves a lot of neuting but they have three issues: 1) LSE's ballon your sig radius so you take more dmg from BS's. 2) Most setups require one or both rig slots to have shield mods so you loose a lot of sentry damage which means less isk/hour. 3) Most setups don't leave room for an AB which would half the BS damage you take. So an AB armor fit which tanks 600dps in EFT is actually better (by some margin) than a shield fit tanking 1k+ EFT dps. The only time you need to go shield is if you need a completely passive tank to defeat neuting situations.
Le Verrier	Posted - 2011.02.11 23:06:00 - [17] If you want a shield fit train Caldari Cruiser 3 and buy a Gila.
Meatypopsicle	Posted - 2011.02.11 23:57:00 - [18] Edited by: Meatypopsicle on 11/02/2011 23:58:22 Originally by: Le Verrier If you want a shield fit train Caldari Cruiser 3 and buy a Gila. vs Guristas Ishtar passive shield fit can go 1500dps+ tank using only tech 2. Gila tops out at 1050dps tanked. The ratio is about the same vs Serpentis.
StryP1	Posted - 2011.02.13 18:23:00 - [19] 48,045 EHP 636 DPS Guristas tank 538 DPS using Garde IIs Cap stable with the repper on. If you orbit a drone, damage received is insignificant. This is a skill intensive fit, but uses no ammo and pulls in 12-15 million/20 mins doing sanctums. The 4th Omni is arguably something that could be swapped for something useful like a Target Painter, but we use it for the increased tracking to take out small stuff that spawns close to us in the sanctum and hence the Fed Navy Garde's. Try the fit with standard Omni's and test before you shell out for faction one's. This fit solo's all plex's save 10/10s, for which you tank differently using the same rigs and a logi. [Ishtar, Gurista Ishtar] Sisters Core Probe Launcher (RSS Core Scanner Probe) 4x Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Cap Recharger II 2x Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Capacitor Power Relay II 2x Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I 5x Garde II 5x Federation Navy Garde 5x Hornet EC-300 5x Vespa EC-600 7x Warrior II
Aamrr	Posted - 2011.02.13 18:51:00 - [20] Pretty much the maximum efficiency you'll get from this ship. All T1/T2 fit, speed tank, cap stable, with 667 tank. Drop your sentries and orbit. Use the guns to pick off frigs so your sentries can keep doing their job. [Ishtar, Ratting] 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M [Empty High slot] Core Probe Launcher I 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Warden II x5 Garde II x5 Warrior II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Hammerhead II x5
SFX Bladerunner Minmatar Aperture Science inc.	Posted - 2011.02.13 22:48:00 - [21] Originally by: Headerman The shield ishtar can tank more damage than an armoured ishtar Not sure about setup though Just be sure to realise that there is a big difference when their EFT tanks and ACTUAL PVE PLEXING tanks are compared. shield ishtar will tank more than an armour one in EFT, but in reality the story varies. Fact of the matter is that the shield one is fine for plexes up to a certain size. Being hit by EM torpedoes sure hurts a whole lot less in an armour ishtar.. (figuratively speaking ofc) __________________________________________________ History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever..
I likegirls Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.14 01:26:00 - [22] 3x220mm autocannons 1x Drone Link Augmentor 1x Core Probe Launcher 1x10mn Afterburner 1xOmnidirectional Tracking Link I 3xCap Rechargers 1xDark Blood Medium Armor Repairer 2xDark Blood Armor Kinetic Hardener 2xDark Blood Armor Thermic Hardener 2xSentry Drone rigs The fit I have on mine. I have never actually used it to rat, but it is sitting in my hangar. I have shot at it with an alt and the tank is nice :)
CrazyTaco	Posted - 2011.02.14 01:51:00 - [23] not sure but i think it's not possible to kill rats fast enough in an ishtar to justify doing sanctums over havens. tbh let the sanctums to the thanny's
Elize Phearson	Posted - 2011.02.14 07:03:00 - [24] Edited by: Elize Phearson on 14/02/2011 07:03:27 SHIELD ishtar vs angel/guristas sanctums = WIN !!!
Endo Scrote Amarr JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.02.15 11:22:00 - [25] @ leaving all the Sanctums and Havens to carrier pilots
Vihura	Posted - 2011.02.15 12:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Meatypopsicle Edited by: Meatypopsicle on 11/02/2011 23:58:22 Originally by: Le Verrier If you want a shield fit train Caldari Cruiser 3 and buy a Gila. vs Guristas Ishtar passive shield fit can go 1500dps+ tank using only tech 2. Gila tops out at 1050dps tanked. The ratio is about the same vs Serpentis. LoL Gila 1050 dps ? more like 2000dps+ 100% passve [Gila, Guristas] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Meatypopsicle	Posted - 2011.02.15 19:36:00 - [27] Edited by: Meatypopsicle on 15/02/2011 19:37:01 Originally by: Vihura LoL Gila 1050 dps ? more like 2000dps+ 100% passve Using Level V char and taking out the AB (which halves your real world tank) to use your fit gives me 1246 dps vs guristas for Gila and 1973 for ishtar. So the question is what dmg profile are you using for your "Guristas" tank (I'm using 86% kinetic and 14% Thermic), what implants and what fleet bonuses?

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