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Posted - 2005.01.27 18:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Sorja[/quote
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When I began playing Eve, I was with 4 friends, that was last october.
Now I have plenty of cash, big ships, labslot, BPOs and really having a good time in Eve with a PvP corp, not worrying about loosing even a BS.
My friends don't.
Not that they are stupid, but they don't play the game the same way.
They take the slow path, play it their way and have fun.
They are screwed with this change. Totally screwed.
You want them out of the game because they are not playing Eve the 'productive' way ? How exactly would it bother you that they have their corp hangar, labslots and factories ?
I'll tell you: you benefit from them !
They mine and produce the stuff you eventualy buy, and they pay their monthly fee to give CCP the cash to improve Eve.
Why in hell do so many people feel the need to make fun of people (if not purely insulting them) when someone posts he got killed, scammed or lost their gear or wealth to human errors ?
Everybody has to face its errors, or inefficiencies, but in the name of the Lord, we all have the responsability to make Eve, including the boards, a nice place to live in, where we all have fun together.
Kill ships, pod people, whatever, but respect them.
Thank you.
Well the point she's making it stood before labs and offices cost nothing and required next to no skill to get. The result was that the lucky few who happened to stumble upon some could get get rich really quick without actually doing anything while others who weren't lucky (or casual players) could search for months or even years without finding one. Just like in a real regulated real estate market those lucky who is in the system benefit immensly - benefits which the majority who isn't in the system are paying for. While some are researching battleships to ridicilous me-levels just to compete with the next guy others can't get one to do one bpo to lvl 5 (similar problems abound with offices). And just like in the real world it gives rise to a big black market that further enhances the problem and makes it a scamfeast. Add also to this that you can, with words from a devchat during the fall, "virtually print your own isk" by copying without investing any time and just money for the bpo that you're 100% sure to get back eventually and I don't see how this can be called by any rhyme or reason "fair".
Now the devs are making all this go away in a two-pronged assault where the first is to make rents increase so scammers, people with excessive amounts of labs etc. either have to give up some of theirs to people who haven't got any or can use them for actually researching useful things, or pay dearly for the pleasure of keeping them. The second thing is introducing a moving supply so if you want labs bad enough you can always build a pos with them. And though not all corps can afford the big ones who do will leave labs in the npc-stations open for those smaller ones. And no the big ones won't keep those if the rent is bigger then what they're making on them - which it will be eventually. (and here's a further balance-issue - why should npc-labs be free when running pos-labs aren't?)
So to sum it up - though pos-labs are unfortunately delayed, CCP has here presented a solution that actually solves all those problems above long-term and adapts to how people play without them having to intervene all the time. AND adds the gameplay element of POS-ownership. And now those who're already in the system and making millions out of it comes in here and cries that it will ruin the game because they're not given free isk-handouts anymore???! Give me a break will you.
And yes like your friends I started in August and are working the slow and peaceful way up by actually researching ME-levels for things I then produce in the labs I've been lucky to find. So yes I'm very much in the system myself and this hurts my wallet but it makes for a better game. As for Rollindutchmaster's post - ) but in essence she hit the head of the nail.
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