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Tyburn Stannis
Caldari Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.06 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Eyup Mi'duck No comment from CCP yet on this?
Why should there be? This is a private matter, CCP don't ever discuss account details - and as per usual we have only been given one side of the story with no proof.
New character "mysteriously" recieves a huge bundle of ISK after a character transfer, what better way to hide RMT than to claim it was an error as part of the character trade, then when you get busted point to this thread as "evidence" that it was something else that you "already reported".
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.02.06 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Liang Nuren You've already filed a petition. Don't do anything until that's resolved.
-Liang
Once again you surprise me with a statement I wouldn't have expected from you.
I'm very curious what you would have expected me to say?
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
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San Severina
Minmatar One Point 0
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Posted - 2011.02.06 11:54:00 -
[33]
Just open a ticket, it's a GM matter obviously. __________________________________________________
No sympathy for the Devil! Always remember that....
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Musashi IV
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Posted - 2011.02.06 12:15:00 -
[34]
If you purchased the char legitimately keep the ISK until CCP tells you to send it back.
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Marco Ratters
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Posted - 2011.02.06 12:28:00 -
[35]
Send him twice the ISK back, thats how it's supposed to work
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.02.06 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Liang Nuren You've already filed a petition. Don't do anything until that's resolved.
-Liang
Once again you surprise me with a statement I wouldn't have expected from you.
I'm very curious what you would have expected me to say?
-Liang
Something along the lines of not bothering to game a system that CCP has shown pretty much zero tolerance for attempting to exploit in anyway shape or form.
I mean if they let even one semi-gray area mishap go through all you're doing is opening the floodgates for similar "scam but not really a scam" scenarios.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.06 13:12:00 -
[37]
Considering char transfers aren't allowed to contain any assets of value the isk should be returned, also read point 17 here.
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Kim Jong Lau
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Posted - 2011.02.06 13:23:00 -
[38]
Hold onto the ISK, contact CCP, explain the situation, they wont ban you if you explain in advance, wait to hear what they say.
To me the deal was done, so any ISK sent after that whether in error or not, doesnt need to be returned.
Its like if I sell 5 bill worth of items to a player, then send the ISK back to the player, why would CCP ban me?
Or in terms of GTC, if I sell a GTC for 700 mil then send the ISK back to the player, why would CCP ban me?
Besides CCP hasnĘt got time to ban people they are too busy working on incarna and the logs wont show anything anyway. - 0.0 will be all MINE! |
Michwich
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Posted - 2011.02.06 14:02:00 -
[39]
Send me the isk, Ill send you back double. This way you can go on and spend and if CCP comes after you, you will have enough to pay them back. Double. Quick.
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Tayonas
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Posted - 2011.02.06 14:28:00 -
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If you sent someone 4.5bn by accident or as part of a misunderstanding, would you want it back?
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Worpout
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Posted - 2011.02.06 14:42:00 -
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Would you people stop commenting on this thread now, i send the isk back to the guy because i think he used he's IRL money to buy plex and sell the plex for isk.
I also, deleted my GM ticket, so please stop commenting on this thread.
Thanks
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Kim Jong Lau
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Posted - 2011.02.06 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Worpout Would you people stop commenting on this thread now, i send the isk back to the guy because i think he used he's IRL money to buy plex and sell the plex for isk.
I also, deleted my GM ticket, so please stop commenting on this thread.
Thanks
YOU SENT IT BACK?! OMG
Im not a scammer or anything but if someone randomly sent me 4.5 bill I would just keep it - 0.0 will be all MINE! |
Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.02.06 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Worpout Would you people stop commenting on this thread now, i send the isk back to the guy because i think he used he's IRL money to buy plex and sell the plex for isk.
I also, deleted my GM ticket, so please stop commenting on this thread.
Thanks
Very good --------------------------------------
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Kreesis Akratos
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Posted - 2011.02.06 19:18:00 -
[44]
Sorry for bumping this thread in advance, but I just wanted to say that some of the people in this thread really disappoint me.
It's obvious that the guy who send him the ISK wanted to buy that character, so that was clearly a misunderstanding. By no means should one try to exploit this and keep the ISK, keep your scamming attitudes within the game. It's scarry what kind of excuses people here try to bring up in order to keep that ISK if they would've got it.
Seriously... *Face palm*
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Kitty McKitty
Gallente Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.02.06 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Worpout Would you people stop commenting on this thread now, i send the isk back to the guy because i think he used he's IRL money to buy plex and sell the plex for isk.
I also, deleted my GM ticket, so please stop commenting on this thread.
Thanks
Glad to see you made the right decision.
