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Hot Vherokior
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Posted - 2011.02.16 00:30:00 -
[31]
Sansha Incursions for the win!!!
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Jypsie
Amarr
Pytheas search
Exodus Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 05:20:00 -
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I think it has to do with Incursions as well. Alot of high sec PVE players are doing Incursions, which means people that used to semi-afk through L4's all night long are now actually going and getting many more ships blown up versus the once in a blue moon crash-to-desktop losses they normally have happen.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.02.16 06:52:00 -
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I suspect the change in the Drone Regions exploration combat sites have something to do with the price increase too.
In the past you were able to warp to the location, smartbomb everything and then just pick up the drone alloys. CCP changed that. Now you need A LOT longer. Which means the minerals/hour income there drop considerably.
NPC kills in the drone regions are at cut down to 1/5 - according to Dotlan Evemaps statistics.
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.16 11:33:00 -
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Yeah but alloys weren't the main source of trit IMHO...
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.02.16 12:03:00 -
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Loving it... because I bought all my Trit stock before Xmas.
Thank you, Helicity ! 
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LTC Vuvovich
E-ON Technologies
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Posted - 2011.02.18 06:53:00 -
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Just a hunch here, but it prolly has more to do with anitipated demand for the mineral, prior to / during / and after which comes Hulkageddon.
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Dan Grobag
Caldari
French Empire Squad
Not Found.
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Posted - 2011.02.18 07:10:00 -
[37]
 Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Some idiot put a 50k price order to hide the graph and to hide the fall of the price.
So much for the bugged EvE client.
I hate that too.
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Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
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Posted - 2011.02.18 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tasko Pal
maybe a cabal, shadowy,
There is no cabal.
Do not talk about the cabal.
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Mira Merdan
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Posted - 2011.02.19 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dan Grobag
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Some idiot put a 50k price order to hide the graph and to hide the fall of the price.
So much for the bugged EvE client.
I hate that too.
Try using the Table instead of the Graph.
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.19 15:38:00 -
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Someone bought trit for 345 millions, the graph is borked...
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Fulbert.
Miner - Industrialist |
Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.19 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fulbert
Someone bought trit for 345 millions, the graph is borked...
Right click on the graph.
In the pop-up menu click "Hide Donchian Channel" and "Hide MIN/MAX" ... that should help.
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Mira Merdan
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Posted - 2011.03.08 10:39:00 -
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Did CCP really start to take action against bots again, or why hasn't the trit price gone back down i wonder.
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.08 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mira Merdan
Did CCP really start to take action against bots again, or why hasn't the trit price gone back down i wonder.
The trit price increase is actually demand-driven IMHO. People may lose ships during PVE activities now (Incursions), whereas L4 were almost risk-free. And big power blocks are now destroying supercapitals in insane quantities... and replace them as soon as possible. That's a huge stress for the trit price. I guess it won't decrease under 3.0 isk/unit.
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Industrialist - Casual Trader
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Mira Merdan
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Posted - 2011.03.08 11:39:00 -
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I remember that the price increased a bit after hulkageddon was announced (speculation probably) to the current levels.
I'm just not sure if the current price is still an aftermath of that, or if it is really a new equilibrium (for now).
I know people lost A LOT of ships when incursions came first out, but i don't know if they are still the shipkiller they were then.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.03.08 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 08/03/2011 11:51:57
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 08/03/2011 11:51:15
Originally by: Fulbert
Originally by: Mira Merdan
Did CCP really start to take action against bots again, or why hasn't the trit price gone back down i wonder.
The trit price increase is actually demand-driven IMHO. People may lose ships during PVE activities now (Incursions), whereas L4 were almost risk-free. And big power blocks are now destroying supercapitals in insane quantities... and replace them as soon as possible. That's a huge stress for the trit price. I guess it won't decrease under 3.0 isk/unit.
The trit price increase is due to many RMT bots having evolved and having moved to 0.0 ratting for more income than hi sec. Non RMT bots are still hi sec mining since they don't have to account for lower ROI. The RMTers need to launder the money with SCs / Titans "trading" and SCs / Titans require massive amounts of minerals. Plus SCs are the FOTM so the effect adds up.
If CCP would do anything against 0.0 bots you'd see them forced moving back to hi sec and crash low ends again.
Edit: on a related matter, when I roamed in 0.0, renting a system with harvestable moon, reasonable belts and PLEXES costed 250M a month. Now 1-2B is frequent and probably there's higher. Just to tell how things changed in the last 2 years.
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Burnharder
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Posted - 2011.03.08 11:51:00 -
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Hourly prices probably not a good reflection of market movements. It's "noise" (maybe someone made a big purchase).
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Confuzer
Volition Cult
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.03.08 13:14:00 -
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Well, I did thought about what impact changing the UI would have to UI based non-OCR macro's...
They would have to be recorded again = work = takes time plus some can't make new ones because they buy them somewhere.
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Mira Merdan
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Posted - 2011.03.08 17:06:00 -
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Woudn't a big movement of bots from empire space into 0.0 have the decline of highend prices as a consequence?
Trit price has risen slowly for about 3 Months until it hit 3.2 (When the op made this Post), in the same timeframe Pyerite and Isogen showed a similar movement.
If ship kills/overall demand would have been the sole reason all minerals should have increased in Price. As highends are rare in highsec i would think either mineral production for Lowends has gone down or someone does a good job to keep the price up.
The reasons for declining Lowend production i can think of would be:
- Decreased botting
- Lower price forces real miners to do other stuff
- Incursions(Should hit Highends equally if not harder)
I could imagina hulkageddon affected bots through more bots being reported and therefore banned, but that seems to be a bit too simple.
I'm unsure how much isk someone would need to manipulate the Mineral market in this manner but i don't doubt that it is doable. I guess its wait and see for now.
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