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Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:35:00 - [1] Would you please post a list of your main character and any alts you use?
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:47:00 - [2] How would you describe your relationship with Controlled Chaos?
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:54:00 - [3] Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 05/02/2011 17:50:22 Originally by: Kalrand How would you describe your relationship with Controlled Chaos? I have no relationship with said alliance. How would you describe your relationship with Archangel17?
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.05 18:06:00 - [4] Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Originally by: Kalrand Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 05/02/2011 17:50:22 Originally by: Kalrand How would you describe your relationship with Controlled Chaos? I have no relationship with said alliance. How would you describe your relationship with Archangel17? I have no relationship with him. I assume your questions are in reference to this where it lists Archangel17 as an associate of mine. I was invited to fly in the system Decon with a real life friend of mine (not Archangel) and decided low-sec wasnt for me. I have no relationship with him and only participated in a fleet or 2 with him last month. Killboards, yes, that particular link, no. What did you do to earn your first 1.7b isk?
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.06 00:20:00 - [5] Originally by: Narusegawa Naru After a few evemails, I've decided to trust you with 100m towards your bond. Good luck! Wow. This is your first post since 2008. Welcome back.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.06 00:23:00 - [6] Originally by: reservent If Dethmourne decides not to invest or if there is any left over I'll cover 500m. And your first one ever. Welcome to MD.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.09 07:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane I did not make my position clear in our private conversations; I preferred a closeout of existing bond and a new creation to an expansion. I would like to withdraw my investment; this should by no means indicate a lack of confidence in OP, simply a lack of risk tolerance on my end in the increased risk presented by a bond expansion. I'm kind of surprised that a new-to-MD character trader was able to walk in here and raise 5 billion isk.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.10 00:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Can you please avoid posting things such as this that are both nonconstructive and have no basis. If you have any questions for me feel free to ask. The only thing I can do at the moment is refute your assumption that I am a scammer, obviously this solves nothing at this point. But please feel free to ask constructive questions regarding this situation. A better response would have been something along the lines of "I hope you won't get too mad when I quote this post when I announce repayment in a month". Doing the standard "GET OUT OF MY THREAD YOU TROLL" garbage only gets people angry.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.10 00:51:00 - [9] Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur If he has questions I will answer them, but he statement was unnecessary and nonconstructive. Market Discussion investment threads often live or die based on how the entrepreneur treats their critics.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.10 01:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Sorry if it seemed that way, as it was not my intention. Do either of you have any questions that I can address? After my first few questions, I've largely toned down my normal criticism, since I'm running a concurrent bond offering and don't want it to appear that I'm criticizing you to drive people over to my thread. Which started recently.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.10 02:24:00 - [11] Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Is it necessary to attempt to hijack my bond? Humor is not your strong suit, is it?
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.10 19:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane I did not make my position clear in our private conversations; I preferred a closeout of existing bond and a new creation to an expansion. I would like to withdraw my investment; this should by no means indicate a lack of confidence in OP, simply a lack of risk tolerance on my end in the increased risk presented by a bond expansion. Did you ever get this back?
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.10 20:10:00 - [13] Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur A proposed fix to this would be to for auditors to actually give a discounted audit on a characterÆs first offering. I was quoted 100m by Lord Arbalest when I launched the bond, something someone with 700m NAV isnÆt going to cough up, hence an excuse to avoid one. I'm just going to toss out there that I'll do a API fact-checking thing for people for free as long as I don't have to do any serious work. This is assuming you're a new poster.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.10 20:32:00 - [14] Originally by: Cyaxares II Edited by: Cyaxares II on 10/02/2011 20:25:14 Originally by: Two Shots This just lit up gs_isk and we're having a good laugh. Your gs_isk to MD real-time transcription service is certainly an interesting idea but imo it suffers from the flaw that if people would really want to know what's going on inside that channel they'd just be part of it. They're all watching this forum today because of my thread. Also, I mentioned that I thought this particular offering was an absolute and complete fraud. The conversation was about how some random character trader wandered in with a disposable alt and just slurped up billions, and that I was fully expecting to get raked over the coals for days on mine.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.10 21:04:00 - [15] Originally by: Cheque Please It's still a waste of time unless you have trusted people willing to do the audit. Most of the "trusted people" on MD know fully well how to trade, and therefore have billions of isk in their wallets. Why should they spend 10 hrs doing an audit for 50m unless they are masochists like VV? PS: I was denied funding by the MD Audit Fund I'll do an hours work for free if it makes the offers here a notch above "GIEV ISK!". VV's audits are trying to root out any possibly issue, that takes a ton of time, and more effort than will ever be worth a small bit of isk. The kinds of things I have been advocating are something less than that. "Does he have the skills he says he does" "does he have the assets he claims to have" and the like are all questions that can be answered easily, quickly, and raises the bar a bit higher than what we're getting these days.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.10 21:29:00 - [16] Originally by: Block Ukx Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur ... A proposed fix to this would be to for auditors to actually give a discounted audit on a characterÆs first offering. Oh yeah, that should have fixed everything! An audit would have stopped you from stealing the ISK. Those are very powerful auditors. Funny to hear a scammer recommending audits, when we all know audits can't prevent people for stealing your ISK. So do you have those assets or what?

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