~~~
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.02.06 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane
Something along the lines of not bothering to game a system that CCP has shown pretty much zero tolerance for attempting to exploit in anyway shape or form.
I mean if they let even one semi-gray area mishap go through all you're doing is opening the floodgates for similar "scam but not really a scam" scenarios.
I meant what I said - don't do anything with the character or the ISK until the petition is resolved. There's a number of possible outcomes: - Files petition, sends ISK back, CCP says keep it (0% chance IMO) - Files petition, sends ISK back, CCP doesn't notice and takes more ISK and gives it to the other guy (20% chance) - Files petition, sends ISK back, loses character due to some error with the character trade. (50% chance)
Like I said, don't do anything with the character until the petition is resolved. There's no risk in letting it resolve naturally.
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
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Worpout
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Posted - 2011.02.06 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Something along the lines of not bothering to game a system that CCP has shown pretty much zero tolerance for attempting to exploit in anyway shape or form.
I mean if they let even one semi-gray area mishap go through all you're doing is opening the floodgates for similar "scam but not really a scam" scenarios.
I meant what I said - don't do anything with the character or the ISK until the petition is resolved. There's a number of possible outcomes: - Files petition, sends ISK back, CCP says keep it (0% chance IMO) - Files petition, sends ISK back, CCP doesn't notice and takes more ISK and gives it to the other guy (20% chance) - Files petition, sends ISK back, loses character due to some error with the character trade. (50% chance)
Like I said, don't do anything with the character until the petition is resolved. There's no risk in letting it resolve naturally.
-Liang
You DO realise that you persentage dont adds up to a 100%.. Right?
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EVEVERIFY Cashier
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Posted - 2011.02.06 21:44:00 -
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Looking at this, I would have orig said keep the isk till I read the sell thread. I don't think any of the 3 involved parties followed the intent of the character auction rules as neither of you posted your bids in that thread and the seller didn't announce a winner.
CCP should keep the character and the isk :)
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Jamaican Herbsman
I Love You Mary Jane
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Posted - 2011.02.06 22:12:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Worpout
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Something along the lines of not bothering to game a system that CCP has shown pretty much zero tolerance for attempting to exploit in anyway shape or form.
I mean if they let even one semi-gray area mishap go through all you're doing is opening the floodgates for similar "scam but not really a scam" scenarios.
I meant what I said - don't do anything with the character or the ISK until the petition is resolved. There's a number of possible outcomes: - Files petition, sends ISK back, CCP says keep it (0% chance IMO) - Files petition, sends ISK back, CCP doesn't notice and takes more ISK and gives it to the other guy (20% chance) - Files petition, sends ISK back, loses character due to some error with the character trade. (50% chance)
Like I said, don't do anything with the character until the petition is resolved. There's no risk in letting it resolve naturally.
-Liang
You DO realise that you persentage dont adds up to a 100%.. Right?
- Universe implodes ending all life and time (30% chance)
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Jora Starlight
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Posted - 2011.02.06 22:32:00 -
[50]
Imagine if CCP sanctioned the op to keep the money.
Then whats stopping a character seller and buyer from scamming a 3rd party in the future?
The op did the right thing.
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Krisis Akratos
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Posted - 2011.02.06 23:29:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Jora Starlight Imagine if CCP sanctioned the op to keep the money.
Then whats stopping a character seller and buyer from scamming a 3rd party in the future?
The op did the right thing.
Exactly
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Miss Wraith
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Posted - 2011.02.06 23:34:00 -
[52]
When it comes to character transfers I've understood that CCP does not tolerate grey area. I suggest sending the isk back and informing the individual that the character was already bought and transfered.
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Rule 17
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.02.07 00:03:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Mashie Saldana Considering char transfers aren't allowed to contain any assets of value the isk should be returned, also read point 17 here.
Another me?!!!?!
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.02.07 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Worpout You DO realise that you persentage dont adds up to a 100%.. Right?
Of course. I didn't enumerate all possible situations, and most importantly I was enumerating failure modes. Statistics is a great branch of math. ;-)
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.07 04:42:00 -
[55]
I before e, except after c.
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.02.07 08:02:00 -
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The proper action in such cases is to file a petition and let the GMs investigate. It might save you from massive headache in the future.
The issue seems to have been resolved, though, so I'm locking this topic.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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rootimus maximus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.02.07 08:38:00 -
[57]
In after the lock?
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.02.07 08:44:00 -
[58]
Originally by: CCP Spitfire I'm locking this topic.
..but not the thread. I guess that means we should talk about something else then?
How about cucumbers? - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
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